The lies of Trump refuted by evidence......

[nat4900]

There's NO reality that would ever sway a Trump cult member from blindly following the bullshit spewed by Trump last night.......after all, "blind faith" IS exactly what is expected of cult members.......But, for others:

• Since the yer 2000, illegal immigration is down by EIGHTY percent

• The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in this country because of overstaying their visas....which they originally given LEGALLY.

• Would be terrorists or "suspected" immigrants with possible ties to terrorism are usually stopped at airports....or at the Canadian border.

• Crimes committed by illegal immigrants....as regrettable as such crimes may be......PALE in number to the crimes committed by white supremacists or nut cases allowed to own assault weapons

• Drugs do NOT flow in on the backs of illegal immigrants......Evidence shows that such shipment of drugs come through legal ports of entry...through tunnels....remote airstrips....and through drones.

Sanity would dictate that NO damn wall would address any of the above....EXCEPT for the real fact that without a wall, Trump's chances for re-election are about the same as Melania's.

 

[Oddball]

^^^^^
Needs a hobby.

 

[Thinker101]

There's NO reality that would ever sway a Trump cult member from blindly following the bullshit spewed by Trump last night.......after all, "blind faith" IS exactly what is expected of cult members.......But, for others:

• Since the yer 2000, illegal immigration is down by EIGHTY percent

• The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in this country because of overstaying their visas....which they originally given LEGALLY.

• Would be terrorists or "suspected" immigrants with possible ties to terrorism are usually stopped at airports....or at the Canadian border.

• Crimes committed by illegal immigrants....as regrettable as such crimes may be......PALE in number to the crimes committed by white supremacists or nut cases allowed to own assault weapons

• Drugs do NOT flow in on the backs of illegal immigrants......Evidence shows that such shipment of drugs come through legal ports of entry...through tunnels....remote airstrips....and through drones.

Sanity would dictate that NO damn wall would address any of the above....EXCEPT for the real fact that without a wall, Trump's chances for re-election are about the same as Melania's.

And your evidence doesn't have a link?

 

[kyzr]

Stop with the bullshit already. Drugs come into the US by many routes. Illegals come into the US by many routes. The bottom line is that the democrats all voted for the border wall in 2006, Obama, Hillary, Schumer, et.al. So to be against a wall now is nothing more than hypocrisy. The Border Patrol wants the wall, they are the experts putting their lives on the line every day. The dems wisely did not dispute the DHS experts claim.
Fact-check: Did top Democrats vote for a border wall in 2006

We spend $56b in foreign aid every year. To spend $5.6b on a needed wall is essential

 

[kyzr]

There's NO reality that would ever sway a Trump cult member from blindly following the bullshit spewed by Trump last night.......after all, "blind faith" IS exactly what is expected of cult members.......But, for others:

• Since the yer 2000, illegal immigration is down by EIGHTY percent

• The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in this country because of overstaying their visas....which they originally given LEGALLY.

• Would be terrorists or "suspected" immigrants with possible ties to terrorism are usually stopped at airports....or at the Canadian border.

• Crimes committed by illegal immigrants....as regrettable as such crimes may be......PALE in number to the crimes committed by white supremacists or nut cases allowed to own assault weapons

• Drugs do NOT flow in on the backs of illegal immigrants......Evidence shows that such shipment of drugs come through legal ports of entry...through tunnels....remote airstrips....and through drones.

Sanity would dictate that NO damn wall would address any of the above....EXCEPT for the real fact that without a wall, Trump's chances for re-election are about the same as Melania's.

And your evidence doesn't have a link?

I have tons of graphs and charts ready to dump all over his bullshit.

 

[Valerie]

even fox news is starting to GET REAL with teflon don.



Donald Trump's Border Speech Gets A Savage Instant Fact-Check On Fox News


After Trump said that “innocent people” are being “horribly victimized” by immigrants who commit crimes, Smith quickly added perspective.

“The government’s statistics show that there is less violent crime by the undocumented immigrant population than by the general population,” he said.

Trump also argued for his wall by saying that immigrants carry illegal drugs across the border, but Smith pointed out that a wall wouldn’t make much difference there.

“Government statistics show much of the heroin actually comes not over the unguarded border but through ports of call,” he said.



Smith continued:

“He talks about undocumented crossings over the past months. In fact, the number of undocumented crossings over the southern border has been steadily down over the last 10 years and the government reports that there is more outward traffic than inward traffic.”




Donald Trump's Border Speech Gets A Savage Instant Fact-Check On Fox News

 

[Papageorgio]

There's NO reality that would ever sway a Trump cult member from blindly following the bullshit spewed by Trump last night.......after all, "blind faith" IS exactly what is expected of cult members.......But, for others:

• Since the yer 2000, illegal immigration is down by EIGHTY percent

• The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in this country because of overstaying their visas....which they originally given LEGALLY.

• Would be terrorists or "suspected" immigrants with possible ties to terrorism are usually stopped at airports....or at the Canadian border.

• Crimes committed by illegal immigrants....as regrettable as such crimes may be......PALE in number to the crimes committed by white supremacists or nut cases allowed to own assault weapons

• Drugs do NOT flow in on the backs of illegal immigrants......Evidence shows that such shipment of drugs come through legal ports of entry...through tunnels....remote airstrips....and through drones.

Sanity would dictate that NO damn wall would address any of the above....EXCEPT for the real fact that without a wall, Trump's chances for re-election are about the same as Melania's.

do you have a link to the facts presented by a reliable source and not a left wing media propaganda site?

 

[nat4900]

And your evidence doesn't have a link?

Links by me would do NOTHING to sway the half brains of Trump cultists...like you.

Were you not a Trump cult member, you would have accessed the various reports from such government departments as CBP, DEA, etc..

 

[SNAFUBARIFIC]

There's NO reality that would ever sway a Trump cult member from blindly following the bullshit spewed by Trump last night.......after all, "blind faith" IS exactly what is expected of cult members.......But, for others:

• Since the yer 2000, illegal immigration is down by EIGHTY percent

• The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in this country because of overstaying their visas....which they originally given LEGALLY.

• Would be terrorists or "suspected" immigrants with possible ties to terrorism are usually stopped at airports....or at the Canadian border.

• Crimes committed by illegal immigrants....as regrettable as such crimes may be......PALE in number to the crimes committed by white supremacists or nut cases allowed to own assault weapons

• Drugs do NOT flow in on the backs of illegal immigrants......Evidence shows that such shipment of drugs come through legal ports of entry...through tunnels....remote airstrips....and through drones.

Sanity would dictate that NO damn wall would address any of the above....EXCEPT for the real fact that without a wall, Trump's chances for re-election are about the same as Melania's.

I'll bet you bought into Obummer's "Hope & Change" nonsense....hook....line....and sinker.

People who live in glass houses....

 

[g5000]

It's called confirmation bias. Every time an illegal or a Muslim does a bad thing, the usual right wing propaganda outlets harp the shit out of it.

Any time an AR-15 is used in a crime, the left wing propaganda outlets harp the shit out of it.

When he was a Democrat, P. T. Trump parroted the far left talking points. Then one day he realized right wing rubes were easier to hoax, and so now he parrots the far right talking points.


As for drugs, the quantity coming in is way more than can be carried by humans, no matter how big their cantaloupe calves are. It comes in by trucks, planes, and ships.

 

[nat4900]

Stop with the bullshit already. Drugs come into the US by many routes. Illegals come into the US by many routes. The bottom line is that the democrats all voted for the border wall in 2006, Obama, Hillary, Schumer, et.al. So to be against a wall now is nothing more than hypocrisy. The Border Patrol wants the wall, they are the experts putting their lives on the line every day. The dems wisely did not dispute the DHS experts claim.
Fact-check: Did top Democrats vote for a border wall in 2006

We spend $56b in foreign aid every year. To spend $5.6b on a needed wall is essential

Thirteen years LATER........given the advances of smuggling, a fucking wall would do NOTHING.........As some republicans have honestly stated, a wall is a 19th century "solution" to a 21st century issues......

Keep dreaming of a wall.

 

[g5000]

There's NO reality that would ever sway a Trump cult member from blindly following the bullshit spewed by Trump last night.......after all, "blind faith" IS exactly what is expected of cult members.......But, for others:

• Since the yer 2000, illegal immigration is down by EIGHTY percent

• The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in this country because of overstaying their visas....which they originally given LEGALLY.

• Would be terrorists or "suspected" immigrants with possible ties to terrorism are usually stopped at airports....or at the Canadian border.

• Crimes committed by illegal immigrants....as regrettable as such crimes may be......PALE in number to the crimes committed by white supremacists or nut cases allowed to own assault weapons

• Drugs do NOT flow in on the backs of illegal immigrants......Evidence shows that such shipment of drugs come through legal ports of entry...through tunnels....remote airstrips....and through drones.

Sanity would dictate that NO damn wall would address any of the above....EXCEPT for the real fact that without a wall, Trump's chances for re-election are about the same as Melania's.

do you have a link to the facts presented by a reliable source and not a left wing media propaganda site?

It's funny no pseudocons ever ask Trump that question.

Like when he claimed five million illegals voted...

 

[nat4900]

I have tons of graphs and charts ready to dump all over his bullshit.

Go for it..........and stay away from fuckinmg "opinion" pieces from right wing acolytes looking to save Trump's fat, orange ass if a wall is not built.

 

[Valerie]

even fox news is starting to GET REAL with teflon don.



Donald Trump's Border Speech Gets A Savage Instant Fact-Check On Fox News



Fox News anchor Shepard Smith challenged many of Trump’s claims by using the government’s own numbers.

After Trump said that “innocent people” are being “horribly victimized” by immigrants who commit crimes, Smith quickly added perspective.

“The government’s statistics show that there is less violent crime by the undocumented immigrant population than by the general population,” he said.

Trump also argued for his wall by saying that immigrants carry illegal drugs across the border, but Smith pointed out that a wall wouldn’t make much difference there.

“Government statistics show much of the heroin actually comes not over the unguarded border but through ports of call,” he said.



Smith continued:

“He talks about undocumented crossings over the past months. In fact, the number of undocumented crossings over the southern border has been steadily down over the last 10 years and the government reports that there is more outward traffic than inward traffic.”




Donald Trump's Border Speech Gets A Savage Instant Fact-Check On Fox News

 

[Auld Phart]

^^^^^
Needs a hobby.

he has a hobby...

x number of threads bashing Trump daily.

 

[nat4900]

I'll bet you bought into Obummer's "Hope & Change" nonsense....hook....line....and sinker.

Morons like you should check out how Obama increased the number of border patrol agents.......Are idiots like you openly stating that they are useless???...........LOL

 

[kyzr]

No one disputed that the dems all voted for the wall in 2006, and that the Border Patrol says that the new wall is needed and is essential. The fact-checks vary depending upon the sources used. Shep Smith should move to MSNBC
Conviction data show illegal immigrants commit more crimes than native-born Americans: study

TX data TxDPS - Texas Criminal Alien Arrest Data

Illegals commit crimes at double the rate of native-born: Study

Should the crime statistics include only the border states? Should the native born crime rate exclude cities like Chicago where violent crime rates are not indicative of the population at large?

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics...

 

[nat4900]

he has a hobby...

x number of threads bashing Trump daily.

My posts actually a bit help this forum from becoming a right wing "circle-jerk" and keep individuals like you from being useless........You're welcome................LOL

 

[Flash]

There's NO reality that would ever sway a Trump cult member from blindly following the bullshit spewed by Trump last night.......after all, "blind faith" IS exactly what is expected of cult members.......But, for others:

• Since the yer 2000, illegal immigration is down by EIGHTY percent

• The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in this country because of overstaying their visas....which they originally given LEGALLY.

• Would be terrorists or "suspected" immigrants with possible ties to terrorism are usually stopped at airports....or at the Canadian border.

• Crimes committed by illegal immigrants....as regrettable as such crimes may be......PALE in number to the crimes committed by white supremacists or nut cases allowed to own assault weapons

• Drugs do NOT flow in on the backs of illegal immigrants......Evidence shows that such shipment of drugs come through legal ports of entry...through tunnels....remote airstrips....and through drones.

Sanity would dictate that NO damn wall would address any of the above....EXCEPT for the real fact that without a wall, Trump's chances for re-election are about the same as Melania's.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a serious mental illness, isn't it?

Speaking of lies I am still wondering where is my $2500 a year in health care cost that Obama said I would save because of Obamacare. Or why after giving a half billion dollars to Solyndra that the Solyndra solar cells aren't heating my house this winter like he said they would.

Don't get me started on Crooked Hillary's lies. Stupid Moon Bats like you voted for both that Obama lying piece of shit and that Crooked Hillary dishonest turd so you can take your TDS mental illness fake news about Trump and cram it up your ass.

 

[nat4900]

Illegals commit crimes at double the rate of native-born: Study

The cited article is from.......

Crime Prevention Research Center

RIGHT BIAS

.....and authored by John Richard Lott Jr. a gun rights advocate.