The Hidden Beginning

[PoliticalChic]

July 16th, 1945

1. First atomic bomb exploded near Alamogordo, New Mexico
The United States tested the first atomic bomb this day in 1945 near Alamogordo, New Mexico, and the following month dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan, hastening the end of World War II.
Britannica.com


It ended the war in the Pacific, and I would like to think that, after such a weapon served its purpose, it would have been put on the shelf, it nuclear weapons no longer be needed.
Similar to Lincoln ignoring the Constitution only until winning the war.

“So I’m making use of a Clete Purcel procedure here, which is, when the rules start working for the lowlifes, get a new set of rules.”
James Lee Burke



2. But it was not to be. Franklin Roosevelt shared the weapon with his BFF, the homicidal maniac Stalin.

US Army Maj. George Racey Jordan was a Lend-Lease 'expediter' who couldn't understand the volume or priority nature of the shipments to the USSR....including 'secret cargo' hidden under 'diplomatic immunity.'
. In his capacity, he worked closely with Soviet chief, Col. Anatole Kotikov. With them at their apartment, he noticed Kotikov's wife-secretary pull her huband's "Experimental Chemicals" dossier from "a hiding place under the mattress, while her husband was pulling on his handsome boots of black leather." Jordan, "From Major Jordan's Diaries, " p.47

a. In the file was a list of everything necessary to produce a 'brand-new and experimental atomic pile, courtesy of Lend-Lease." West, Op. Cit.

b.

c. "... he was instructed by the White House and State Department to deliver parts for the atomic bomb to the Soviets – at the same time the nation was worried about Russia stealing A-bomb secrets. At first, Congress did not believe him, but his diary filled with dates, shipping manifestos, and names of pilots who flew the missions,..." Major George Jordan

In Jordan's book is a near-complete list of Soviet Lend-Lease material



3. It is clear today, based on archival evidence, unearthed by researchers in Russia and released in the United States, that... "Absent an atomic bomb, Stalin would not have released Pyongyang's army to conquer the entire Korean peninsula. Confident that his possession of atomic weapons neutralized America's strategic advantage, Stalin was emboldened to unleash war in Korea in 1950." Haynes, Klehr, and
Vassiliev, "Spies: The Rise and Fall of the KGB in America," p. 143, 545. And Romerstein and Breindel,"The Venona Secrets," p. xv, 253.

 

[JoeB131]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

 

[Desperado]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

and because Franklin Roosevelt was a socialist

 

[JoeB131]

and because Franklin Roosevelt was a socialist

And that's a bad thing, why? Frankly, I'm looking at capitalism right now and for most people, it's a shit sandwich.

 

[pknopp]

and because Franklin Roosevelt was a socialist

And that's a bad thing, why? Frankly, I'm looking at capitalism right now and for most people, it's a shit sandwich.

To be fair, we don't really practice capitalism. There must be a reason why no one does.

But yeah back to the topic, wouldn't it have been cool if we could drop nukes every time a country did something we didn't like? That would be cool. When we got wind of them creating their own KABOOM, destroy everything. We would be so loved.

 

[beautress]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

You're lying, but you may not know it. Your party is feeding you their shit and you're eating it. I actually remember my parents discussing the events you just eliminated from your conscience, except that Americans thought ending the war-making machines of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was better than the Japanese/German alliance ridding themselves of our West Coast and moving onward and eastward to the leadership area in Washington DC as their ultimate goal. Hitler was getting beaten by the Allies, but they had many German Nazi operatives in their ally, Japan in order to sack America that sacked Hitler's regime of nutcase Nazis. We beat them through the will of God who loved what America was --a true friend to Great Britain and free people in Europe who'd been assaulted by Hitler's henchmen, and in particularly were set on genocide of the Jewish people who scrimped, saved, and flourished in spite of being the boot scrapers of hateful seekers of something-for-nothing Nazi masterminds of mankind's destruction to even the score of WWI against them.

Someday you will stop buying the farm, except you seem to be profiting from the fits of the Democrat something-for-nothing Party. When and if they ever get total power they crave, they will simply become the little Hitlers they act like.

 

[pknopp]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

You're lying, but you may not know it. Your party is feeding you their shit and you're eating it. I actually remember my parents discussing the events you just eliminated from your conscience, except that Americans thought ending the war-making machines of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was better than the Japanese/German alliance ridding themselves of our West Coast and moving onward and eastward to the leadership area in Washington DC as their ultimate goal. Hitler was getting beaten by the Allies, but they had many German Nazi operatives in their ally, Japan in order to sack America that sacked Hitler's regime of nutcase Nazis. We beat them through the will of God who loved what America was --a true friend to Great Britain and free people in Europe who'd been assaulted by Hitler's henchmen, and in particularly were set on genocide of the Jewish people who scrimped, saved, and flourished in spite of being the boot scrapers of hateful seekers of something-for-nothing Nazi masterminds of mankind's destruction to even the score of WWI against them.

Someday you will stop buying the farm, except you seem to be profiting from the fits of the Democrat something-for-nothing Party. When and if they ever get total power they crave, they will simply become the little Hitlers they act like.

In 2008 the Democrats did have the power. What we got was Obamacare. Hardly what we needed and IMO a failure but hardly "Hitler like".

 

[Desperado]

and because Franklin Roosevelt was a socialist

And that's a bad thing, why? Frankly, I'm looking at capitalism right now and for most people, it's a shit sandwich.

To be fair, we don't really practice capitalism. There must be a reason why no one does.

But yeah back to the topic, wouldn't it have been cool if we could drop nukes every time a country did something we didn't like? That would be cool. When we got wind of them creating their own KABOOM, destroy everything. We would be so loved.

Whatever turns you on dude... But what you think is cool is really sick

 

[pknopp]

and because Franklin Roosevelt was a socialist

And that's a bad thing, why? Frankly, I'm looking at capitalism right now and for most people, it's a shit sandwich.

To be fair, we don't really practice capitalism. There must be a reason why no one does.

But yeah back to the topic, wouldn't it have been cool if we could drop nukes every time a country did something we didn't like? That would be cool. When we got wind of them creating their own KABOOM, destroy everything. We would be so loved.

Whatever turns you on dude... But what you think is cool is really sick

Sarcasm.

 

[rightwinger]

FDR did not have a bomb to share

We did not have a working bomb until three months after FDR died.

 

[PoliticalChic]

and because Franklin Roosevelt was a socialist

And that's a bad thing, why? Frankly, I'm looking at capitalism right now and for most people, it's a shit sandwich.

To be fair, we don't really practice capitalism. There must be a reason why no one does.

But yeah back to the topic, wouldn't it have been cool if we could drop nukes every time a country did something we didn't like? That would be cool. When we got wind of them creating their own KABOOM, destroy everything. We would be so loved.

"...wouldn't it have been cool if we could drop nukes every time a country did something we didn't like?"

Spoken like a true Nazi.


Only a hater of America, one who denies the heritage and humanity of this nation, could have posted that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

You're lying, but you may not know it. Your party is feeding you their shit and you're eating it. I actually remember my parents discussing the events you just eliminated from your conscience, except that Americans thought ending the war-making machines of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was better than the Japanese/German alliance ridding themselves of our West Coast and moving onward and eastward to the leadership area in Washington DC as their ultimate goal. Hitler was getting beaten by the Allies, but they had many German Nazi operatives in their ally, Japan in order to sack America that sacked Hitler's regime of nutcase Nazis. We beat them through the will of God who loved what America was --a true friend to Great Britain and free people in Europe who'd been assaulted by Hitler's henchmen, and in particularly were set on genocide of the Jewish people who scrimped, saved, and flourished in spite of being the boot scrapers of hateful seekers of something-for-nothing Nazi masterminds of mankind's destruction to even the score of WWI against them.

Someday you will stop buying the farm, except you seem to be profiting from the fits of the Democrat something-for-nothing Party. When and if they ever get total power they crave, they will simply become the little Hitlers they act like.

No one who understood the geopolitical history of the last century could have written.... "And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team. "


There was no more burning hatred than that of the Germans for the Russians.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

You're lying, but you may not know it. Your party is feeding you their shit and you're eating it. I actually remember my parents discussing the events you just eliminated from your conscience, except that Americans thought ending the war-making machines of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was better than the Japanese/German alliance ridding themselves of our West Coast and moving onward and eastward to the leadership area in Washington DC as their ultimate goal. Hitler was getting beaten by the Allies, but they had many German Nazi operatives in their ally, Japan in order to sack America that sacked Hitler's regime of nutcase Nazis. We beat them through the will of God who loved what America was --a true friend to Great Britain and free people in Europe who'd been assaulted by Hitler's henchmen, and in particularly were set on genocide of the Jewish people who scrimped, saved, and flourished in spite of being the boot scrapers of hateful seekers of something-for-nothing Nazi masterminds of mankind's destruction to even the score of WWI against them.

Someday you will stop buying the farm, except you seem to be profiting from the fits of the Democrat something-for-nothing Party. When and if they ever get total power they crave, they will simply become the little Hitlers they act like.

In 2008 the Democrats did have the power. What we got was Obamacare. Hardly what we needed and IMO a failure but hardly "Hitler like".

When the Democrats 'had the power,' they turned over nuclear ability to the Bolsheviks.
When FDR was apprised of a Stalin spy in his administration......he promoted him!


George Earle was a special emissary of FDR's to Europe...and returned in 1944 with proof that implicated the Soviets in the Katyn Forest massacre (In April of 1943, the mass graves of thousands of shot, bayoneted, and asphyxiated Polish officers were uncovered in the Katyn pine forest near Smolensk, Russia.) Earle testified later at the Katyn Forest hearings that Joe Levy of the NYTimes, warned him that bringing an anti-Soviet report to FDR would be a career ender : "George, you don't know what you are going to over there. Harry Hopkins has completed domination over the President and the whole atmosphere over there is 'pink.'" West, "American Betrayal," p.211.

 

[PoliticalChic]

and because Franklin Roosevelt was a socialist

And that's a bad thing, why? Frankly, I'm looking at capitalism right now and for most people, it's a shit sandwich.

To be fair, we don't really practice capitalism. There must be a reason why no one does.

But yeah back to the topic, wouldn't it have been cool if we could drop nukes every time a country did something we didn't like? That would be cool. When we got wind of them creating their own KABOOM, destroy everything. We would be so loved.

Whatever turns you on dude... But what you think is cool is really sick

Sarcasm.

Too late for you to hide.
That many a true word hath been spoke in jest.

 

[beautress]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

You're lying, but you may not know it. Your party is feeding you their shit and you're eating it. I actually remember my parents discussing the events you just eliminated from your conscience, except that Americans thought ending the war-making machines of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was better than the Japanese/German alliance ridding themselves of our West Coast and moving onward and eastward to the leadership area in Washington DC as their ultimate goal. Hitler was getting beaten by the Allies, but they had many German Nazi operatives in their ally, Japan in order to sack America that sacked Hitler's regime of nutcase Nazis. We beat them through the will of God who loved what America was --a true friend to Great Britain and free people in Europe who'd been assaulted by Hitler's henchmen, and in particularly were set on genocide of the Jewish people who scrimped, saved, and flourished in spite of being the boot scrapers of hateful seekers of something-for-nothing Nazi masterminds of mankind's destruction to even the score of WWI against them.

Someday you will stop buying the farm, except you seem to be profiting from the fits of the Democrat something-for-nothing Party. When and if they ever get total power they crave, they will simply become the little Hitlers they act like.

No one who understood the geopolitical history of the last century could have written.... "And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team. "


There was no more burning hatred than that of the Germans for the Russians.

You're absolutely right. The Germans and Russians played tug-of-war with Poland and Slovakian nations between Moscow and Berlin for a thousand years. It's kind of like the Crusades did not resolve the generations of competitive hatreds in the Middle East from the time Abraham's Sarah sent her servant, Hagar (and son, Ishmael) back to the land of Hagar's family. Ishmael became the father of a great number of people, and so did Sarah's son, Isaac, through his son, Jacob (aka Israel). Centuries have past, and there is still animosity between the brothers' descendants. I've been to Russia, and I've been to Germany. The people on the streets of both countries are like precious jewels, but they do not like each other with wars breaking out betwixt the two of them going on a second millenia. Israel's chasm is by far the longest all-out hostility in Western history. Spurning Mosaic laws is tricky. I wish I knew more about the mongoloid people, but when I went to school, little was required to know about China and her neighbors. I only know scraps of the past century in which a Chinese leader ordered death to a hundred million people that was carried out in his lifetime. Rather than win them with diplomacy, China just erased entire states with wiping them off the face of the map in a genocidal rage. Human totalitarianism is a fearsome thing. In America, the Democrats are trying to demolish the present and past to move into total control of human beings in the founder's America. It will not end well for any of us.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

and because Franklin Roosevelt was a socialist

Socialist may be the correct term, but it was motivated by a deep hatred of successful businessmen.

"Over the course of his presidency, FDR waged war on businesses. He would demagogue big business in his speeches because he knew that business owners could take him down. They were the ones suffering the most, and they knew it was FDR’s policies that were hurting the economy. Roosevelt tried to create a divided culture. Turning the “rich” against the poor, the middle class against the rich, and average citizens against business. Class warfare was the only way he believed he could keep his job.

http://lastresistance.com/422/the-final-case-against-franklin-delano-obama/#lkMvmu9OHYlUHx6Q.99

A 'C to C+' student; not much for homework, study, or research....but he focused on social-political clubs, debates and journalism.

b. Not the only rejection, but a significant one, was his attempt to join Porcellian, the oldest and most elite social club at Harvard. Theodore Roosevelt and other members of the Roosevelt family belonged to the club, but Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was president of the Harvard Crimson, never managed to be elected a member. At some time, in his late thirties, he told his relative Sheffield Cowles that this had been "the greatest disappointment in his life". Frances Richardson Keller, Fictions of U. S. History : A Theory & Four Illustrations, p. 116.

Porcellian members were future entrepreneurs, businessmen, bankers, and corporate lawyers.
And they had rejected Franklin Roosevelt.


And such was the basis of Roosevelt's envy of what Stalin did.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

You're lying, but you may not know it. Your party is feeding you their shit and you're eating it. I actually remember my parents discussing the events you just eliminated from your conscience, except that Americans thought ending the war-making machines of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was better than the Japanese/German alliance ridding themselves of our West Coast and moving onward and eastward to the leadership area in Washington DC as their ultimate goal. Hitler was getting beaten by the Allies, but they had many German Nazi operatives in their ally, Japan in order to sack America that sacked Hitler's regime of nutcase Nazis. We beat them through the will of God who loved what America was --a true friend to Great Britain and free people in Europe who'd been assaulted by Hitler's henchmen, and in particularly were set on genocide of the Jewish people who scrimped, saved, and flourished in spite of being the boot scrapers of hateful seekers of something-for-nothing Nazi masterminds of mankind's destruction to even the score of WWI against them.

Someday you will stop buying the farm, except you seem to be profiting from the fits of the Democrat something-for-nothing Party. When and if they ever get total power they crave, they will simply become the little Hitlers they act like.

No one who understood the geopolitical history of the last century could have written.... "And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team. "


There was no more burning hatred than that of the Germans for the Russians.

You're absolutely right. The Germans and Russians played tug-of-war with Poland and Slovakian nations between Moscow and Berlin for a thousand years. It's kind of like the Crusades did not resolve the generations of competitive hatreds in the Middle East from the time Abraham's Sarah sent her servant, Hagar (and son, Ishmael) back to the land of Hagar's family. Ishmael became the father of a great number of people, and so did Sarah's son, Isaac, through his son, Jacob (aka Israel). Centuries have past, and there is still animosity between the brothers' descendants. I've been to Russia, and I've been to Germany. The people on the streets of both countries are like precious jewels, but they do not like each other with wars breaking out betwixt the two of them going on a second millenia. Israel's chasm is by far the longest all-out hostility in Western history. Spurning Mosaic laws is tricky. I wish I knew more about the mongoloid people, but when I went to school, little was required to know about China and her neighbors. I only know scraps of the past century in which a Chinese leader ordered death to a hundred million people that was carried out in his lifetime. Rather than win them with diplomacy, China just erased entire states with wiping them off the face of the map in a genocidal rage. Human totalitarianism is a fearsome thing. In America, the Democrats are trying to demolish the present and past to move into total control of human beings in the founder's America. It will not end well for any of us.

Interesting!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wow... just amazing.

Uh, the Soviets had scientists, too... And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team.

They got the bomb because the technology just wasn't that complicated.

You're lying, but you may not know it. Your party is feeding you their shit and you're eating it. I actually remember my parents discussing the events you just eliminated from your conscience, except that Americans thought ending the war-making machines of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was better than the Japanese/German alliance ridding themselves of our West Coast and moving onward and eastward to the leadership area in Washington DC as their ultimate goal. Hitler was getting beaten by the Allies, but they had many German Nazi operatives in their ally, Japan in order to sack America that sacked Hitler's regime of nutcase Nazis. We beat them through the will of God who loved what America was --a true friend to Great Britain and free people in Europe who'd been assaulted by Hitler's henchmen, and in particularly were set on genocide of the Jewish people who scrimped, saved, and flourished in spite of being the boot scrapers of hateful seekers of something-for-nothing Nazi masterminds of mankind's destruction to even the score of WWI against them.

Someday you will stop buying the farm, except you seem to be profiting from the fits of the Democrat something-for-nothing Party. When and if they ever get total power they crave, they will simply become the little Hitlers they act like.

No one who understood the geopolitical history of the last century could have written.... "And after WWII, they added a bunch of German Scientists to their team. "


There was no more burning hatred than that of the Germans for the Russians.

You're absolutely right. The Germans and Russians played tug-of-war with Poland and Slovakian nations between Moscow and Berlin for a thousand years. It's kind of like the Crusades did not resolve the generations of competitive hatreds in the Middle East from the time Abraham's Sarah sent her servant, Hagar (and son, Ishmael) back to the land of Hagar's family. Ishmael became the father of a great number of people, and so did Sarah's son, Isaac, through his son, Jacob (aka Israel). Centuries have past, and there is still animosity between the brothers' descendants. I've been to Russia, and I've been to Germany. The people on the streets of both countries are like precious jewels, but they do not like each other with wars breaking out betwixt the two of them going on a second millenia. Israel's chasm is by far the longest all-out hostility in Western history. Spurning Mosaic laws is tricky. I wish I knew more about the mongoloid people, but when I went to school, little was required to know about China and her neighbors. I only know scraps of the past century in which a Chinese leader ordered death to a hundred million people that was carried out in his lifetime. Rather than win them with diplomacy, China just erased entire states with wiping them off the face of the map in a genocidal rage. Human totalitarianism is a fearsome thing. In America, the Democrats are trying to demolish the present and past to move into total control of human beings in the founder's America. It will not end well for any of us.

" In America, the Democrats are trying to demolish the present and past to move into total control of human beings in the founder's America. It will not end well for any of us."


Sounds familiar.


"5 Things Marx Wanted to Abolish (Besides Private Property)
1. The Family

2. Individuality

3. Eternal Truths

4. Nations

5. The Past"

5 Things Marx Wanted to Abolish (Besides Private Property) | Jon Miltimore

Marx’s manifesto is famous for summing up his theory of Communism with a single sentence: “Abolition of private property.” But this was hardly the only thing the philosopher believed must be abolished from bourgeois society in the proletariat's march to utopia. In his manifesto, Marx highlighted...

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[PoliticalChic]

While so many thought that America's ownership of the atomic bomb signaled an end to wars, FDR's willingness to share same with Stalin brought the very opposite.

He made certain that communism survived the war, and thrived afterwards.



Without his efforts, there would be no Red China, no Korean War, and no Vietnamese War



...and he is the proximate explanation for the cultural Marxism prevalent in society today.

 

[JoeB131]

You're lying, but you may not know it. Your party is feeding you their shit and you're eating it. I actually remember my parents discussing the events you just eliminated from your conscience, except that Americans thought ending the war-making machines of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was better than the Japanese/German alliance ridding themselves of our West Coast and moving onward and eastward to the leadership area in Washington DC as their ultimate goal. Hitler was getting beaten by the Allies, but they had many German Nazi operatives in their ally, Japan in order to sack America that sacked Hitler's regime of nutcase Nazis. We beat them through the will of God who loved what America was --a true friend to Great Britain and free people in Europe who'd been assaulted by Hitler's henchmen, and in particularly were set on genocide of the Jewish people who scrimped, saved, and flourished in spite of being the boot scrapers of hateful seekers of something-for-nothing Nazi masterminds of mankind's destruction to even the score of WWI against them.

Wow, that was a lot of babble. The reality is the USSR did most of the heavy lifting in beating the Axis. Japan had no intention of invading the west coast. they just wanted to drag the war out long enough to get a favorable settlement.

Someday you will stop buying the farm, except you seem to be profiting from the fits of the Democrat something-for-nothing Party. When and if they ever get total power they crave, they will simply become the little Hitlers they act like.

hey, we've seen what happens when your side gets into power, we are all a lot poorer but we are "right with Jay-a-zus"