- Nov 25, 2021
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No, sir. We had plenty of paper-pushers in the Army as well. I was one for a while. My first enlistment, I was inexperienced enough to sign up to be a seventy-one Lima, i.e. typist-filer, for 18 months. I seriously thought it would be a buncha laid-back guys watching for four-thirty, so we could head for the E Club. Nope. If I had a nickel for every time I encountered someone who talked about paperwork in that self-aggrandizing tone, I could have retired after the first two year.I was a Secondary Control point custodian as well as a Classified Courier for 1st MAW out of Okinawa. So, yeah keeping track of the classified material is what kept me from going to the brig. I guess in the Army you all do not really give a shit about such things. Not really a surprise.
Did y'all use this one: "filing is about attention to detail, because lack of attention to detail is what gets people killed in combat!"
Yes. In combat, in specific situations, like dialing in an artillery battery when bracketing enemy troops with American troops close in, attention to detail is life and death. Sometimes. Filing a document about a visit from a plumbing contractor in the "miscellaneous" file, when the filing regulation (yes, there was a filing regulation) calls for a file on building operations, doesn't get people killed in combat.
The Master Sergeant who caught PFC Plops in that grievous error was angry that I had a miscellaneous file in the first place, and he challenged me to "show me in the regulation where it says you can do that!" I showed it to him and he was angry that I knew something about filing that he did not. So he went over every document in the miscellaneous file until on the second look-through, he found that one. Then he spent almost half an hour reading the reg to find the part about a building operations file.
But, he had me! By Allah, he had me! He made sure it was prominent in his report to the Full Bird that commanded the Brigade. He literally said that I had shown a cavalier attitude by "overusing" the miscellaneous file. Lives were saved by moving that invoice to the building operations file!
You said Marines, so I won't ask if that Sarge was you.
If nobody knows if they were declassified, then Trump is still presumed innocent. If you refer to them as "the documents" instead of "the classified material," I'll refrain from correcting you every time.Nobody knows if they were Declassified, no matter how many times you say they were.
Really? Who saw them and told the DOJ about it? Be specific with a name, please. I hope it isn't an "anonymous source."All that security yet someone saw them and told the DOJ about it. Weird.
I didn't say that they looked at every single document that was their. They weren't Sergeant Gator, poring over every file. They saw how the documents were stored and they did not take them, as they could have if they were stored illegally.You choose to pretend that each time they were shown everything that was there. Again, we do not know if this is the case.
It was declassified before it left the White House while Trump was president and still had sole authority to do so. We know of one person who heard Trump declassify them. When they start grilling GSA employees about why the hell they packed up "classified documents" for Mar-a-lago, you can bet one of them will cough out a name of their boss who knew damn well that Trump declassified them.What others? So far only one other has come forward. But this goes back to my initial point, if nobody knew what all was there, how can it have been declassified if nobody knew what was even there?
That boss may throw them under the bus, by denying it, but that won't change the truth.
Presidents have taken documents and other objects from the WH ever since George Washington. The Clintons were noted for the amount of loot they hauled out, not including their juvenile staff taking every "W" from the typewriters. Maybe that is wrong. Maybe there should be a law. But starting with Trump for the first prosecution for that not-yet-existing law doesn't support the FBI's claim of being non-partisan crime fighters.Unless one has the mindset of Trump and thinks all those things are his and his alone.