The future is very bright for the United States

[zaangalewa]

States are upholding the 2nd Amendment...

South Dakota Governor Signs Bills to Protect Gun Rights

www.theepochtimes.com

That's your only standard for a bright future?

Single issue voters are annoying and stupid.

The Second Amendment is the guarantee for the entire Bill of Rights.

As far as I can see you armed the citizens of the USA on reason "America to the Americans and not to the Indians."

The Bill of Rights limits the powers of the government . If you want to live in a free country for the long term the Second Amendment is a very important single issue to protect.

And by the way: I took a look now at this bill of rights and in this context it looks to me the second amendment would guarantee every state of the USA an own army. I guess the current military structure of the USA is illegal in context of this second amendment. I guess they never thought about that the USA on its own has the right to have soldiers.

 

[P@triot]

And by the way: I took a look now at this bill of rights and in this context it looks to me the second amendment would guarantee every state of the USA an own army. I guess the current military structure of the USA is illegal in context of this second amendment.

Well clearly you can’t read and/or you have a signifcant reading comprehension problem - because the 2nd Amendment says no such thing.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It’s one sentence, plain as day, cut & dry. The people have a right to keep and bear arms. Not the military. The people.

 

[zaangalewa]

And by the way: I took a look now at this bill of rights and in this context it looks to me the second amendment would guarantee every state of the USA an own army. I guess the current military structure of the USA is illegal in context of this second amendment.

Well clearly you can’t read and/or you have a signifcant reading comprehension problem - because the 2nd Amendment says no such thing.

I doubt that you are right. I'm normally very good in sensing what ancient cultures think when they say something. I guess the basic idea of this second amandment is it that every state of the USA has an own army - supported from the own citizens. A similar system exists in Switzerland. Everyone has a gun at home, because he is ready to defend the own country and the neutrality of their multi-ethnic country.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It’s one sentence, plain as day, cut & dry. The people have a right to keep and bear arms. Not the military. The people.

You are the US-American. It's your constitution. But I think this law was made once from people who had used muzzle loaders. In average 1 shot per minute. Every 7th shot was a malfunction. After 25 shots they needed a new flint and after 60 shots the rifle was not able to be used any longer because of the massive dirt and had to be cleaned first.
An AR-15 today fires about 700-1000 shots within a minute. This is comparable with an army of about 500 men in the time of history when this amandment was made.

 

[Rigby5]

And by the way: I took a look now at this bill of rights and in this context it looks to me the second amendment would guarantee every state of the USA an own army. I guess the current military structure of the USA is illegal in context of this second amendment.

Well clearly you can’t read and/or you have a signifcant reading comprehension problem - because the 2nd Amendment says no such thing.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It’s one sentence, plain as day, cut & dry. The people have a right to keep and bear arms. Not the military. The people.

You and zaangalewa are both right.
The federal military is supposed to come from the state militia, which is supposed to come from the municipal posses, which come from each home owner being armed.
You can tell because like in the Civil War, each division came from different states, wore different uniform, and used different firearms.
The founders did not trust or want any paid professional mercenaries.

Which is what we have screwed up.
Instead of relying on armed citizen soldiers, we have a paid professional, mercenary military, National Guard, and police.
That is a formula for police state, dictatorship.

 

[Rigby5]

And by the way: I took a look now at this bill of rights and in this context it looks to me the second amendment would guarantee every state of the USA an own army. I guess the current military structure of the USA is illegal in context of this second amendment.

Well clearly you can’t read and/or you have a signifcant reading comprehension problem - because the 2nd Amendment says no such thing.

I doubt that you are right. I'm normally very good in sensing what ancient cultures think when they say something. I guess the basic idea of this second amandment is it that every state of the USA has an own army - supported from the own citizens. A similar system exists in Switzerland. Everyone has a gun at home, because he is ready to defend the own country and the neutrality of their multi-ethnic country.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It’s one sentence, plain as day, cut & dry. The people have a right to keep and bear arms. Not the military. The people.

You are the US-American. It's your constitution. But I think this law was made once from people who had used muzzle loaders. In average 1 shot per minute. Every 7th shot was a malfunction. After 25 shots they needed a new flint and after 60 shots the rifle was not able to be used any longer because of the massive dirt and had to be cleaned first.
An AR-15 today fires about 700-1000 shots within a minute. This is comparable with an army of about 500 men in the time of history when this amandment was made.

To make fire effective, the rate has to be much lower than that. and I do not believe that rate of random fire is even possible/
{... According to the Bushmaster AR-15 manual, the firearm has a maximum effective rate of 45 rounds per minute — ...}

But that does not matter, because although the firearms are much deadlier now than in the days of the founders, the enemy, whether drug gang, thief, invader, etc., also has that rate of fire. Like the Korean grocers defending their stores in the LA riots. Now every had to keep up with the standard.

 

[P@triot]

Instead of relying on armed citizen soldiers, we have a paid professional, mercenary military, National Guard, and police.

Well the US Constitution does authorize the federal government to tax for a standing military.

And let’s be honest, a “citizen army” simply cannot defend the United States in the 21st century. Some objectives require highly trained, highly specialized, elite special forces such as Navy Seals and Delta Force.

That is a formula for police state, dictatorship.

True. Which is what makes upholding the 2nd Amendment (as written) more important than ever.

 

[Rigby5]

Instead of relying on armed citizen soldiers, we have a paid professional, mercenary military, National Guard, and police.

Well the US Constitution does authorize the federal government to tax for a standing military.

And let’s be honest, a “citizen army” simply cannot defend the United States in the 21st century. Some objectives require highly trained, highly specialized, elite special forces such as Navy Seals and Delta Force.

That is a formula for police state, dictatorship.

True. Which is what makes upholding the 2nd Amendment (as written) more important than ever.

Do we need something like Navy Seals and Delta Force, to defend?
Seems to me they are for assassinations and other offensive actions we probably should not be doing?
Any athlete could be trained in weapons use on weekends and be just as good.
No one should be professional at harming other people.

 

[zaangalewa]

And by the way: I took a look now at this bill of rights and in this context it looks to me the second amendment would guarantee every state of the USA an own army. I guess the current military structure of the USA is illegal in context of this second amendment.

Well clearly you can’t read and/or you have a signifcant reading comprehension problem - because the 2nd Amendment says no such thing.

I doubt that you are right. I'm normally very good in sensing what ancient cultures think when they say something. I guess the basic idea of this second amandment is it that every state of the USA has an own army - supported from the own citizens. A similar system exists in Switzerland. Everyone has a gun at home, because he is ready to defend the own country and the neutrality of their multi-ethnic country.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It’s one sentence, plain as day, cut & dry. The people have a right to keep and bear arms. Not the military. The people.

You are the US-American. It's your constitution. But I think this law was made once from people who had used muzzle loaders. In average 1 shot per minute. Every 7th shot was a malfunction. After 25 shots they needed a new flint and after 60 shots the rifle was not able to be used any longer because of the massive dirt and had to be cleaned first.
An AR-15 today fires about 700-1000 shots within a minute. This is comparable with an army of about 500 men in the time of history when this amandment was made.

To make fire effective, the rate has to be much lower than that. and I do not believe that rate of random fire is even possible/
{... According to the Bushmaster AR-15 manual, the firearm has a maximum effective rate of 45 rounds per minute — ...}

But that does not matter, because although the firearms are much deadlier now than in the days of the founders, the enemy, whether drug gang, thief, invader, etc., also has that rate of fire. Like the Korean grocers defending their stores in the LA riots. Now every had to keep up with the standard.

I guess you underestimate that it exists not only a new quantity. It exists also a new quality meanwhile. I remember for example that someone started to shoot in a public event where three police cars and six policmen were around. Although all of this policemen reacted very fast and in the very best of all possible ways 4 people had to die before the policemen were able to stop this single psychopath.

 

[P@triot]

Do we need something like Navy Seals and Delta Force, to defend?

Absolutely. They weren’t created for fun. The era of the “World War” is over. You’ll never see another battlefield with trenches and tanks again. Today’s conflicts are small, urban, and specialized.

Seems to me they are for assassinations and other offensive actions we probably should not be doing?

Well then you have a complete and total misunderstanding of what they do. Very few of their operations are “offensive”. Most of their operations are things like reconnaissance, intelligence, sabotaging enemy weapons/radar systems, hostage rescue, etc.

I’d venture to say that no more than 10% of their missions are targeting an HVT for elimination.

Any athlete could be trained in weapons use on weekends and be just as good.

That literally may be the most ignorant statement ever made on USMB. I was a former athlete on a very high level, and I have extensive firearms training. And I’m nowhere near the stratosphere of a special forces operator. You simply have no idea what you’re talking about here.

No one should be professional at harming other people.

Why? Says who? Where is that written? That may be the second most ignorant statement ever made on USMB. There are evil people in the world that must be eliminated. Osama Bin Laden had to be eliminated. Adolf Hitler had to be eliminated.

You immature, idealistic, kumbaya nonsense just doesn’t apply to the real world.

 

[P@triot]

It’s nice to see Sheriffs defending the US Constitution as they took an oath to do. The future is looking very bright for the United States.

Gun Sanctuary Movement Erupts: 61 Percent of US Counties Now ‘Second Amendment Sanctuaries’

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[P@triot]

The courts are doing their job protecting the US Constitution from the fascists...

Election Integrity Attacks From Democrats Are Failing in Court

A recent legal proceeding in Florida proves the cheap, theatrical partisanship driving nationwide Democratic attacks on election integrity.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[P@triot]

Holy cow...a Democrat recognizing the importance of protecting the minority against mob-rule (ie the entire point of a republic)?!? This is unprecedented in the 21st Century.

Kyrsten Sinema Reaffirms That She Will Not Support Abolishing Filibuster

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., argues that the filibuster is essential to ensure moderation and compromise.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[P@triot]

Secure elections are going to make life miserable for the Dumbocrats. The future is looking brighter and brighter every day for the United States!

In huge boon to GOP election security efforts, SCOTUS upholds Arizona voting rules

The court's decision could spell doom for the Justice Department's lawsuit against Georgia

www.theblaze.com

 

[candycorn]

Future got much brighter when the blob lost to Biden.

 

[P@triot]

Future got much brighter when the blob lost to Biden.

Only for the anti-American marxists who want to mooch off of society ‍

 

[P@triot]

President Trump’s courts are properly upholding the US Constitution…

âCourt rules against university that targeted Christian group, saying they were 'hard-pressed' to find a more blatant example of 'discrimination'

The 8th Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday ruled against the University of Iowa calling its decision to deregister a Christian student group as one of the most obvious examples of discrimination that it has ever seen.In a ruling issued on Friday, the court unanimously sided with InterVarsity...

www.theblaze.com

 

[P@triot]

Alway good to see the courts upholding the US Constitution against the left’s perverted (and extremely fascist) agenda…

Court Blocks Mandate Forcing Doctors to Perform Trans Surgeries

Judge grants “a permanent injunction” to Christian plaintiffs “to be exempt from the government’s requirement to perform" trans surgeries.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[P@triot]

President Trump appointed a lot of judges who are properly upholding the US Constitution.

A Court Victory in Texas Against Obamacare’s Transgender Mandate

A judge blocks a measure forcing medical professionals to participate in gender transition surgery against their medical or moral judgment.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[P@triot]

Hahahaha! Fuck off, Twitter and Facebook! We the People are tired of your fascist bullshit. You should have been prosecuted for violation of Section 230 a long time ago.

Abbott Signs Bill Barring Social Media Companies From Censoring Views

The Texas legislation prohibits social media platforms from banning or suspending users based on political viewpoint.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[Colin norris]

That's your only standard for a bright future?

Single issue voters are annoying and stupid.

Guns are like a spinal cord. Take them away and Republicans turn to jelly.