The Four Main Fails of AGW

[CrusaderFrank]

Because I've done so many times before, and Frank just lies about it. But since you asked, I count 77 papers listed here that define the spectral absorption characteristics of CO2.

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/hitran/Updated/ref-table.pdf

A lot of this stuff originates with the Air Force, who were trying to make missiles with IR seeker heads. You can't make those work without knowing what kinds of IR will travel through the atmosphere.

Needless to say, the Air Force is clearly part of the socialist conspiracy.

Odd that you can't post an integer in response. Why is that?

Sounds like the squid ink defense

 

[CrusaderFrank]

great, which one shows the affect of CO2 on temperature? I did a search and not one article or experiment popped up. So, if you don't mind, which one of the experiments in that link shows the impact of CO2 on temperature.

Notice there's no answer, just a link to more Tyndall-like papers

 

[mamooth]

Odd that you can't post an integer in response. Why is that?

Here's what you asked for.

Post a number that describes the increase in temperature from increasing CO2 from 260 to 400PPM. 0 is a number, so start there.

Do you understand how that makes no sense at all? Probably not.

Understand that I was demonstrating pity by ignoring you. Even among denier cultists, your stupid stands out. The other deniers here are embarrassed by you, and they wish you would shut up.

You may proceed with more whining now, my sweet little pout-stalker.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Here's what you asked for.



Do you understand how that makes no sense at all? Probably not.

Understand that I was demonstrating pity by ignoring you. Even among denier cultists, your stupid stands out. The other deniers here are embarrassed by you, and they wish you would shut up.

You may proceed with more whining now, my sweet little pout-stalker.

Wait. I thought you said you answered the question countless times?! This is another story you're telling us now.

 

[jc456]

Notice there's no answer, just a link to more Tyndall-like papers

when there isn't any evidence to support their claim, it's all they got. You know this, I know this, as well as many others in here. Some things are just clear as glass.

 

[jc456]

Here's what you asked for.



Do you understand how that makes no sense at all? Probably not.

Understand that I was demonstrating pity by ignoring you. Even among denier cultists, your stupid stands out. The other deniers here are embarrassed by you, and they wish you would shut up.

You may proceed with more whining now, my sweet little pout-stalker.

reading your post here is significant to the thread, you have just admitted you don't have the evidence to support your position. And in fairness to the thread, it seems it is you whining since you can't produce the evidence requested. deflection is all you got. PERIOD.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

AGW Cult: We have to cut back CO2 emissions because it traps heat and is warming the planet

Skeptics: How much heat does the 120PPM of CO2 generate? How much of a temperature increase is there?

AGW Cult: You Fool of a Denier! We answered that above!!

Skeptics: I don't see any number there

AGW Cult: Of course you don't, you're a denier! We have Consensus!

Skeptics: If your Theory and remedies are accurate, why did CO2 continue to rise during the Covid global shutdown?

AGW Cult: How many times must we explain this to you? You are stupid and need to take your meds. We have Consensus, we don't have to answer

 

[jc456]

mamooth

How much additional heat, measured by a temperature increase, does the additional 120 ppm of CO2 (from 280 to 400PPM), generate?

Hey Frank, if two objects at the same temperature can’t heat each other, than because CO2 molecules are the same temperature, they can’t increase atmospheric temperatures no matter how many more exist.

The physics says so. Demofks won’t be able to ever answer because there’s no answer for them but to expose that fact

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yes, your arguments all fail the scientific method. Congrats you follow a pseudo science. Cultists do that.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hey Frank, if two objects at the same temperature can’t heat each other, than because CO2 molecules are the same temperature, they can’t increase atmospheric temperatures no matter how many more exist.

The physics says so. Demofks won’t be able to ever answer because there’s no answer for them but to expose that fact

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A flat out lie. The absorption characteristics of CO2 are characterized by hundreds of papers. We've shown them to Frank before.


Well, yes. Again, we've explained that to Frank in one-syllable words. The fact that he's an imbecile doesn't make reality invalid.


Again, a big lie. The climate scientist predictions have been excellent, while Frank and his cult pals have faceplanted consistently for over 40 years running now.



Flat earthers and scientologists also claim that those outside of their cults are the real cultists. That's standard behavior for authoritarian-follower cult losers. They can cry and whine all they like, but all the data _still_ say's they're kook cult losers. Frank thinks he can overturn reality if he just throws enough trantrums, but that is not the case.

AGW science crosses all political boundaries all around the world, because it's actual science. If left-wing politics vanished, the science wouldn't change at all.

Frank's butthurt denialism is restricted mostly to American conservatives, because it's entirely political. If right-wing politics vanished, denialism would instantly cease to exist.

Two choices:

1. Show me the AGW experiment testing for an additional 120PPM of CO2 or,
2. STFU

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Water vapor is a feedback, not a forcing. The CO2 causes the warming, and the warming causes more water vapor.

This is basic stuff, and you fail completely at it. You;'re too ignorant of the topic to understand how ignorant you are, a textbook example of Dunning-Kruger Syndrome.


Sweet Jeebus, you're dim. The grownups are talking. Back to the kiddie table with you. Here's a juicebox.


Increased hurircane activity was never predicted. Again, you're completely ignorant of the science.


Absolutely wrong.


As the Bush admin did. Is there anything you don't get completely wrong?


You can't grasp the difference between climate and weather, but you expect _not_ to be laughed at by normal people?


Meth is a helluva drug.

The CO2 causes the warming

Except when it doesn't. Not one year in 450,000 did CO2 force ANYTHING! In fact, every time CO2 peaks, temperature plummets for tens of thousands of year!

 

[Oddball]

AGW Cult: We have to cut back CO2 emissions because it traps heat and is warming the planet

Skeptics: How much heat does the 120PPM of CO2 generate? How much of a temperature increase is there?

AGW Cult: You Fool of a Denier! We answered that above!!

Skeptics: I don't see any number there

AGW Cult: Of course you don't, you're a denier! We have Consensus!

Skeptics: If your Theory and remedies are accurate, why did CO2 continue to rise during the Covid global shutdown?

AGW Cult: How many times must we explain this to you? You are stupid and need to take your meds. We have Consensus, we don't have to answer

 

[task0778]

AGW is all about money and politics and that is all. It's basically scaring the shit out of people to redistribute wealth from those who have it to those who want it. IMHO it is the biggest scam of all time, nothing else comes close.

 

[Oddball]

Here are the 4 main reasons why AGW fails:

1. There are no experiments. The central pillar is that an increase in a negligible atmospheric gas is generating heat that will soon end all life on Earth. Well, how much additional heat does the 120 ppm of CO2 generate? Why is there never a non-imaginary number provided by the lab work?

2. This additional planet killing atmospheric heat in 1 above is somehow also heating the oceans down 700m deep? Yet, it takes far more energy to heat water than air. Where is that missing energy?

3. So many failed predictions! Any real scientist would have had to discard the flawed theory and moved on, AGW is impervious to its graphic, public misses

4. The AGW Cult; yes, it's a Cult, because it's religion, not science, is oblivious to the fact that China generates more of this imaginary planet killing gas than all industrial nations combined and double the output of the USA. If this really was science and an existential threat, all the efforts would be on dialing back Chinese output. Instead, the AGW Cult excuses the ChiComs for being allowed to continue spewing this imaginary planet killing gas for 20 years beyond the latest alleged tipping point.

5) Unquantifiable: For as long as I've been asking about this, nobody anywhere has ever given a hard-and-fast equation that can boil down to; X "excess" CO2 = Y° of warming.

 

[otto105]

Hey Frank, if two objects at the same temperature can’t heat each other, than because CO2 molecules are the same temperature, they can’t increase atmospheric temperatures no matter how many more exist.

The physics says so. Demofks won’t be able to ever answer because there’s no answer for them but to expose that fact

Hilarious

 

[task0778]

6) To date the AGW crowd has yet to offer any workable and effective solutions. They've bitched like hell for more than 30 years and not only have they failed to prove their case but nevertheless they want to spend trillions of dollars on various programs that won't change anything. IOW, it's a complete and utter scam with disastrous consequences for those who can afford it least.

 

[otto105]

6) To date the AGW crowd has yet to offer any workable and effective solutions. They've bitched like hell for more than 30 years and not only have they failed to prove their case but nevertheless they want to spend trillions of dollars on various programs that won't change anything. IOW, it's a complete and utter scam with disastrous consequences for those who can afford it least.

Like you care about the least of us.


Also what about reduce our carbon footprint do you fuckups not understand.

 

[jc456]

Hilarious

Of course, physics doesn’t lie like you.

All you need to do is show two objects at the same temperature violate physics

 

[elektra]

Like you care about the least of us.
Also what about reduce our carbon footprint do you fuckups not understand.

What I dont understand is if we must reduce our carbon footprint how can you do it buy creating a Renewable/Green Heavy industry that is consuming more natural resources and emitting more carbon than all other industries?

If the idea is to cut carbon, the least efficient most expensive, wind turbines and solar does the opposite.