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We should be concerned with efficiency and fossil fuels are more efficient. Countries that have no EPA like organizations hardly bother with wind and solar. Let's take a look at the comparative efficiency of fossil fuels with wind and solar in our own country.
"According to the Navajo Generating Station website, of the $650 million it cost to build the plant in the early '70s, $200 million went toward pollution-control systems. In the '90s, the plant spent $420 million on new sulfur-dioxide scrubbers, and put $45 million into nitrogen-oxide reductions between 2009 and 2011."
This U.S. Power Plant Shows Why Coal Is Dying, Won't Make a Comeback
Accounting for inflation the plant cost 2.28 billion dollars to make in 2019 dollars. 700 million of that was a result of EPA interference. Without that, it would have cost 1.58 billion dollars and it has an annual output of 12,059 GW·h.
Navajo Generating Station - Wikipedia
The biggest wind farm in America cost 2.875 billion dollars in 2010, 3.364 billion in 2019 dollars and has an annual output of 3,179 GW-h. Factoring in inflation, the wind farm cost 2.13 times as much without environmental concerns and produces 26.3% as much power.
Alta Wind Energy Center - Wikipedia
It gets worse.
"For subsidies related to electricity production, EIA data shows that solar energy was subsidized at $24.34 per megawatt hour and wind at $23.37 per megawatt hour for electricity generated in 2007. By contrast, coal received 44 cents, natural gas and petroleum received 25 cents, hydroelectric power 67 cents, and nuclear power $1.59 per megawatt hour."
Subsidizing American Energy: A Breakdown By Source - IER
I say we remove all the subsidies and restrictions and let them compete on fair terms.
"According to the Navajo Generating Station website, of the $650 million it cost to build the plant in the early '70s, $200 million went toward pollution-control systems. In the '90s, the plant spent $420 million on new sulfur-dioxide scrubbers, and put $45 million into nitrogen-oxide reductions between 2009 and 2011."
This U.S. Power Plant Shows Why Coal Is Dying, Won't Make a Comeback
Accounting for inflation the plant cost 2.28 billion dollars to make in 2019 dollars. 700 million of that was a result of EPA interference. Without that, it would have cost 1.58 billion dollars and it has an annual output of 12,059 GW·h.
Navajo Generating Station - Wikipedia
The biggest wind farm in America cost 2.875 billion dollars in 2010, 3.364 billion in 2019 dollars and has an annual output of 3,179 GW-h. Factoring in inflation, the wind farm cost 2.13 times as much without environmental concerns and produces 26.3% as much power.
Alta Wind Energy Center - Wikipedia
It gets worse.
"For subsidies related to electricity production, EIA data shows that solar energy was subsidized at $24.34 per megawatt hour and wind at $23.37 per megawatt hour for electricity generated in 2007. By contrast, coal received 44 cents, natural gas and petroleum received 25 cents, hydroelectric power 67 cents, and nuclear power $1.59 per megawatt hour."
Subsidizing American Energy: A Breakdown By Source - IER
I say we remove all the subsidies and restrictions and let them compete on fair terms.
