The endless search for a scapegoat continues unabated.

[easyt65]

Deflecting justified criticism away from himself isn't the Biogot-in-Chief's only motivation for going after the WHO.

Trump Attacks W.H.O. Over Criticisms of U.S. Approach to Coronavirus
In effect, the president sought to blame the group for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration.

Trump Attacks W.H.O. Over Criticisms of U.S. Approach to Coronavirus (Published 2020)

In effect, the president sought to blame the group for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration.

www.nytimes.com

WASHINGTON — President Trump lashed out on Tuesday at the World Health Organization, choosing a new political enemy to attack and threatening to withhold funding from a premier health institution even as a deadly virus ravages nations around the globe.

“We’re going to put a hold on money spent to the W.H.O. We’re going to put a very powerful hold on it and we’re going to see,” Mr. Trump said during the daily coronavirus briefing at the White House, accusing the organization of having not been aggressive enough in confronting the virus. “They called it wrong. They call it wrong. They really, they missed the call.”

In effect, Mr. Trump sought to denounce the W.H.O. for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration. Public health experts have said the president’s public denials of the virus’s dangers slowed the American response, which included delayed testing and a failure to stockpile protective gear.

Damn, if you are not one little 'China/WHO-bitch'......

China knew about the pandemic start in Nov 2019, hid it, refused to contain it by halting international travel, facilitated the spread of the pandemic, refused to let the CDC in, refused to share critical time-sensitive information ('time = lives save'), and put as much effort into ramping up their political propaganda machine to blame the US and attempt to convince the US military is responsible for the origination of the virus....

The WHO knew all of this, refused to call the virus epidemic a global threat even though they KNEW China was engaging in all of this false reporting, hiding, lying, etc..... they KNEW time lost = lives lost and still did NOTHING to the Chinese - no rebuke, condemnation, NOTHING......KNEW weeks earlier that the proverbial shit was about to hit the fan because they learned China had been allowing infected citizens travel to other nations and STILL told countries NOT to close their borders while at the same time advising them that screening for symptoms should be initiated / going on....

Yeah, while his administration is fully engaged in fighting this pandemic and protecting America, he is simultaneously calling pout both China and the WHO for failing to take steps early on that would have prevented the global spread of the pandemic and would have saved lives. (It's called -'multi-tasking' - something Dems claim Trump and his team can't do, when we all know the Democrats proved they are the ones who can not do so by going all-in so much on their coup attempt that they failed to have 1 single meeting on the growing pandemic....even in the weeks after the House Impeachment as they held the report from the Senate.

The same losers who are criticizing the President now for his 'failed early actions' can't bear to admit that their own politicians were horrifically even more inept / wrong for opposing the actions he did take that they even now admit were the right thing to do.


All you are is a 'HATER'. All you contribute is distortions, distractions, half-truths, lies, division, and partisan hate in the midst of a crisis the likes that used to bring Americans together ... until Democrats made the self-serving political choice to 'never let a crisis go to waste'.


.

 

[berg80]

Deflecting justified criticism away from himself isn't the Biogot-in-Chief's only motivation for going after the WHO.

Trump Attacks W.H.O. Over Criticisms of U.S. Approach to Coronavirus
In effect, the president sought to blame the group for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration.

Trump Attacks W.H.O. Over Criticisms of U.S. Approach to Coronavirus (Published 2020)

In effect, the president sought to blame the group for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration.

www.nytimes.com

WASHINGTON — President Trump lashed out on Tuesday at the World Health Organization, choosing a new political enemy to attack and threatening to withhold funding from a premier health institution even as a deadly virus ravages nations around the globe.

“We’re going to put a hold on money spent to the W.H.O. We’re going to put a very powerful hold on it and we’re going to see,” Mr. Trump said during the daily coronavirus briefing at the White House, accusing the organization of having not been aggressive enough in confronting the virus. “They called it wrong. They call it wrong. They really, they missed the call.”

In effect, Mr. Trump sought to denounce the W.H.O. for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration. Public health experts have said the president’s public denials of the virus’s dangers slowed the American response, which included delayed testing and a failure to stockpile protective gear.

Damn, if you are not one little 'China/WHO-bitch'......

China knew about the pandemic start in Nov 2019, hid it, refused to contain it by halting international travel, facilitated the spread of the pandemic, refused to let the CDC in, refused to share critical time-sensitive information ('time = lives save'), and put as much effort into ramping up their political propaganda machine to blame the US and attempt to convince the US military is responsible for the origination of the virus....

The WHO knew all of this, refused to call the virus epidemic a global threat even though they KNEW China was engaging in all of this false reporting, hiding, lying, etc..... they KNEW time lost = lives lost and still did NOTHING to the Chinese - no rebuke, condemnation, NOTHING......KNEW weeks earlier that the proverbial shit was about to hit the fan because they learned China had been allowing infected citizens travel to other nations and STILL told countries NOT to close their borders while at the same time advising them that screening for symptoms should be initiated / going on....

Yeah, while his administration is fully engaged in fighting this pandemic and protecting America, he is simultaneously calling pout both China and the WHO for failing to take steps early on that would have prevented the global spread of the pandemic and would have saved lives. (It's called -'multi-tasking' - something Dems claim Trump and his team can't do, when we all know the Democrats proved they are the ones who can not do so by going all-in so much on their coup attempt that they failed to have 1 single meeting on the growing pandemic....even in the weeks after the House Impeachment as they held the report from the Senate.

The same losers who are criticizing the President now for his 'failed early actions' can't bear to admit that their own politicians were horrifically even more inept / wrong for opposing the actions he did take that they even now admit were the right thing to do.


All you are is a 'HATER'. All you contribute is distortions, distractions, half-truths, lies, division, and partisan hate in the midst of a crisis the likes that used to bring Americans together ... until Democrats made the self-serving political choice to 'never let a crisis go to waste'.


.

Frustration with your inability to make a factual argument supporting your position has lead you to the use of gratuitous insults and more unsubstantiated allegations. Not to mention a regurgitation of erroneous things you've said previously.

In short, you have not made your case.

OTOH, a quick review of recent news articles covering Trump's attacks on the WHO proves mine. Better luck next time.

Pence Claims Trump Took COVID-19 Threat More Seriously Than World Health Org
In a clear effort to give cover to President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence on Wednesday night accused the...
talkingpointsmemo.com

Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee calls for WHO chief to testify
“I’ve been ... outraged by the responsiveness and the performance of the World Health Organization," Sen. Todd Young says.

www.politico.com

Trump blames WHO for getting coronavirus pandemic wrong, threatens to withhold funding
"They really called, I would say, every aspect of it wrong," Trump said of the World Health Organization on Tuesday.

www.cnbc.com

 

[kyzr]

So let's get this straight..... the USA had a Doctor Scientist position with the WHO at their China base, so that we could keep an eye on china and the viruses coming out of there, to keep the USA abreast of what was going on over there and not let china lie to us about any outbreaks

But President Trump, in 2018, removed that person because he claims he ran out of money to keep the person there or simply did not believe in it...

And now he is blaming the WHO? Instead of himself, for letting this very very important position being dropped by HIM?

Got a link for that post??

 

[berg80]

Got a link for that post??

Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak

Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters has learned.

www.reuters.com

It took me all of 15 seconds to find that link. See how easy it is to find the truth if you are looking for it?

 

[kyzr]

From your article, Trump gives his reasons for why the WHO was wrong. You didn't give any rationale' or facts why Trump was wrong. Hint: Trump is right, the WHO screwed-up, so this is just one of your daily TDS troll threads.

"They did give us some pretty bad play calling ... with regard to us, they’re taking a lot of heat because they didn’t want the borders closed, they called it wrong. They really called, I would say, every aspect of it wrong,” Trump said at a White House press conference Tuesday.

I'm not sure what Trump is bitching about; since he paid no attention to the WHO's advice on closing the border--he did it anyway. So how did the WHO's advice affect us?

Trump doesn't like anyone that doesn't bow down and kiss our ass, so it doesn't surprise me. HE made a mistake of his own, though, by not taking the WHO's test kits. Was that pettiness because he doesn't like their parent, the UN?

Let the EU use the WHO's test kits. In the US we only allow approved test kits proven for accuracy. The problem was that the CDC test was soooooooo slowwwwww. New tests had to be developed, now we're doing about 200,000 tests per day, soon to be in the millions per day.

The WHO was wrong and Trump called them on it

Trump slams 'China-centric' WHO, says agency 'called every shot wrong' in coronavirus pandemic

President Trump slammed the World Health Organization (WHO) for its "China-centric" views Tuesday, adding that the global health agency's projections and pronouncements about the coronavirus pandemic has been routinely wrong.

www.foxnews.com

The problem was that the CDC's new test kits didn't work. THAT's part of why CDC was so slowwwww. "We only allow approved test kits proven for accuracy?" Let's also take into consideration that Italy makes all our swabs--no swabs. That our pharmaceutical companies aren't making enough reagent (or are selling it to other countries--who knows.)
Some of those factors should have been taken into consideration before rejecting available kits from WHO. They could have tested one to see if it worked. Seemed to be working everywhere else.

IT WAS A MISTAKE FUELED BY ARROGANCE AND/OR PETTINESS.

It was a Federal regulation that Trump didn't mess with.
I can just imagine the screaming if Trump started issuing EOs revising established CDC and FDA regulations.
(It wasn't a Trump mistake)

Kyzr, he is quite publicly pushing and taking credit for the use of the anti-malarial drug that is still being tested. Way before the FDA allowed compassionate use of it. Trump has NO problem sticking his nose in and throwing out established regulations when it comes to the environment, though.

There is a big difference between expressing an opinion, and throwing out federal regulations. China and France tested HCQ and published results. Here is a link to the US clinical trials for HCQ if you work thru the drop down menus: Home - ClinicalTrials.gov
I'm still wondering what will happen to the "established" 18-month protocol for new vaccines versus what Trump will be pushing for to get the COVID vaccine out the door ASAP. IMHO Trump will "manage" that time period to as short as possible. I'm sure it will be less than 12-months. Similarly, the anti-body test and fast HCQ tests so we can get back to work.

I didn't realize Trump himself had to make an Executive Order to change a regulation in any of his agencies. Are you sure about that? The FDA, not Trump, made the statement on compassionate use. Or am I wrong there?

1. Trump can issue an EO to add a disease to the quarantine disease list
2. The 1st link says that ALL testing is by the CDC as per LAW, so I don't think Trump's EO would be legal

CLIA Law & Regulation

CDC - OPHSS - CSELS - Division of Laboratory Systems (DLS)

www.cdc.gov

Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments (CLIA) | CDC

CDC - OPHSS - CSELS - Division of Laboratory Systems (DLS)

www.cdc.gov

Specific Laws and Regulations Governing the Control of Communicable Diseases | Quarantine | CDC

The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services has statutory responsibility for preventing the introduction, transmission, and spread of communicable diseases in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

 

[kyzr]

So let's get this straight..... the USA had a Doctor Scientist position with the WHO at their China base, so that we could keep an eye on china and the viruses coming out of there, to keep the USA abreast of what was going on over there and not let china lie to us about any outbreaks

But President Trump, in 2018, removed that person because he claims he ran out of money to keep the person there or simply did not believe in it...

And now he is blaming the WHO? Instead of himself, for letting this very very important position being dropped by HIM?

Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak

Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters has learned.

www.reuters.com

"The first cases of the new coronavirus may have emerged as early as November, and as cases exploded, the Trump administration in February chastised China for censoring information about the outbreak and keeping U.S. experts from entering the country to help. "

So whether we send doctors or have one sitting in Beijing, the chicoms wouldn't let them near the quarantined area anyway. So this "issue" is a nothingburger, Trump saved the taxpayers from a wasted position.

 

[kyzr]

NO NO NO , you need to admit that the VIDEO in Biden's own words proves me right and you wrong.

I would admit it, but it is not the case, as my link proves.

Biden slams Trump response to coronavirus epidemic: This is no time for “fearmongering”

Former Vice President Joe Biden hammered President Trump for cutting health programs amid an outbreak of the coronavirus that originated in China and has since spread to the U.S.

thehill.com

NO NO NO your "link" is <<<<SPIN>>>> on the truth. My video is Biden's own words.
My video beats your "link". Thanks for playing.

 

[easyt65]

Deflecting justified criticism away from himself isn't the Biogot-in-Chief's only motivation for going after the WHO.

Trump Attacks W.H.O. Over Criticisms of U.S. Approach to Coronavirus
In effect, the president sought to blame the group for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration.

Trump Attacks W.H.O. Over Criticisms of U.S. Approach to Coronavirus (Published 2020)

In effect, the president sought to blame the group for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration.

www.nytimes.com

WASHINGTON — President Trump lashed out on Tuesday at the World Health Organization, choosing a new political enemy to attack and threatening to withhold funding from a premier health institution even as a deadly virus ravages nations around the globe.

“We’re going to put a hold on money spent to the W.H.O. We’re going to put a very powerful hold on it and we’re going to see,” Mr. Trump said during the daily coronavirus briefing at the White House, accusing the organization of having not been aggressive enough in confronting the virus. “They called it wrong. They call it wrong. They really, they missed the call.”

In effect, Mr. Trump sought to denounce the W.H.O. for the very missteps and failures that have been leveled at him and his administration. Public health experts have said the president’s public denials of the virus’s dangers slowed the American response, which included delayed testing and a failure to stockpile protective gear.

Damn, if you are not one little 'China/WHO-bitch'......

China knew about the pandemic start in Nov 2019, hid it, refused to contain it by halting international travel, facilitated the spread of the pandemic, refused to let the CDC in, refused to share critical time-sensitive information ('time = lives save'), and put as much effort into ramping up their political propaganda machine to blame the US and attempt to convince the US military is responsible for the origination of the virus....

The WHO knew all of this, refused to call the virus epidemic a global threat even though they KNEW China was engaging in all of this false reporting, hiding, lying, etc..... they KNEW time lost = lives lost and still did NOTHING to the Chinese - no rebuke, condemnation, NOTHING......KNEW weeks earlier that the proverbial shit was about to hit the fan because they learned China had been allowing infected citizens travel to other nations and STILL told countries NOT to close their borders while at the same time advising them that screening for symptoms should be initiated / going on....

Yeah, while his administration is fully engaged in fighting this pandemic and protecting America, he is simultaneously calling pout both China and the WHO for failing to take steps early on that would have prevented the global spread of the pandemic and would have saved lives. (It's called -'multi-tasking' - something Dems claim Trump and his team can't do, when we all know the Democrats proved they are the ones who can not do so by going all-in so much on their coup attempt that they failed to have 1 single meeting on the growing pandemic....even in the weeks after the House Impeachment as they held the report from the Senate.

The same losers who are criticizing the President now for his 'failed early actions' can't bear to admit that their own politicians were horrifically even more inept / wrong for opposing the actions he did take that they even now admit were the right thing to do.


All you are is a 'HATER'. All you contribute is distortions, distractions, half-truths, lies, division, and partisan hate in the midst of a crisis the likes that used to bring Americans together ... until Democrats made the self-serving political choice to 'never let a crisis go to waste'.


.

Frustration with your inability to make a factual argument supporting your position has lead you to the use of gratuitous insults and more unsubstantiated allegations. Not to mention a regurgitation of erroneous things you've said previously.

In short, you have not made your case.

OTOH, a quick review of recent news articles covering Trump's attacks on the WHO proves mine. Better luck next time.

Pence Claims Trump Took COVID-19 Threat More Seriously Than World Health Org
In a clear effort to give cover to President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence on Wednesday night accused the...
talkingpointsmemo.com

Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee calls for WHO chief to testify
“I’ve been ... outraged by the responsiveness and the performance of the World Health Organization," Sen. Todd Young says.

www.politico.com

Trump blames WHO for getting coronavirus pandemic wrong, threatens to withhold funding
"They really called, I would say, every aspect of it wrong," Trump said of the World Health Organization on Tuesday.

www.cnbc.com

You seem to have a problem with the US government investigating possible deceit and partisan acts that put the entire world - who entrusts them to show no favoritism when it comes to protecting all people - in jeopardy.

You seem to want the President and his administration to turn a blind eye to the facts and just continue to rely on the WHO without question - while paying the vast 'lion's share' of their budget compared to China and other nations.

If I am not mistaken, you opposed Trump's Trade War with China, resulting in an awesome trade deal, better than we had before. You /other snowflakes preferred to remain China's 'bitch' .

Why are you so afraid of America's greater independence instead of forced reliance / compliance / servitude to other nations who make to attempt to hide the fact that they wish us harm and to those who kow-tow to those nations?

If you prefer to go along with the status quo and keep being the rest of the world's, UN's bitch, this is definitely NOT the President for you.

 

[NotYourBody]

Trump blames WHO for getting coronavirus pandemic wrong, threatens to withhold funding

Trump blames WHO for getting coronavirus pandemic wrong, threatens to withhold funding

"They really called, I would say, every aspect of it wrong," Trump said of the World Health Organization on Tuesday.

www.cnbc.com

President Donald Trump blamed the World Health Organization for getting “every aspect” of the coronavirus pandemic wrong and threatened to withhold funding from the international organization.
................................................................................................
The sad truth is Trump got “every aspect” of the coronavirus pandemic wrong. Even sadder, Trumpleton's will lap up the deflection like an alcoholic laps up Jack Daniels.

The WHO is just doing what its communist master tells them. Red China developed the virus and it got away from them. It doesn't matter if they did it intentionally or accidentally. They lied about it and covered it up as long as they could. Their secrecy is what prevented the other countries that were eventually infected from preparing. The bottom line is you can't trust dog eating communists with anything. The world should shun them assholes.

I agree. But Trump loves the commies. Putin, Xi, Kim. So there's not likely to be any shunning soon.

 

[Lesh]

Millions predicted dead in America at the beginning. Today's prediction 60,000.dead. Trump is the man!

That is a fucking lie.

Millions was projected by the WHITE HOUSE...LAST WEEK...if we didn't lock down and stay locked down. 100,000 was the WH projection if we did everything right.

As far as 60,00 dead or 100,000 dead...you see a big difference?

They are both projections and they are both horrific

 

[berg80]

You seem to have a problem with the US government investigating possible deceit and partisan acts that put the entire world - who entrusts them to show no favoritism when it comes to protecting all people - in jeopardy.

I get that you are hellbent to keep the topic of conversation on the WHO. In that regard you are completely aligned with Trump's efforts to deflect attention away from his own failings.

Hence the subject of the thread, the admin's search for a scapegoat (it's over now that they have identified the WHO as the target). One you studiously avoid.

 

[NotYourBody]

So let's get this straight..... the USA had a Doctor Scientist position with the WHO at their China base, so that we could keep an eye on china and the viruses coming out of there, to keep the USA abreast of what was going on over there and not let china lie to us about any outbreaks

But President Trump, in 2018, removed that person because he claims he ran out of money to keep the person there or simply did not believe in it...

And now he is blaming the WHO? Instead of himself, for letting this very very important position being dropped by HIM?

Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak

Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters has learned.

www.reuters.com

"The first cases of the new coronavirus may have emerged as early as November, and as cases exploded, the Trump administration in February chastised China for censoring information about the outbreak and keeping U.S. experts from entering the country to help. "

So whether we send doctors or have one sitting in Beijing, the chicoms wouldn't let them near the quarantined area anyway. So this "issue" is a nothingburger, Trump saved the taxpayers from a wasted position.

Except that axed doctor had relationships in China. He was in a position to get information not readily available to U.S. strangers.

 

[easyt65]

Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak

Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters has learned.

www.reuters.com

It took me all of 15 seconds to find that link. See how easy it is to find the truth if you are looking for it?

From your own posted article link:


"In a statement to Reuters before the report was published, the CDC said the elimination of the adviser position did not hinder Washington’s ability to get information and “had absolutely nothing to do with CDC not learning of cases in China earlier.”

The agency said its decision not to have a resident adviser “started well before last summer and was due to China’s excellent technical capability and maturity of the program.”

If anything, it seems the US was duped by the Chicom's deception and lies, hiding the facts while giving the perception that they knew what the hell they were doing. Since they ignored 2015 warnings of problems that might result in a leak in the future and since we are in the middle of a Chinese Virus global pandemic now, I would say their 'technical capability' and 'program maturity' sucks!


"One disease expert told Reuters he was skeptical that the U.S. resident adviser would have been able to get earlier or better information to the Trump administration, given the Chinese government’s suppression of information.

“In the end, based on circumstances in China, it probably wouldn’t have made a big difference”

I know your failure to add that part was purely accidental....

 

[berg80]

Millions predicted dead in America at the beginning. Today's prediction 60,000.dead. Trump is the man!

That is a fucking lie.

Millions was projected by the WHITE HOUSE...LAST WEEK...if we didn't lock down and stay locked down. 100,000 was the WH projection if we did everything right.

As far as 60,00 dead or 100,000 dead...you see a big difference?

They are both projections and they are both horrific

Thanks for the help my friend. It's hard to keep up with all the lies they tell by myself.

 

[kyzr]

1. Democrats first said that trump was xenophobic for stopping flights from China
"Yes joe did call trump's travel ban xenophobic"

How are we ever going to be able to have a fact based debate when you keep repeating that lie?

Former Vice President Joe Biden hammered President Trump for cutting health programs amid an outbreak of the coronavirus that originated in China and has since spread to the U.S.

“We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus,” Biden said in Iowa Friday. “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia - hysterical xenophobia - and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

Biden slams Trump response to coronavirus epidemic: This is no time for “fearmongering”

Former Vice President Joe Biden hammered President Trump for cutting health programs amid an outbreak of the coronavirus that originated in China and has since spread to the U.S.

thehill.com

Even if the "travel bans" actually were travel bans, which they weren't..........preventing infected people from returning to the US, which they didn't.................or were carried out in an efficient way so people didn't slip through the cracks, which they weren't...................................................................they were not nearly enough to stop the virus from spreading here. Travel bans can't stop this pandemic

Somehow, despite evidence to the contrary, Trumpette's have come to believe that putting ineffectual travel bans in place excuses Trump for letting the country down by failing to adequately prepare us for the outbreak all the experts told him was coming..........while he dithered.

Further, they think lying about the Dem's reaction to the bans is some sort of magical justification for Trump's negligence. It isn't.

1. It is NOT a lie that Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic". That is a FACT.

After attacking Trump's coronavirus-related China travel ban as xenophobic, Dems and media have changed tune

Within hours of President Trump's decision to restrict travel from China on January 31, top Democrats and media figures immediately derided the move as unnecessary and xenophobic -- and they are now beating a hasty retreat from that position as the coronavirus continues to ravage the economy and...

www.foxnews.com

"Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden led the way, quickly attacking what he called Trump's "record of hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering" after the travel restrictions were announced..."
2. The Trump travel bans were effective, Chinese nationals were banned, and US citizens were allowed home but they had to quarantine for 2-weeks. Look at the EU for comparison. Their travel ban was late.
3. Biden would NOT have implemented the travel ban, therefore accelerating the US infection rate to at least that of the EU. EPIC FAIL, many more dead Americans, so now they switch to support Trump's travel ban.
4. Your other tap dancing doesn't change the FACT that Biden was WRONG about the travel ban, as Gates said, Biden hasn't been right about anything in over 40-years.

On point 1:
kyzr time and time again we have asked you to look at the whole video and it is clear that Biden didn't say closing borders was hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering... He said when a guy who has a history of hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering does it, it doesn't build trust. He then said he would make the decision on scientific evidence... Trump didn't do say that when he was imposing the ban. Trump was looking for the fight from people, it is Trump's way of creating division, if he said that he took Scientific advise from (name a scientist who will back you up) and we agree it would be best to close the border... Now you got all of America on side not just your supporters..

2.
Sorry I showed his ban was not effective and Europe was were US got the virus mostly... The Airlines had already stopped flights, so he was banning something that was not happening... Sorry, but Trump could look out see a sunny day and then ban rain...

3. Proof... Have you any?

4. You can't make that assumption and the ban didn't make any difference... There was no flights anyway.

1. We're discussing the Trump travel ban from China, where Chinese are banned, but Americans can come home subject to quarantine. I provided this link to prove my point.

After attacking Trump's coronavirus-related China travel ban as xenophobic, Dems and media have changed tune

Within hours of President Trump's decision to restrict travel from China on January 31, top Democrats and media figures immediately derided the move as unnecessary and xenophobic -- and they are now beating a hasty retreat from that position as the coronavirus continues to ravage the economy and...

www.foxnews.com

2. You're wrong. Otherwise there would be no xenophobe argument about China. Many flights were cancelled.

3. Biden called the China travel ban xenophobic, that is proof he would not have imposed them.

4. Not banning flights from China as Biden originally said, would have allowed thousands more infected Chinese into the US, that is a simple fact.

 

[easyt65]

I get that you are hellbent to keep the topic of conversation on the WHO. In that regard you are completely aligned with Trump's efforts to deflect attention away from his own failings.

And I get in a thread about 'an endless search for scapegoats' you want to ignore all of the facts, storylines, reports, etc... that DOESN'T focus on criticizing and attacking the President.....much like what Democrats did when he imposed the China Travel Ban and called him Xenophobic for doing so at the time.

 

[easyt65]

Thanks for the help my friend. It's hard to keep up with all the lies they tell by myself.

It's hard to keep up with your own lies....

 

[jknowgood]

Millions predicted dead in America at the beginning. Today's prediction 60,000.dead. Trump is the man!

That is a fucking lie.

Millions was projected by the WHITE HOUSE...LAST WEEK...if we didn't lock down and stay locked down. 100,000 was the WH projection if we did everything right.

As far as 60,00 dead or 100,000 dead...you see a big difference?

They are both projections and they are both horrific

Nope,sorry they first came out with millions to die. That's why the shut down. So Trump saved us from an epidemic. You underestimated Trump again, i think you loons want Trump to get 4 more years!

 

[jknowgood]

Millions predicted dead in America at the beginning. Today's prediction 60,000.dead. Trump is the man!

That is a fucking lie.

Millions was projected by the WHITE HOUSE...LAST WEEK...if we didn't lock down and stay locked down. 100,000 was the WH projection if we did everything right.

As far as 60,00 dead or 100,000 dead...you see a big difference?

They are both projections and they are both horrific

Thanks for the help my friend. It's hard to keep up with all the lies they tell by myself.

March 17 is when they came out with up to 2 million deaths, not last week.

 

[kyzr]

So let's get this straight..... the USA had a Doctor Scientist position with the WHO at their China base, so that we could keep an eye on china and the viruses coming out of there, to keep the USA abreast of what was going on over there and not let china lie to us about any outbreaks

But President Trump, in 2018, removed that person because he claims he ran out of money to keep the person there or simply did not believe in it...

And now he is blaming the WHO? Instead of himself, for letting this very very important position being dropped by HIM?

Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak

Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters has learned.

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"The first cases of the new coronavirus may have emerged as early as November, and as cases exploded, the Trump administration in February chastised China for censoring information about the outbreak and keeping U.S. experts from entering the country to help. "

So whether we send doctors or have one sitting in Beijing, the chicoms wouldn't let them near the quarantined area anyway. So this "issue" is a nothingburger, Trump saved the taxpayers from a wasted position.

Except that axed doctor had relationships in China. He was in a position to get information not readily available to U.S. strangers.

WOW!! You have great insights! Except that it was a female not a "he", so stop playing the bullshit card, dufus.