P@triot

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The entire left-wing narrative about firearms is a lie. It’s all built on a political agenda rather than on data.
The report states that investigators posing online as gun buyers who were not legally able to purchase a firearm were completely unsuccessful when attempting to purchase firearms from private sellers. In fact, the report states that investigators tried 72 times — and each time they failed.
That’s right - 0% of the ATF investigators were able to make an illegal purchase. Not even one.

Investigators test how well gun laws work online — and find shocking results that undermine liberals
 
The 2nd Amendment can be definitively paraphrased thus: The individual states have a right to defend themselves through maintenance of state militias. That being said, the Declaration of Independence acknowledges that individuals have an inalienable right to protect themselves. Unless/until the government can guarantee their personal safety, individuals have an inherent right to defend themselves by any reasonable means.

P.S. I don't give a shit how some judge "interprets" the plain language of these documents.
 
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Since all amendments of the Bill of Rights are restrictions on the federal government, it does not matter why the federal government is denied any weapons jurisdiction. It clearly is, and the BATF likely should be totally disbanded. Weapons legally must be only up to the states to regulate. Federal firearms regulations are all inherently illegal. And this is from a liberal perspective as well. It is just a question of reading the law and understanding jurisdiction. There is no basis for federal firearms laws except for import and export.
 
Every single day in America, citizens exercising their 2nd Amendment rights protect themselves, their property, and save the lives of others...
Juan Jose Caraballo, 70, was inside his Orlando, Florida, home when two armed men broke in just before 5 p.m. Wednesday, Orange County Sheriff’s officials told WKMG-TV.

But it turned out that the owner of the home they were trying to burglarize also owns a gun. Caraballo used it, too, deputies told the station. One of the men who broke in died in the shooting, deputies told the station, while the second intruder ran off through the back door.
A citizen (of any nation) has an unalienable right to defend themselves.

Gunmen break into 70-year-old man’s home. But victim has a gun, too — and one intruder pays dearly.
 
The entire left-wing narrative about firearms is a lie. It’s all built on a political agenda rather than on data.
The report states that investigators posing online as gun buyers who were not legally able to purchase a firearm were completely unsuccessful when attempting to purchase firearms from private sellers. In fact, the report states that investigators tried 72 times — and each time they failed.
That’s right - 0% of the ATF investigators were able to make an illegal purchase. Not even one.

Investigators test how well gun laws work online — and find shocking results that undermine liberals
Did you read the actual report or just the partisan Blaze article?

This is from the report that was referenced in your OP's blaze article. Tip - Always check your sources when you are looking at partisan puff pieces. There is too much fake news out there.

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GAO agents attempted to purchase firearms from Dark Web and Surface Web marketplaces. Agents made seven attempts to purchase firearms on the Dark Web. In these attempts, agents did not disclose any information about whether they were prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of these seven attempts, two on a Dark Web marketplace were successful. Specifically, GAO agents purchased and received an AR-15 rifle and an Uzi that the seller said was modified so that it would fire automatically. GAO provided referral letters to applicable law enforcement agencies for these purchases to inform any ongoing investigations.

Tests performed on the Surface Web demonstrated that private sellers GAO contacted on gun forums and other classified ads were unwilling to sell a firearm to an individual who appeared to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of the 72 attempts agents made to purchase firearms on the Surface Web, 56 sellers refused to complete a transaction: 29 sellers stated they would not ship a firearm and 27 refused after the disclosure of the undercover identities’ stated prohibited status. Furthermore, in 5 of these 72 attempts, the accounts GAO set up were frozen by the websites, which prevented the agents from using the forums and attempting to make a purchase.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/688535.pdf
 
The entire left-wing narrative about firearms is a lie. It’s all built on a political agenda rather than on data.
The report states that investigators posing online as gun buyers who were not legally able to purchase a firearm were completely unsuccessful when attempting to purchase firearms from private sellers. In fact, the report states that investigators tried 72 times — and each time they failed.
That’s right - 0% of the ATF investigators were able to make an illegal purchase. Not even one.

Investigators test how well gun laws work online — and find shocking results that undermine liberals
Did you read the actual report or just the partisan Blaze article?
The truth is not partisan, chief. I did read the actual report. It said exactly what The Blaze reported.
 
The entire left-wing narrative about firearms is a lie. It’s all built on a political agenda rather than on data.
The report states that investigators posing online as gun buyers who were not legally able to purchase a firearm were completely unsuccessful when attempting to purchase firearms from private sellers. In fact, the report states that investigators tried 72 times — and each time they failed.
That’s right - 0% of the ATF investigators were able to make an illegal purchase. Not even one.

Investigators test how well gun laws work online — and find shocking results that undermine liberals
Did you read the actual report or just the partisan Blaze article?
The truth is not partisan, chief. I did read the actual report. It said exactly what The Blaze reported.
I just posted findings from the actual report that contradicts what you said in your OP.
 
Firearm ownership is none the of the federal governments business, Just like other people’s firearm ownership is none of your business
 
Interesting... should gun control be a States issue as well then?
Well yes....and....no. You have an absolute right to keep and bear arms. If individual states want to form legislation regarding firearms - that’s fine so long as those laws do not impede our right to keep and bear arms.
 
Amen. Just like abortion is none of your business. Right?
Uh...no. The taking of a human life is absolutely the business of society.
Well I guess that’s the debate. You don’t think every teenager that beats it into a tube sock should be convicted of mass murder do ya? Gotta find out where that line is
That line is clearly and indisputably when sperm meets egg. Science has proven it.
 
Amen. Just like abortion is none of your business. Right?
Uh...no. The taking of a human life is absolutely the business of society.
Well I guess that’s the debate. You don’t think every teenager that beats it into a tube sock should be convicted of mass murder do ya? Gotta find out where that line is
That line is clearly and indisputably when sperm meets egg. Science has proven it.
So morning after pill is murder then in your opinion?
 
So morning after pill is murder then in your opinion?
Well that depends. The morning after, no one can tell if they are pregnant. We don't have any tests so we don't know. If the person isn't pregnant - then taking the morning pill obviously isn't murder. If they are pregnant - then yes - that is absolutely murder.
 

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