The best thing libertarians can do right now is support Republicans

[kaz]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

What is a Libertarian?

Do they (libertarians) agree that a child's Constitutional rights should begin when their life does?

A "Libertarian" is a member of the Libertarian Party. I'm a libertarian. Meaning I support the ideology and not specifically the party. Though I have voted for the party four times for President.

More libertarians are pro-choice than pro-life, but there are libertarians on both sides of the issue

Do
Libertarians
Agree
That
A
Child's
Constitutional
Rights
Should
Begin
When
Their
Life
Does?

You're going to have to help me with what you're looking for because I thought I directly answered your question. There is no universal libertarian position on abortion. The majority of libertarians are pro-choice, but many are pro-life. What is it you're looking for beyond that?

My question did not mention abortion.

They always do

Nope.

It is a more fundamental question than just that.

If you told us what the question was, would you have to kill us?

Your deflections reveal a great deal of ignorance on your part.

Your talk of libertarianism is just a bunch of pap if you can't even afford to take a stand on the rights of children to the equal protections of our laws.

You really are a dick. You'll never persuade anyone if you're like that to people who are trying to converse with you

 

[kaz]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Hell. No. Trump is the polar opposite of libertarian.

Yea but libertarians will vote for trump don’t worry. Libertarians are just cons who’ve been let down by republicans too much to say they are republicans.

People who call themselves libertarians, yet vote Republican aren't libertarians - big L or otherwise, they're just Republicans who don't want to admit they're Republicans.

LO2E is fraud.

Voting for ANYONE other than Trump is playing Russian Roulette with our nation. Your personal values won't save you from a radical take over of our nation.

Listen, I don't believe you, but if voting for Trump IS the only way to "save" our nation - then we are already hopelessly fucked.

Listen, if Trump loses we will essentially be on a Waterpark slide ride getting tossed all around as radical policies are implemented by the Biden administration.

Or

Trump wins and we at least slow the Rollercoaster to hell

I think Trump is actually destroying things even faster than Biden will. He's just pushing us off a different cliff. For fuck's sake, look around. They're both bad for the country. Voting for either of them is a betrayal.

You look at what Democrats are doing to our cities when they aren't even in the White House and think they will be better? You're completely delusional

I didn't say that, so the delusion is yours. I'm voting against Democrats. I'm just not voting for Trump.

Of course you said that, you said Trump is worse than the Democrats

 

[dblack]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Hell. No. Trump is the polar opposite of libertarian.

Yea but libertarians will vote for trump don’t worry. Libertarians are just cons who’ve been let down by republicans too much to say they are republicans.

People who call themselves libertarians, yet vote Republican aren't libertarians - big L or otherwise, they're just Republicans who don't want to admit they're Republicans.

LO2E is fraud.

Voting for ANYONE other than Trump is playing Russian Roulette with our nation. Your personal values won't save you from a radical take over of our nation.

Listen, I don't believe you, but if voting for Trump IS the only way to "save" our nation - then we are already hopelessly fucked.

Listen, if Trump loses we will essentially be on a Waterpark slide ride getting tossed all around as radical policies are implemented by the Biden administration.

Or

Trump wins and we at least slow the Rollercoaster to hell

I think Trump is actually destroying things even faster than Biden will. He's just pushing us off a different cliff. For fuck's sake, look around. They're both bad for the country. Voting for either of them is a betrayal.

You look at what Democrats are doing to our cities when they aren't even in the White House and think they will be better? You're completely delusional

I didn't say that, so the delusion is yours. I'm voting against Democrats. I'm just not voting for Trump.

Of course you said that, you said Trump is worse than the Democrats

Nope. I said he's destroying things faster. But the main thing you're missing here is that it's irrelevant to me which is worse. They're both bad, and I don't do LO2E.

 

[kaz]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

imo they should vote a libertarian. As I did in 16. I agree with the libertarians on social issues, but less so on economic … though I favor some form of budget balanced requirement. But I don't see with either party brings to the table in this election.

I never found Biden to be offensive. As a moderate dem he's more inclined to address deficts that the gop, which at this point in time has only an ideology that tax cuts spur growth …. which they did, but not to the degree the gop said they would, and they increased the deficit even while Trump spent more more more.

The Democrats want another $3.5 TRILLION in spending, most of it for Marxist ideology. Biden is promising $2 Trillion for green new deal. Most of it for socialist spending. The rest for technology that we aren't capable of yet. You're worried about deficits ... and Trump? You're just lying, that's insane.

And more to the point, my point is about way more than spending. The Democrats are bat shit crazy. We can't walk safely in the streets of Democrat cities anymore and they want to go national with that

Their Marxist take over didn’t happen overnight. People just ignored it. Now look at who runs our Schools, Big corporations ,Media , Entertainment etc...

I’m afraid you are preaching to the choir. Libertarians Will hopefully vote for Republican’s...but I doubt it.

They will just bitch about being ruled by Marxists later.

I think that's true for the hard core libertarians. They like to lose to feel smug and superior. I consider the majority of libertarians to already be in the Republican party. I think there are also a lot of libertarians like me who don't belong to any party but feel lost every time we look at both the Republican party and the Libertarian party.

I just think that the Democrat party has become virulently evil to the point I can't pretend the parties are the same anymore

I consider the majority of libertarians to be "in" the Libertarian Party, if they support a party at all. Libertarians who vote for Republicans are Republicans. They just don't want to admit it.

The Libertarian Party is tiny. There are many people who support small government. And the Libertarian Party is great at turning them off. You don't know what you're talking about. The Tea Party was based on people who are fiscally conservative and don't think government should really be involved in social issues and that we overuse our military. That's libertarian leaning already

 

[kaz]

When does their life begin?

Logic dictates that a new, genetically unique life begins at conception. At that point, a human with it's own DNA begins its journey through life. Logically speaking, it can be at no other point. Being unable to survive without assistance is not proof that something is dead.

I don't think that's an unreasonable definition, but I don't think it's the only reasonable answer either. At that point, it's just a cell mass. There is no consciousness. The start of conciousness is a reasonable definition as well. As is the ability to survive outside the womb. There is not just one reasonable answer

 

[dblack]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

imo they should vote a libertarian. As I did in 16. I agree with the libertarians on social issues, but less so on economic … though I favor some form of budget balanced requirement. But I don't see with either party brings to the table in this election.

I never found Biden to be offensive. As a moderate dem he's more inclined to address deficts that the gop, which at this point in time has only an ideology that tax cuts spur growth …. which they did, but not to the degree the gop said they would, and they increased the deficit even while Trump spent more more more.

The Democrats want another $3.5 TRILLION in spending, most of it for Marxist ideology. Biden is promising $2 Trillion for green new deal. Most of it for socialist spending. The rest for technology that we aren't capable of yet. You're worried about deficits ... and Trump? You're just lying, that's insane.

And more to the point, my point is about way more than spending. The Democrats are bat shit crazy. We can't walk safely in the streets of Democrat cities anymore and they want to go national with that

Their Marxist take over didn’t happen overnight. People just ignored it. Now look at who runs our Schools, Big corporations ,Media , Entertainment etc...

I’m afraid you are preaching to the choir. Libertarians Will hopefully vote for Republican’s...but I doubt it.

They will just bitch about being ruled by Marxists later.

I think that's true for the hard core libertarians. They like to lose to feel smug and superior. I consider the majority of libertarians to already be in the Republican party. I think there are also a lot of libertarians like me who don't belong to any party but feel lost every time we look at both the Republican party and the Libertarian party.

I just think that the Democrat party has become virulently evil to the point I can't pretend the parties are the same anymore

I consider the majority of libertarians to be "in" the Libertarian Party, if they support a party at all. Libertarians who vote for Republicans are Republicans. They just don't want to admit it.

The Libertarian Party is tiny. There are many people who support small government. And the Libertarian Party is great at turning them off. You don't know what you're talking about. The Tea Party was based on people who are fiscally conservative and don't think government should really be involved in social issues and that we overuse our military. That's libertarian leaning already

Trump is not the Tea Party. He's not fiscally conservative. He's an authoritarian, the opposite of libertarian. If I voted for him, it would be a lie.

 

[kaz]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

C'mon, you can beg me better than that. And put some real BEG! into it.

There's no begging in it at all. I don't even know what you're talking about. You just seem to be an empty headed chick. You're better off in your case letting your husband think for you, you're a boob. I hope you're hot. The only way you're making a living is on your back

You're a fraidy pants so you're begging for help.

OK

 

[kaz]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

C'mon, you can beg me better than that. And put some real BEG! into it.

There's no begging in it at all. I don't even know what you're talking about. You just seem to be an empty headed chick. You're better off in your case letting your husband think for you, you're a boob. I hope you're hot. The only way you're making a living is on your back

You're a fraidy pants so you're begging for help.

I’ve been seeing Democrats on Twitter and Youtube attacking Libertarians for not supporting them. I’m thinking Democrats see Libertarians as closer to themselves than Republicans? I’m wondering if it’s because they have come out for defunding the police. At any rate they definitely think Libertarians would be in their camp.

Contrary to what dblack the Democrat suck up says, Democrats are the polar opposite of libertarians.

Also, not sure what you mean on defunding the police, but anarchists would be for that. Libertarians are pretty law and order. Police is one of the few legitimate functions of government

 

[Dick Foster]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

I am but only because the Democrats have gotten so dangerous and completly outta their heads with utter nonesense and stupidity.

 

[dblack]

Contrary to what dblack the Democrat suck up says ...

Fuck you very much!

Libertarians are pretty law and order. Police is one of the few legitimate functions of government

You got something right! Better not make a habit of it, or people will start calling you names.

 

[Oddball]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Spot on assessment of the LP...I left entirely after they completely lost their minds in the post-Browne era.

But I can't possibly bring myself to shift back to the statist side of things to support republicans....Being a lesser evil still means that they're evil.

I voted Republican once after 1988, so I feel you. But Democrats now are trying to bring about the complete collapse of our society. Destroying our economy, paying people specifically more to not work than work. And turning our cities into crime ridden war zones. I lived in New York City many years and it's distressing what I'm hearing about daily life there. You have to go somewhere, you high tail it and keep a low profile and pray. I loved New York. It's awful to hear what it's become. And that's happening across the country.

Being not that is way more than just being the the lesser of two evils

Democrats are bringing about the collapse by airliner, while the republicans take Route 66....The totalitarian destination remains the same.

Karen Ann Quinlan is just as dead on life support as off.

I agree with that. But at this point I'm just hoping to keep my freedom a couple more decades before I keel over. I consider us doomed. I rue my children and their children's fate, but I can do nothing about that

And that's your call...More power to you for it.

I've already given up on the notion that I can somehow remain free by exercising a "choice" over who my tyrannical oppressor will be.

That isn't actually what I said. I agreed with you that Republicans are on the same road but slower. Now you're changing it back to that they are going the same speed and it's just a choice of oppressor. I also agreed we are not on the path to remain free, that's no longer in contention. I'm not clear how this is a rational response to where we were headed.

Again, my goal is just to not outlive my freedom. Democrats are tearing it all down now

I'm not changing it....Republicans are oppressors in granny gear....They suck on toast, and choosing them over democrats on the basis that their slow rolling despotism is any kind of a bargain is a false dichotomy.

 

[kaz]

No, Libertarians nor libertarians don't need to support Republicans. They need to coalesce themselves to enter the fray as a viable alternative. But, in all honesty, the hard core are as idiotic as Democrats and Republicans when it comes to arguing amongst themselves- and, besides that Republicans haven't proven themselves any better at being less evil than Democrats- evil is evil, the degree is immaterial. Same destination, different rate of descent is still hitting a brick wall- 99 mph vs 100 mph is still devestating.

Voters should, IMNSHO vote ANTI- ENCUMBENT EVERY ELECTION. Period.

I addressed this is in the OP. It used to be 99 versus 100. It no longer is. The streets aren't even safe, which is one of the few legitimate functions of government. You can't look at AOC, Pelosi, Minneapolis, Portland and Seattle and say if the Democrats are 100, then the Republicans are 99 anymore

 

[kaz]

Libertarians always support Republicans

And they always say, “I’m not a Republican” fucking liars.

What ever happened to tea baggers?

You're trying to figure out what to do with your Saturday night?

 

[dblack]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

I am but only because the Democrats have gotten so dangerous and completly outta their heads with utter nonesense and stupidity.

It doesn't matter what your excuses are. Your excuses won't be recorded. The only thing that will matter is who you voted FOR. With a vote you're saying: "I approve of this candidate. Please give us more of the same."

 

[kaz]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

imo they should vote a libertarian. As I did in 16. I agree with the libertarians on social issues, but less so on economic … though I favor some form of budget balanced requirement. But I don't see with either party brings to the table in this election.

I never found Biden to be offensive. As a moderate dem he's more inclined to address deficts that the gop, which at this point in time has only an ideology that tax cuts spur growth …. which they did, but not to the degree the gop said they would, and they increased the deficit even while Trump spent more more more.

The Democrats want another $3.5 TRILLION in spending, most of it for Marxist ideology. Biden is promising $2 Trillion for green new deal. Most of it for socialist spending. The rest for technology that we aren't capable of yet. You're worried about deficits ... and Trump? You're just lying, that's insane.

And more to the point, my point is about way more than spending. The Democrats are bat shit crazy. We can't walk safely in the streets of Democrat cities anymore and they want to go national with that

Their Marxist take over didn’t happen overnight. People just ignored it. Now look at who runs our Schools, Big corporations ,Media , Entertainment etc...

I’m afraid you are preaching to the choir. Libertarians Will hopefully vote for Republican’s...but I doubt it.

They will just bitch about being ruled by Marxists later.

I think that's true for the hard core libertarians. They like to lose to feel smug and superior. I consider the majority of libertarians to already be in the Republican party. I think there are also a lot of libertarians like me who don't belong to any party but feel lost every time we look at both the Republican party and the Libertarian party.

I just think that the Democrat party has become virulently evil to the point I can't pretend the parties are the same anymore

I consider the majority of libertarians to be "in" the Libertarian Party, if they support a party at all. Libertarians who vote for Republicans are Republicans. They just don't want to admit it.

The Libertarian Party is tiny. There are many people who support small government. And the Libertarian Party is great at turning them off. You don't know what you're talking about. The Tea Party was based on people who are fiscally conservative and don't think government should really be involved in social issues and that we overuse our military. That's libertarian leaning already

Trump is not the Tea Party. He's not fiscally conservative. He's an authoritarian, the opposite of libertarian. If I voted for him, it would be a lie.

I agree he's not a tea partier, but where do you get authoritarian? Don't use talking points, use actual examples

 

[kaz]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

I am but only because the Democrats have gotten so dangerous and completly outta their heads with utter nonesense and stupidity.

That's what I'm asking. I didn't vote for Trump the first time. I voted Republican once in the last seven elections

 

[kaz]

Contrary to what dblack the Democrat suck up says ...

Fuck you very much!

Libertarians are pretty law and order. Police is one of the few legitimate functions of government

You got something right! Better not make a habit of it, or people will start calling you names.

You made me laugh ...

 

[bendog]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

imo they should vote a libertarian. As I did in 16. I agree with the libertarians on social issues, but less so on economic … though I favor some form of budget balanced requirement. But I don't see with either party brings to the table in this election.

I never found Biden to be offensive. As a moderate dem he's more inclined to address deficts that the gop, which at this point in time has only an ideology that tax cuts spur growth …. which they did, but not to the degree the gop said they would, and they increased the deficit even while Trump spent more more more.

The Democrats want another $3.5 TRILLION in spending, most of it for Marxist ideology. Biden is promising $2 Trillion for green new deal. Most of it for socialist spending. The rest for technology that we aren't capable of yet. You're worried about deficits ... and Trump? You're just lying, that's insane.

And more to the point, my point is about way more than spending. The Democrats are bat shit crazy. We can't walk safely in the streets of Democrat cities anymore and they want to go national with that

Their Marxist take over didn’t happen overnight. People just ignored it. Now look at who runs our Schools, Big corporations ,Media , Entertainment etc...

I’m afraid you are preaching to the choir. Libertarians Will hopefully vote for Republican’s...but I doubt it.

They will just bitch about being ruled by Marxists later.

I think that's true for the hard core libertarians. They like to lose to feel smug and superior. I consider the majority of libertarians to already be in the Republican party. I think there are also a lot of libertarians like me who don't belong to any party but feel lost every time we look at both the Republican party and the Libertarian party.

I just think that the Democrat party has become virulently evil to the point I can't pretend the parties are the same anymore

I consider the majority of libertarians to be "in" the Libertarian Party, if they support a party at all. Libertarians who vote for Republicans are Republicans. They just don't want to admit it.

Yeah there was a time when a principled libertarian could have voted for the gop in Pres election on principle, rather than … well, at least he's not as bad as ….this guy. I knew people back in Wyo in 1980 who voted for Reagan on that basis. I'm not sure can vote for perpetual deficits and keep his principles. Personally I was never convinced Reagan gave a damn about deficits or the debt, but that's why I didn't vote for him. BUT, to be fair to the memory of the man, he was only advocating deficits because of Russia, and he believed (correctly btw) that the CIA overestimated Russia's gnp and ability to keep up with an arms race with the US, and our econ grew, and there's didn't, with the emergence of the technological advances in information processing. It may well be that if he'd had a true ideological heir in the gop, the gop would not have come to believe in tax cuts just to cut taxes and pretend they were defunding social programs which had popular voter support.

 

[Oddball]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

What is a Libertarian?

Do they (libertarians) agree that a child's Constitutional rights should begin when their life does?

A "Libertarian" is a member of the Libertarian Party. I'm a libertarian. Meaning I support the ideology and not specifically the party. Though I have voted for the party four times for President.

More libertarians are pro-choice than pro-life, but there are libertarians on both sides of the issue

Do
Libertarians
Agree
That
A
Child's
Constitutional
Rights
Should
Begin
When
Their
Life
Does?

There are people on both sides of the issue....I came around to the full throated pro life side when Project Veritas demonstrated to me that the abortionists are complete heartless ghouls, who look upon fetuses with no more regard than the auto parts yard looks at old junkers....IOW. I was persuaded through compelling evidence.

Therefore, I strongly suggest that you folks the pro life movement put as much effort and energy in the direction of persuasion of fence sitters like me, as you do into the obstinate piety fro which y'all are renowned.

Can I get you to consider/ contemplate the differences between a "pro lifer" and someone (like me) who opposes abortions for reasons other than those typically given by "pro lifers?"

I can ask you to be more flexible in your approach, when it becomes clear that the one you're using doesn't work, no matter which sub-camp you're in, can't I?

You said that YOU were compelled by the facts and evidence.

Why then do you think it is unreasonable for me to expect others to be compelled by the same?

I don't think it's unreasonable at all...But you're going to persuade others by using their criteria and values, not merely by screaming yours louder, in the same way that the silly US tourist can't make the foreigner who doesn't speak English understand better by yelling it at them.

That requires a dialogue, rather than expecting others who could be swayed to your side to accept your premises as firmly and self-evidently as you do.

Not that such an approach is going to bear much fruit around this dump, I'm just sayin'.

 

[dblack]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

imo they should vote a libertarian. As I did in 16. I agree with the libertarians on social issues, but less so on economic … though I favor some form of budget balanced requirement. But I don't see with either party brings to the table in this election.

I never found Biden to be offensive. As a moderate dem he's more inclined to address deficts that the gop, which at this point in time has only an ideology that tax cuts spur growth …. which they did, but not to the degree the gop said they would, and they increased the deficit even while Trump spent more more more.

The Democrats want another $3.5 TRILLION in spending, most of it for Marxist ideology. Biden is promising $2 Trillion for green new deal. Most of it for socialist spending. The rest for technology that we aren't capable of yet. You're worried about deficits ... and Trump? You're just lying, that's insane.

And more to the point, my point is about way more than spending. The Democrats are bat shit crazy. We can't walk safely in the streets of Democrat cities anymore and they want to go national with that

Their Marxist take over didn’t happen overnight. People just ignored it. Now look at who runs our Schools, Big corporations ,Media , Entertainment etc...

I’m afraid you are preaching to the choir. Libertarians Will hopefully vote for Republican’s...but I doubt it.

They will just bitch about being ruled by Marxists later.

I think that's true for the hard core libertarians. They like to lose to feel smug and superior. I consider the majority of libertarians to already be in the Republican party. I think there are also a lot of libertarians like me who don't belong to any party but feel lost every time we look at both the Republican party and the Libertarian party.

I just think that the Democrat party has become virulently evil to the point I can't pretend the parties are the same anymore

I consider the majority of libertarians to be "in" the Libertarian Party, if they support a party at all. Libertarians who vote for Republicans are Republicans. They just don't want to admit it.

The Libertarian Party is tiny. There are many people who support small government. And the Libertarian Party is great at turning them off. You don't know what you're talking about. The Tea Party was based on people who are fiscally conservative and don't think government should really be involved in social issues and that we overuse our military. That's libertarian leaning already

Trump is not the Tea Party. He's not fiscally conservative. He's an authoritarian, the opposite of libertarian. If I voted for him, it would be a lie.

I agree he's not a tea partier, but where do you get authoritarian? Don't use talking points, use actual examples

Well, we could start with him sending in DHS to punish states that piss him off. Then, all the executive orders he's used to work around Congress. And his efforts to bully tech companies, or anyone else really, who won't kiss his ass. It also comes through in so many of his asinine comments where he assumes he can do anything he wants because he's the President. I don't know if those come from ignorance or malice, but it doesn't matter. He literally thinks, as President, he can just "go after" anyone or any group who opposes him. He's an authoritarian alright. He's in love with power.