"The Best Palestinian...is Either Dead or Gone"

[georgephillip]

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the outcome of a century long colonial occupation by Zionists and later Israel that would never have been successful without imperial backing by the British and US.

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"Rashid Khalidi, the Edward Said professor of modern Arab studies at Columbia University, in his book “The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonization and Resistance, 1917-2017' has meticulously documented this long project of colonization of Palestine..."

"'This is a unique colonialism that we’ve been subjected to where they have no use for us,' Khalidi quotes Said as having written. 'The best Palestinian for them,' Said wrote, 'is either dead or gone.'"

Zionism was born in the savage pogroms in Russia and Eastern Europe during the late 19th century and early 20th century, yet Britain's support for a Jewish homeland was always colored by anti-Semitism.

"The Jewish colonizers knew they needed an imperial patron to succeed and survive.

"Their first patron was Britain, which sent 100,000 troops to crush the Palestinian revolt of the 1930s and armed and trained Jewish militias known as the Haganah.

"The savage repression of that revolt included wholesale executions and aerial bombardment and left 10% of the adult male Arab population killed, wounded, imprisoned or exiled."

 

[JGalt]

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the outcome of a century long colonial occupation by Zionists and later Israel that would never have been successful without imperial backing by the British and US.

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"Rashid Khalidi, the Edward Said professor of modern Arab studies at Columbia University, in his book “The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonization and Resistance, 1917-2017' has meticulously documented this long project of colonization of Palestine..."

"'This is a unique colonialism that we’ve been subjected to where they have no use for us,' Khalidi quotes Said as having written. 'The best Palestinian for them,' Said wrote, 'is either dead or gone.'"

Zionism was born in the savage pogroms in Russia and Eastern Europe during the late 19th century and early 20th century, yet Britain's support for a Jewish homeland was always colored by anti-Semitism.

"The Jewish colonizers knew they needed an imperial patron to succeed and survive.

"Their first patron was Britain, which sent 100,000 troops to crush the Palestinian revolt of the 1930s and armed and trained Jewish militias known as the Haganah.

"The savage repression of that revolt included wholesale executions and aerial bombardment and left 10% of the adult male Arab population killed, wounded, imprisoned or exiled."

Once again...

"If you are so sure that " Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history," I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :

1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What were its borders?
3. What was its capital?
4. What were its major cities?
5. What constituted the basis of its economy?
6. What was its form of government?
7. Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
8. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
9. What was the language of the country of Palestine ?
10. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine ?
11. What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.
12. And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

You are lamenting the "low sinking" of a "once proud" nation. Please tell me, when exactly was that "nation" proud and what was it so proud of?"


Who Are the Palestinians?

 

[georgephillip]

"If you are so sure that " Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history," I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :

Ask Ze'ev:

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"Ze’ev Jabotinsky, the godfather of the right-wing ideology that has dominated Israel since 1977, an ideology openly embraced by Prime Ministers Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, Ariel Sharon, Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu, wrote bluntly in 1923: 'Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonized.

"That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of ‘Palestine’ into the ‘Land of Israel.'"

Are you arguing Palestine has never existed?

Have you read the Balfour Declaration?

 

[JGalt]

"If you are so sure that " Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history," I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :

Ask Ze'ev:

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"Ze’ev Jabotinsky, the godfather of the right-wing ideology that has dominated Israel since 1977, an ideology openly embraced by Prime Ministers Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, Ariel Sharon, Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu, wrote bluntly in 1923: 'Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonized.

"That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of ‘Palestine’ into the ‘Land of Israel.'"

Are you arguing Palestine has never existed?

Have you read the Balfour Declaration?

Don't care about any Palestinians. They need to GTFO and let Israel be Israel.

 

[georgephillip]

"If you are so sure that " Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history," I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :

Ask Ze'ev:

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"Ze’ev Jabotinsky, the godfather of the right-wing ideology that has dominated Israel since 1977, an ideology openly embraced by Prime Ministers Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, Ariel Sharon, Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu, wrote bluntly in 1923: 'Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonized.

"That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of ‘Palestine’ into the ‘Land of Israel.'"

Are you arguing Palestine has never existed?

Have you read the Balfour Declaration?

Don't care about any Palestinians. They need to GTFO and let Israel be Israel.

Don't care about any Palestinians. They need to GTFO and let Israel be Israel.

Israel is a racist, apartheid state that needs to go the way of White South Africa and the Third Reich:

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"The Israeli public is infected with racism.

"'Death to Arabs' is a popular chant at Israeli soccer matches.

"Jewish mobs and vigilantes, including thugs from right-wing youth groups such as Im Tirtzu, carry out indiscriminate acts of vandalism and violence against dissidents, Palestinians, Israeli Arabs and the hapless African immigrants who live crammed into the slums of Tel Aviv.

"Israel has promulgated a series of discriminatory laws against non-Jews that eerily resemble the racist Nuremberg Laws that disenfranchised Jews in Nazi Germany."

Haavara Agreement - Wikipedia

 

[georgephillip]

If billionaires have no right to exist, what about Israel? – Mondoweiss

"We have a grotesque and immoral distribution of wealth and income.

"Mike Bloomberg owns more wealth than the bottom 125 million Americans.

"That’s wrong.

"That’s immoral.

"That should not be the case when we have half a million people sleeping out on the streets.

"When we have kids who cannot afford to go to college.

"When we have 45 million people dealing with student debt.

"We have enormous problems facing this country and we cannot continue seeing a situation where in the last three years, billionaires in this country saw an $850 billion increase in their wealth."

 

[JGalt]

"If you are so sure that " Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history," I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :

Ask Ze'ev:

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"Ze’ev Jabotinsky, the godfather of the right-wing ideology that has dominated Israel since 1977, an ideology openly embraced by Prime Ministers Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, Ariel Sharon, Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu, wrote bluntly in 1923: 'Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonized.

"That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of ‘Palestine’ into the ‘Land of Israel.'"

Are you arguing Palestine has never existed?

Have you read the Balfour Declaration?

Don't care about any Palestinians. They need to GTFO and let Israel be Israel.

Don't care about any Palestinians. They need to GTFO and let Israel be Israel.

Israel is a racist, apartheid state that needs to go the way of White South Africa and the Third Reich:

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"The Israeli public is infected with racism.

"'Death to Arabs' is a popular chant at Israeli soccer matches.

"Jewish mobs and vigilantes, including thugs from right-wing youth groups such as Im Tirtzu, carry out indiscriminate acts of vandalism and violence against dissidents, Palestinians, Israeli Arabs and the hapless African immigrants who live crammed into the slums of Tel Aviv.

"Israel has promulgated a series of discriminatory laws against non-Jews that eerily resemble the racist Nuremberg Laws that disenfranchised Jews in Nazi Germany."

Haavara Agreement - Wikipedia

Blather blather blather...

Are you the Alex Jones of the left or something?

 

[georgephillip]

Are you the Alex Jones of the left or something?

Alex who?

Noam-Chomsky-JVP

 

[irosie91]

"If you are so sure that " Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history," I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :

Ask Ze'ev:

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"Ze’ev Jabotinsky, the godfather of the right-wing ideology that has dominated Israel since 1977, an ideology openly embraced by Prime Ministers Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, Ariel Sharon, Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu, wrote bluntly in 1923: 'Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonized.

"That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of ‘Palestine’ into the ‘Land of Israel.'"

Are you arguing Palestine has never existed?

Have you read the Balfour Declaration?

Don't care about any Palestinians. They need to GTFO and let Israel be Israel.

Don't care about any Palestinians. They need to GTFO and let Israel be Israel.

Israel is a racist, apartheid state that needs to go the way of White South Africa and the Third Reich:

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"The Israeli public is infected with racism.

"'Death to Arabs' is a popular chant at Israeli soccer matches.

"Jewish mobs and vigilantes, including thugs from right-wing youth groups such as Im Tirtzu, carry out indiscriminate acts of vandalism and violence against dissidents, Palestinians, Israeli Arabs and the hapless African immigrants who live crammed into the slums of Tel Aviv.

"Israel has promulgated a series of discriminatory laws against non-Jews that eerily resemble the racist Nuremberg Laws that disenfranchised Jews in Nazi Germany."

Haavara Agreement - Wikipedia

I know how to say " DEATH TO THE JEWS" in Arabic-------I have heard it
many times. I have no idea how to say "death to arabs" in Hebrew----I
never heard it. ANYONE? how about you, Georgie?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

​

"The Best Palestinian...is Either Dead or Gone" ​

Everyone agrees.​

 

[irosie91]

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the outcome of a century long colonial occupation by Zionists and later Israel that would never have been successful without imperial backing by the British and US.

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"Rashid Khalidi, the Edward Said professor of modern Arab studies at Columbia University, in his book “The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonization and Resistance, 1917-2017' has meticulously documented this long project of colonization of Palestine..."

"'This is a unique colonialism that we’ve been subjected to where they have no use for us,' Khalidi quotes Said as having written. 'The best Palestinian for them,' Said wrote, 'is either dead or gone.'"

Zionism was born in the savage pogroms in Russia and Eastern Europe during the late 19th century and early 20th century, yet Britain's support for a Jewish homeland was always colored by anti-Semitism.

"The Jewish colonizers knew they needed an imperial patron to succeed and survive.

"Their first patron was Britain, which sent 100,000 troops to crush the Palestinian revolt of the 1930s and armed and trained Jewish militias known as the Haganah.

"The savage repression of that revolt included wholesale executions and aerial bombardment and left 10% of the adult male Arab population killed, wounded, imprisoned or exiled."

when you do copy

The Brits put lots of rebellions down------they did not have the help of
the jews of Palestine nor did they arm HAGANAH-----they arrested
any jew they found with a gun or with a gun in his possession. You got
a citation for that 10 % of arab males dead in the British Mandate Palestine?

 

[georgephillip]

I know how to say " DEATH TO THE JEWS" in Arabic-------I have heard it
many times. I have no idea how to say "death to arabs" in Hebrew----I
never heard it. ANYONE? how about you, Georgie?

Since I don't understand Arabic or Hebrew, I would have no way of knowing, would I? When where you last in Israel?

Israel passes law granting Jews 'exclusive right to national self-determination'

 

[georgephillip]

The Brits put lots of rebellions down------they did not have the help of
the jews of Palestine nor did they arm HAGANAH-----they arrested
any jew they found with a gun or with a gun in his possession. You got
a citation for that 10 % of arab males dead in the British Mandate Palestine?

You mean this copy?

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"The savage repression of that revolt included wholesale executions and aerial bombardment and left 10% of the adult male Arab population killed, wounded, imprisoned or exiled."

Where did you get the idea the Brits didn't arm the Jews of Palestine?

The Evolution of Armed Jewish Defense in Palestine

"During the disturbances of 1936-1939 — called by the Arabs the 'Arab uprising' — strategic interests persuaded the British governments in Jerusalem and London to allow a certain degree of military collaboration between the British army and police and the Haganah.

"This cooperation gave the Haganah a measure of legality for three years, manifested in the Supernumery Police (JSP) venture that lasted until 1948 and in the fraternity of arms with Captain Orde Charles Wingate.

"The JSP was divided into 10 battalions in all parts of Palestine. Some were equipped with open vans and armored cars, and others were posted in the JSP stations and the settlements."

 

[georgephillip]

"The Best Palestinian...is Either Dead or Gone"

Everyone agrees.​

Your mean all the rich white guys?

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"'With ‘Great Jewry’ against us,' warned Britain’s Sir Mark Sykes, who with the French diplomat François Georges-Picot created the secret treaty that carved up the Ottoman Empire between Britain and France, there would be no possibility of victory.

"Zionism, Sykes said, was a powerful global subterranean force that was 'atmospheric, international, cosmopolitan, subconscious and unwritten, nay often unspoken.'"

 

[Frankeneinstein]

"We have a grotesque and immoral distribution of wealth and income.

Only where "distribution" actually exists, where it is pure do for yourself capitalism we have everyone sharing in the wealth they created...the problem isn't wealth, its allowing it to be distributed that creates poverty.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"The Best Palestinian...is Either Dead or Gone"

Everyone agrees.​

Your mean all the rich white guys?

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"'With ‘Great Jewry’ against us,' warned Britain’s Sir Mark Sykes, who with the French diplomat François Georges-Picot created the secret treaty that carved up the Ottoman Empire between Britain and France, there would be no possibility of victory.

"Zionism, Sykes said, was a powerful global subterranean force that was 'atmospheric, international, cosmopolitan, subconscious and unwritten, nay often unspoken.'"

Your mean all the rich white guys?


I mean everyone. Even their fellow Muslims don't want to help them or live with them.
They're like the georgephillips' of the Muslim world.

 

[irosie91]

The Brits put lots of rebellions down------they did not have the help of
the jews of Palestine nor did they arm HAGANAH-----they arrested
any jew they found with a gun or with a gun in his possession. You got
a citation for that 10 % of arab males dead in the British Mandate Palestine?

You mean this copy?

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"The savage repression of that revolt included wholesale executions and aerial bombardment and left 10% of the adult male Arab population killed, wounded, imprisoned or exiled."

Where did you get the idea the Brits didn't arm the Jews of Palestine?

The Evolution of Armed Jewish Defense in Palestine

"During the disturbances of 1936-1939 — called by the Arabs the 'Arab uprising' — strategic interests persuaded the British governments in Jerusalem and London to allow a certain degree of military collaboration between the British army and police and the Haganah.

"This cooperation gave the Haganah a measure of legality for three years, manifested in the Supernumery Police (JSP) venture that lasted until 1948 and in the fraternity of arms with Captain Orde Charles Wingate.

"The JSP was divided into 10 battalions in all parts of Palestine. Some were equipped with open vans and armored cars, and others were posted in the JSP stations and the settlements."

LOL "a measure of legality for three years..." cars and jeeps for a very special
little group of the haganah which were nothing more than local guards and---IN FACT rival to the actual much more MOTIVATED groups like Irgun and etzel.
More news -----da arabs had lot more by way of armaments----however neither
had much more than pistols or little rifles. Reference to Haganah as an ARMY
is like saying the 12 member traffic police squad in my little hometown out in
the sticks is comparable to the LUFTWAFFEN. I don't speak Arabic and my
Hebrew is on about the same level as my Sesame street Spanish, but I know how
to say "DEATH TO THE JEWS" in Arabic-----but not "death to the arabs" in
Hebrew. In the 1940s-----all weapons were confiscated from jews including by
house to house and person to person search

 

[irosie91]

"The Best Palestinian...is Either Dead or Gone"

Everyone agrees.​

Your mean all the rich white guys?

The Zionist Colonization of Palestine

"'With ‘Great Jewry’ against us,' warned Britain’s Sir Mark Sykes, who with the French diplomat François Georges-Picot created the secret treaty that carved up the Ottoman Empire between Britain and France, there would be no possibility of victory.

"Zionism, Sykes said, was a powerful global subterranean force that was 'atmospheric, international, cosmopolitan, subconscious and unwritten, nay often unspoken.'"

"sykes" ? as in Bill Sykes in Oliver Twist------he killed Nancy

 

[irosie91]

I know how to say " DEATH TO THE JEWS" in Arabic-------I have heard it
many times. I have no idea how to say "death to arabs" in Hebrew----I
never heard it. ANYONE? how about you, Georgie?

Since I don't understand Arabic or Hebrew, I would have no way of knowing, would I? When where you last in Israel?

Israel passes law granting Jews 'exclusive right to national self-determination'

there is no law in Israel granting jews "exclusive right to national determination"----
there is a law in Israel stating that the country is a jewish state. There are DOZENS of countries declaring themselves ISLAMIC STATES. England is
a DECLARED COUNTRY OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND ----angliican. ----
anyone out there bothered?

 

[georgephillip]

In the 1940s-----all weapons were confiscated from jews including by
house to house and person to person search

Because of Hebrew terrorism in Palestine.

"K class 2-8-4T steam locomotive and freight train derailed from the Jaffa and Jerusalem line after being sabotaged by Jewish insurgents in 1946"

Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia

"The White Paper of 1939[note 1] was a policy paper issued by the British government under Neville Chamberlain in response to the 1936–39 Arab Revolt..."

"The paper called for the establishment of a Jewish national home in an independent Palestinian state within 10 years, rejecting the idea of partitioning Palestine.

"It also limited Jewish immigration to 75,000 for 5 years, and ruled that further immigration was to be determined by the Arab majority (section II).

"Restrictions were put on the rights of Jews to buy land from Arabs (section III)."

White Paper of 1939 - Wikipedia