"The average Palestanian person hates Fatah and backs Hamas"

[Munin]

The reason why I post it is this post:

Fatah and it's leaders are nothing but traitors and sell outs to the Palestanian people and their cause.

Fatah grew out of Arafat's now defunct PLO.

The PLO was totally corrupt and did nothing but steal from the people.

Fatah has sold out to IsraHell and the ZioNazis.

That's why in a fair and legal election, Hamas beat out Fatah in Gaza.

The average Palestanian person hates Fatah and backs Hamas

I can't understand why "Sunni Man" and some other posters on this site really support Hamas, probably because most of us on this site are not muslims or arabs it might seem that we can't understand what the palestinians are suffering from and only arabs can understand what palestinians are suffering from.

And that s probably why you wont believe this is a credible article:BBC NEWS | Middle East | Anti-Hamas rallies staged in Gaza , because it is from a Western source right?

I stumbled upon this accidentally while I was searching the web for something different, an video post made by palestinians about Hamas activities:

Atlas Shrugs: RARE VIDEO: HAMAS KILLING "PALESTINIANS" IN GAZA

Maybe you should take a look at it so you might get to know Hamas, instead of saying stuff of what you know nothing about. And please, don't give me that propaganda shit.

Maybe it will also be good for some people here who call all palestinians "animals", so they also get to put things into perspective.

Here is a history lesson for those who call Jews Nazis: http://terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/

 

[AmericaFirst]

Let the Muslims take care of the Israelis. The real problem is here.

The Rise of the Jewish Empire in North America | Pakistan Daily

 

[DavidS]

Let the Muslims take care of the Israelis. The real problem is here.

The Rise of the Jewish Empire in North America | Pakistan Daily

Hmmmm... Pakistani news source. Not good enough. Let me see what the Al Queda times says. Or the Jihad Tribune. You're a laugh, America. Quoting terrorist news sources. The Jewish Empire??? HAHAHAHAHA!

The Jews just want Israel, the land we've had for thousands of years. We don't want Syria, or Egypt. We just want the holy land of Eretz Yisrael that God gave us. If someone stole a gift from God from you, you would do everything possible to get it back.

 

[dilloduck]

Hmmmm... Pakistani news source. Not good enough. Let me see what the Al Queda times says. Or the Jihad Tribune. You're a laugh, America. Quoting terrorist news sources. The Jewish Empire??? HAHAHAHAHA!

The Jews just want Israel, the land we've had for thousands of years. We don't want Syria, or Egypt. We just want the holy land of Eretz Yisrael that God gave us. If someone stole a gift from God from you, you would do everything possible to get it back.

see---That's the weird part. Claiming God gave it to you is a bit far fetched. Sorta like bones being "of the moon".

 

[DavidS]

see---That's the weird part. Claiming God gave it to you is a bit far fetched. Sorta like bones being "of the moon".

It's not far fetched at all. Christians and Muslims believe that a virgin got pregnant and that her son, when killed, rose from the Earth. If you believe that, you can believe anything.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

I've always said Hamas are a bunch of gangsters and this article vindicates that position.

 

[Munin]

Let the Muslims take care of the Israelis. The real problem is here.

The Rise of the Jewish Empire in North America | Pakistan Daily

Seriously? If you d really believe that why would they then allow a sun of a muslim with a muslim name to become president (Barrack Hussein Obama)?

It is true that the Jews are powerful within the US, but if they really are as powerful as you believe that they are then why would the US not be waging war against the Arabs/Palestinians?

One of the biggest reasons why Bush and many very relgious americans support Israel is their religion: Christianity, it is as simple as that.

Look at the map here, it makes your comment of Jews ruling America a Joke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jewish_Population_2000.png

 

[Munin]

If someone stole a gift from God from you, you would do everything possible to get it back.

Well muslims believe that parts of Jerusalem were gifts from God too, so you are also making the case for palestinians and Arabs.

 

[Munin]

It's not far fetched at all. Christians and Muslims believe that a virgin got pregnant and that her son, when killed, rose from the Earth. If you believe that, you can believe anything.

Believe what you want, I ll say that your all nuts

 

[AmericaFirst]

Seriously? If you d really believe that why would they then allow a sun of a muslim with a muslim name to become president (Barrack Hussein Obama)?

It is true that the Jews are powerful within the US, but if they really are as powerful as you believe that they are then why would the US not be waging war against the Arabs/Palestinians?

One of the biggest reasons why Bush and many very relgious americans support Israel is their religion: Christianity, it is as simple as that.

Look at the map here, it makes your comment of Jews ruling America a Joke: File:Jewish Population 2000.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Obama's biggest campaign contributors are the banksters (jew money changers). He owes them, look, he's about to give them another $800,000,000,000.00 of taxpayers dollar (DEBT SLAVES WE ARE) - He is NOT a Muslim. He has declared his allegiance to Israel. Based on your statement he is not what he appears to you to be.

Israel uses our weapons we either give to them or they buy. Everytime they FUCK UP America bails them out. ISRAEL was scared shitless of SADDAM. The jew neocons took him out along with over another million other Iraqis. If the jew israeli's bomb IRAN we will have to bail them out with more American lives, and DEBT to the banksters.

Bush is NOT a Christian, Bush is just another RETARDED SINNING christian-ZIONIST

The Shadow Money Lenders: The Real Significance of The Fed’s Zero-Interest-Rate Policy (ZIRP)

 

[DavidS]

Well muslims believe that parts of Jerusalem were gifts from God too, so you are also making the case for palestinians and Arabs.

Actually, no they don't. First of all, you're in error giving a distinction between Palestinians and Arabs. There is no such thing as a Palestinian. Palestine was just another name for Israel. So a "Palestinian" is really an Israeli. The people who live in Gaza and the West Bank are Arabs who are genetically no different to Jordanians, Lebanese, Yemenites, Saudis and so on. Just as an American is no different from a Canadian or a European.

Now, your second error. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it claim that Jersualem belongs to Muslims. It does in fact claim that the Mosque, Al Asqua, belongs to them. But Israel and Jerusalem are mentioned very, very few times in the Qu'ran if ever.

First Qiblah for Muslims

Jerusalem was the first Qiblah for Muslims - the place toward which Muslims turn in prayer. It was many years into the Islamic mission (16 months after the Hijrah), that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was instructed to change the Qibla from Jerusalem to Mecca (Qur'an 2:142-144). It is reported that the Prophet Muhammad said, "There are only three mosques to which you should embark on a journey: the sacred mosque (Mecca, Saudi Arabia), this mosque of mine (Madinah, Saudi Arabia), and the mosque of Al-Aqsa (Jerusalem)."

It is Jerusalem that Muhammad (peace be upon him) visited during his night journey and ascension (called Isra' and Mi'raj). In one evening, the angel Gabriel miraculously took the Prophet from the Sacred Mosque in Mecca to the Furthest Mosque (Al-Aqsa) in Jerusalem. He was then taken up to the heavens to be shown the signs of God. The Prophet met with previous prophets and led them in prayer. He was then taken back to Mecca. The whole experience (which Muslim commentators take literally and Muslims believe as a miracle) lasted a few hours of a night. The event of Isra' and Mi'raj is mentioned in the Qur’an, in the first verse of Chapter 17 entitled 'The Children of Israel.’

"Glory to Allah, Who did take His servant for a journey by night, from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless - in order that We might show him some of Our signs. For He is the One who hears and knows all things." (Qur'an 17:1)

This night journey further reinforced the link between Mecca and Jerusalem as holy cities, and serves as an example of every Muslim's deep devotion and spiritual connection with Jerusalem.

It does NOT at all say "Israel or Jerusalem belongs to Muslims only." It says they have a deep spiritual connection with it. And it is no skin off of our back to welcome as many Arabs as possible to the site. When the Islamic Empire held control of Israel after they defeated the Eastern Roman Empire, they protected the Jews from outsiders and looked to the Jews as spiritual brothers. Arab Muslims and Israeli Jews used to be very close... closer than America and England today. For centures, the Jews lived in peace under the protection of Arab Muslims. The people of Israel would have absolutely no problem letting muslims pray at their holy mosque as long as they leave the Jews praying at the ruins of our ancient Temple in peace. Unfortunately, that is not always the case.

 

[AmericaFirst]

LOL = Prove God said anything to anybody.

LOL2= most ofthe jews in Israel are NOT Semetic, yet almost all the Palestinians are.......

Actually, no they don't. First of all, you're in error giving a distinction between Palestinians and Arabs. There is no such thing as a Palestinian. Palestine was just another name for Israel. So a "Palestinian" is really an Israeli. The people who live in Gaza and the West Bank are Arabs who are genetically no different to Jordanians, Lebanese, Yemenites, Saudis and so on. Just as an American is no different from a Canadian or a European.

Now, your second error. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it claim that Jersualem belongs to Muslims. It does in fact claim that the Mosque, Al Asqua, belongs to them. But Israel and Jerusalem are mentioned very, very few times in the Qu'ran if ever.

First Qiblah for Muslims

Jerusalem was the first Qiblah for Muslims - the place toward which Muslims turn in prayer. It was many years into the Islamic mission (16 months after the Hijrah), that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was instructed to change the Qibla from Jerusalem to Mecca (Qur'an 2:142-144). It is reported that the Prophet Muhammad said, "There are only three mosques to which you should embark on a journey: the sacred mosque (Mecca, Saudi Arabia), this mosque of mine (Madinah, Saudi Arabia), and the mosque of Al-Aqsa (Jerusalem)."

It is Jerusalem that Muhammad (peace be upon him) visited during his night journey and ascension (called Isra' and Mi'raj). In one evening, the angel Gabriel miraculously took the Prophet from the Sacred Mosque in Mecca to the Furthest Mosque (Al-Aqsa) in Jerusalem. He was then taken up to the heavens to be shown the signs of God. The Prophet met with previous prophets and led them in prayer. He was then taken back to Mecca. The whole experience (which Muslim commentators take literally and Muslims believe as a miracle) lasted a few hours of a night. The event of Isra' and Mi'raj is mentioned in the Qur’an, in the first verse of Chapter 17 entitled 'The Children of Israel.’

"Glory to Allah, Who did take His servant for a journey by night, from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless - in order that We might show him some of Our signs. For He is the One who hears and knows all things." (Qur'an 17:1)

This night journey further reinforced the link between Mecca and Jerusalem as holy cities, and serves as an example of every Muslim's deep devotion and spiritual connection with Jerusalem.

It does NOT at all say "Israel or Jerusalem belongs to Muslims only." It says they have a deep spiritual connection with it. And it is no skin off of our back to welcome as many Arabs as possible to the site. When the Islamic Empire held control of Israel after they defeated the Eastern Roman Empire, they protected the Jews from outsiders and looked to the Jews as spiritual brothers. Arab Muslims and Israeli Jews used to be very close... closer than America and England today. For centures, the Jews lived in peace under the protection of Arab Muslims. The people of Israel would have absolutely no problem letting muslims pray at their holy mosque as long as they leave the Jews praying at the ruins of our ancient Temple in peace. Unfortunately, that is not always the case.

 

[DavidS]

LOL = Prove God said anything to anybody.

LOL2= most ofthe jews in Israel are NOT Semetic, yet almost all the Palestinians are.......

If you have no belief in God, the Torah or any book, then you have no stake in this argument. An athiest's brain is not advanced enough to understand the miracle of God.

 

[no1tovote4]

Fatah, just months ago it seems, was the evil product of the PLO. Now that Hamas has taken their place, it doesn't seem to be much of a change.

 

[AmericaFirst]

If you have no belief in God, the Torah or any book, then you have no stake in this argument. An athiest's brain is not advanced enough to understand the miracle of God.

I never said I was an atheist.

I'd sure like someone with such Great Knowledge of these religions like you to go ahead and prove that God spoke to somebody though!

Thanks in advance!

 

[AmericaFirst]

Fatah, just months ago it seems, was the evil product of the PLO. Now that Hamas has taken their place, it doesn't seem to be much of a change.

They are both evil products of zionist Israel.

 

[Annie]

Fatah, just months ago it seems, was the evil product of the PLO. Now that Hamas has taken their place, it doesn't seem to be much of a change.

Indeed. Bad and worse. One would hope that some enterprising folk from West Bank would step up!

 

[DavidS]

I never said I was an atheist.

I'd sure like someone with such Great Knowledge of these religions like you to go ahead and prove that God spoke to somebody though!

Thanks in advance!

Sorry, I don't have time to do your research for you. Read Genesis when God tells Abraham to go to Canaan and that God will create a great nation for Abraham and all of Abraham's descendants.

 

[no1tovote4]

They are both evil products of zionist Israel.

Right, because the idea that Muslims are ever extremists without Israel is just crazy.

While there is no moral high ground for either side of this mess, attempting to say that they are not responsible for their actions because it is all Israel's fault is inane.

It's like pretending that Jews didn't live there before and they all suddenly came in after 1948, it just isn't true.

 

[no1tovote4]

Indeed. Bad and worse. One would hope that some enterprising folk from West Bank would step up!

Egypt isn't exactly happy having Hamas right next door like that either. Maybe Egypt could speak up a bit.