Stunning: U.S. "compromise"(??): Iran can get the Bomb in gradual, phased-in program

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This has to be a joke. Something out of The Onion.

A plan that's always preceded with, "Hey, Jimmy, wouldn't it be crazy if they decided something like THIS? Ha ha ha ha!!"

Except I don't see any such disclaimers in this story.

Is there somebody somewhere, who thinks Iran will NOT use this nuclear material to make bombs? That they will keep an "agreement" not to?

And that they would not use them, or coerce us (very effectively!) by threatening to use them?

This is like making an agreement with terrorists, saying that they can't fly airliners into any of our skyscrapers for the next ten years... but after that, they can start doing it, just one or two buildings per year.

The very idea that someone in this administration can call this a "compromise", makes my jaw hit the floor.

What, exactly, are these people trying to accomplish?

I've never called any of the Obama administration's acts "treasonous". But if this story is true, I don't see what else it could be.

This just can't be happening.

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Historic US-Iran nuclear deal could be taking shape - Yahoo News

Historic US-Iran nuclear deal could be taking shape

Associated Press
By GEORGE JAHN and BRADLEY KLAPPER
20 hours ago

GENEVA (AP) — Edging toward a historic compromise, the U.S. and Iran reported progress Monday on a deal that would clamp down on Tehran's nuclear activities for at least 10 years but then slowly ease restrictions on programs that could be used to make atomic arms.

Officials said there were still obstacles to overcome before a March 31 deadline, and any deal will face harsh opposition in both countries. It also would be sure to further strain already-tense U.S. relations with Israel, whose leaders oppose any agreement that doesn't end Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to strongly criticize the deal in an address before Congress next week.

Still, a comprehensive pact could ease 35 years of U.S-Iranian enmity — and seems within reach for the first time in more than a decade of negotiations.

"We made progress," U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said as he bade farewell to members of the American delegation at the table with Iran.

Western officials familiar with the talks cited movement but also described the discussions as a moving target, meaning changes in any one area would have repercussions for other parts of the negotiation.

The core idea would be to reward Iran for good behavior over the last years of any agreement, gradually lifting constraints on its uranium enrichment and slowly easing economic sanctions.

Iran says it does not want nuclear arms and needs enrichment only for energy, medical and scientific purposes, but the U.S. fears Tehran could re-engineer the program to produce the fissile core of a nuclear weapon.

The U.S. initially sought restrictions lasting up to 20 years; Iran has pushed for less than a decade. The prospective deal appears to be somewhere in the middle.

One variation being discussed would place at least a 10-year regime of strict controls on Iran's uranium enrichment. If Iran complied, the restrictions would be gradually lifted over the final five years.

One issue critics are certain to focus on: Once the deal expired, Iran could theoretically ramp up enrichment to whatever level it wanted.

Experts say Iran already could produce the equivalent of one weapon's worth of enriched uranium with its present operating 10,000 centrifuges. Several officials spoke of 6,500 centrifuges as a potential point of compromise <------ *****
 
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The U.S. Secretary of State calls this "progress".

Progress toward what, John?

Does your boss know what you've done?
 

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Iran is currently and has been for the past 36 years a terrorist organization. Its proximity to the USSR made it difficult in years past to effectively address aggressively so passive economic restrictions have been the plan. That has not panned out, obviously. It's now time for a coup.
 

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Historic US-Iran nuclear deal could be taking shape
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and the OP COULD BE smarter than a door knob, but ..................................
 
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1.) Wait till Israeli planes take off and head that way.

2.) Let a B-2 that's been quietly orbiting and refueling nearby unseen, cruise over and drop a daisy cutter or two on the building(s) where the research is going on. If they are deep under ground (likely), make them deep-penetration bunker busters. While Israeli bombs are exploding mostly on the surface and not accomplishing much, since Israel doesn't have a plane that can fly that far with that heavy a bomb.

3.) The B-2 quietly goes home, refueling a few more times in midair, still unseen.

4.) Get somebody credible in the Obama administration (that's the most difficult part) to announce, "Well, you can't really blame Israel for destroying those labs. Naturally we condemn all violence and once again call all those folks to the conference table."

Sound like a plan?
 

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1.) Wait till Israeli planes take off and head that way.

2.) Let a B-2 that's been quietly orbiting and refueling nearby unseen, cruise over and drop a daisy cutter or two on the building(s) where the research is going on. If they are deep under ground (likely), make them deep-penetration bunker busters. While Israeli bombs are exploding mostly on the surface and not accomplishing much, since Israel doesn't have a plane that can fly that far with that heavy a bomb.

3.) The B-2 quietly goes home, refueling a few more times in midair, still unseen.

4.) Get somebody credible in the Obama administration (that's the most difficult part) to announce, "Well, you can't really blame Israel for destroying those labs. Naturally we condemn all violence and once again call all those folks to the conference table."

Sound like a plan?
Sounds like a plan except obama would intentionally confuse Tehran with Tel Aviv.
 

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So it only puts off an Iran bomb or war for ten years? Horrors! How stupid and fear mongered are you. You do realize a new agreement can continue this again in ten years, and this is how diplomacy works? RW fear mongered idiocy...
 

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1.) Wait till Israeli planes take off and head that way.

2.) Let a B-2 that's been quietly orbiting and refueling nearby unseen, cruise over and drop a daisy cutter or two on the building(s) where the research is going on. If they are deep under ground (likely), make them deep-penetration bunker busters. While Israeli bombs are exploding mostly on the surface and not accomplishing much, since Israel doesn't have a plane that can fly that far with that heavy a bomb.

3.) The B-2 quietly goes home, refueling a few more times in midair, still unseen.

4.) Get somebody credible in the Obama administration (that's the most difficult part) to announce, "Well, you can't really blame Israel for destroying those labs. Naturally we condemn all violence and once again call all those folks to the conference table."

Sound like a plan?
Yeah it sounds like a plan. A plan for starting a war. Our bombs can't even reach deep enough to damage those labs you're talking about.
 

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Wait, Iran is 10 years from a nuclear bomb? I've been told they are 6 months from a nuclear bomb for the past 12 years.
 

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Libs want to cut our defense budget and they are fine with Iran getting nukes....
How bout that!
 

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This has to be a joke. Something out of The Onion.

A plan that's always preceded with, "Hey, Jimmy, wouldn't it be crazy if they decided something like THIS? Ha ha ha ha!!"

Except I don't see any such disclaimers in this story.

Is there somebody somewhere, who thinks Iran will NOT use this nuclear material to make bombs? That they will keep an "agreement" not to?

And that they would not use them, or coerce us (very effectively!) by threatening to use them?

This is like making an agreement with terrorists, saying that they can't fly airliners into any of our skyscrapers for the next ten years... but after that, they can start doing it, just one or two buildings per year.

The very idea that someone in this administration can call this a "compromise", makes my jaw hit the floor.

What, exactly, are these people trying to accomplish?

I've never called any of the Obama administration's acts "treasonous". But if this story is true, I don't see what else it could be.

This just can't be happening.

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Historic US-Iran nuclear deal could be taking shape - Yahoo News

Historic US-Iran nuclear deal could be taking shape

Associated Press
By GEORGE JAHN and BRADLEY KLAPPER
20 hours ago

GENEVA (AP) — Edging toward a historic compromise, the U.S. and Iran reported progress Monday on a deal that would clamp down on Tehran's nuclear activities for at least 10 years but then slowly ease restrictions on programs that could be used to make atomic arms.

Officials said there were still obstacles to overcome before a March 31 deadline, and any deal will face harsh opposition in both countries. It also would be sure to further strain already-tense U.S. relations with Israel, whose leaders oppose any agreement that doesn't end Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to strongly criticize the deal in an address before Congress next week.

Still, a comprehensive pact could ease 35 years of U.S-Iranian enmity — and seems within reach for the first time in more than a decade of negotiations.

"We made progress," U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said as he bade farewell to members of the American delegation at the table with Iran.

Western officials familiar with the talks cited movement but also described the discussions as a moving target, meaning changes in any one area would have repercussions for other parts of the negotiation.

The core idea would be to reward Iran for good behavior over the last years of any agreement, gradually lifting constraints on its uranium enrichment and slowly easing economic sanctions.

Iran says it does not want nuclear arms and needs enrichment only for energy, medical and scientific purposes, but the U.S. fears Tehran could re-engineer the program to produce the fissile core of a nuclear weapon.

The U.S. initially sought restrictions lasting up to 20 years; Iran has pushed for less than a decade. The prospective deal appears to be somewhere in the middle.

One variation being discussed would place at least a 10-year regime of strict controls on Iran's uranium enrichment. If Iran complied, the restrictions would be gradually lifted over the final five years.

One issue critics are certain to focus on: Once the deal expired, Iran could theoretically ramp up enrichment to whatever level it wanted.

Experts say Iran already could produce the equivalent of one weapon's worth of enriched uranium with its present operating 10,000 centrifuges. Several officials spoke of 6,500 centrifuges as a potential point of compromise <------ *****
I prefer we "give" them our bomb...all at once.
 

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Here's the negotiation. Open up your entire program to inspection, or lose your entire program to kinetic destruction. Akbar that Mohammed.
 

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There is absolutely nothing Iran can do that will make Israel and American conservatives quit wanting to turn the entire country into craters and ashes. Nothing a conservative hates more than to lose a useful boogeyman. Still haven't forgiven Obama for killing Bin Laden.
 

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Here's the negotiation. Open up your entire program to inspection, or lose your entire program to kinetic destruction. Akbar that Mohammed.
Great idea bvvvvv....Everything you know is bs Pub hate propaganda. Best ISIS etc recruitment tool ever...
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Israel will never allow it and just today the Saudis are hinting they will grant Israel permission to use Saudi airspace in return for more Israel/Palestine talks
 

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