Little-Acorn
Gold Member
And so it begins.
Actually it sounds like they had this one in the works before the Dem takeover of Congress. But we can expect the whackos to come out of the woodwork in all directions more and more now. When the cat's away, the mice will play.
Best news here is, many students are telling the whackos to go f*ck themselves, and are sticking with the pledge anyway. I had wondered if any real Americans were left on campuses. Seems that there are.
Interesting quote about halfway down, from the guy who started the ban. Hey Jason, the words "under God" were inserted to help defeat the second part of your ideology (which reviles God), not the first (which doesn't really care). But that's the part most important to you, obviously. Hence your silly reaction. Here's a little hint: Most people have outgrown such childish tantrums, by about age six. When do you expect to catch up?
Things like this actually give me hope. Dems lost their majorities in 1994 when they got more and more extreme, trying to pass universal socialized medicine, exploding government, attacking big businesses, etc. Looks like they haven't learned from that debacle, and are wasting no time getting on track to do it again. Hopefully the Republicans will learn from their own drubbing, better than the Dems apparently did.
BTW, these nuts complain that the Pledge vows "loyalty to the government". It doesn't, of course - it vows loyalty "to the Republic", which means to the country. In the country set up by the Founders, and even as recently as our fathers' time, the govt was only a small, relatively unimportant part of the country. But to these socialists, government is the be-all and end-all of their existence. The country exists only to serve government, in their eyes, and they've been doing their best to make that a reality for the last generation or two.
No wonder they're so messed up.
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http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...0_RTRUKOC_0_US-LIFE-PLEDGE.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
Students at Calif. College ban Pledge of Allegiance
by Dan Whitcomb
Thu Nov 9, 2006 8:42pm ET
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Student leaders at a California college have touched off a furor by banning the Pledge of Allegiance at their meetings, saying they see no reason to publicly swear loyalty to God and the U.S. government.
The move by Orange Coast College student trustees, the latest clash over patriotism and religion in American schools, has infuriated some of their classmates -- prompting one young woman to loudly recite the pledge in front of the board on Wednesday night in defiance of the rule.
"America is the one thing I'm passionate about and I can't let them take that away from me," 18-year-old political science major Christine Zoldos told Reuters.
"The fact that they have enough power to ban one of the most valued traditions in America is just horrible," Zoldos said, adding she would attend every board meeting to salute the flag.
The move was lead by three recently elected student trustees, who ran for office wearing revolutionary-style berets and said they do not believe in publicly swearing an oath to the American flag and government at their school. One student trustee voted against the measure, which does not apply to other student groups or campus meetings.
The ban follows a 2002 ruling by a federal appeals court in San Francisco that said forcing school children to recite the pledge was unconstitutional because of the phrase "under God." The U.S. Supreme Court struck down the ruling on procedural grounds but left the door open for another challenge.
"That ('under God') part is sort of offensive to me," student trustee Jason Bell, who proposed the ban, told Reuters. "I am an atheist and a socialist, and if you know your history, you know that 'under God' was inserted during the McCarthy era and was directly designed to destroy my ideology."
Bell said the ban largely came about because the trustees didn't want to publicly vow loyalty to the American government before their meetings. "Loyalty ought to be something the government earns through performance, not through reciting a pledge," he said.
(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL)
Actually it sounds like they had this one in the works before the Dem takeover of Congress. But we can expect the whackos to come out of the woodwork in all directions more and more now. When the cat's away, the mice will play.
Best news here is, many students are telling the whackos to go f*ck themselves, and are sticking with the pledge anyway. I had wondered if any real Americans were left on campuses. Seems that there are.
Interesting quote about halfway down, from the guy who started the ban. Hey Jason, the words "under God" were inserted to help defeat the second part of your ideology (which reviles God), not the first (which doesn't really care). But that's the part most important to you, obviously. Hence your silly reaction. Here's a little hint: Most people have outgrown such childish tantrums, by about age six. When do you expect to catch up?
Things like this actually give me hope. Dems lost their majorities in 1994 when they got more and more extreme, trying to pass universal socialized medicine, exploding government, attacking big businesses, etc. Looks like they haven't learned from that debacle, and are wasting no time getting on track to do it again. Hopefully the Republicans will learn from their own drubbing, better than the Dems apparently did.
BTW, these nuts complain that the Pledge vows "loyalty to the government". It doesn't, of course - it vows loyalty "to the Republic", which means to the country. In the country set up by the Founders, and even as recently as our fathers' time, the govt was only a small, relatively unimportant part of the country. But to these socialists, government is the be-all and end-all of their existence. The country exists only to serve government, in their eyes, and they've been doing their best to make that a reality for the last generation or two.
No wonder they're so messed up.
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http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...0_RTRUKOC_0_US-LIFE-PLEDGE.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
Students at Calif. College ban Pledge of Allegiance
by Dan Whitcomb
Thu Nov 9, 2006 8:42pm ET
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Student leaders at a California college have touched off a furor by banning the Pledge of Allegiance at their meetings, saying they see no reason to publicly swear loyalty to God and the U.S. government.
The move by Orange Coast College student trustees, the latest clash over patriotism and religion in American schools, has infuriated some of their classmates -- prompting one young woman to loudly recite the pledge in front of the board on Wednesday night in defiance of the rule.
"America is the one thing I'm passionate about and I can't let them take that away from me," 18-year-old political science major Christine Zoldos told Reuters.
"The fact that they have enough power to ban one of the most valued traditions in America is just horrible," Zoldos said, adding she would attend every board meeting to salute the flag.
The move was lead by three recently elected student trustees, who ran for office wearing revolutionary-style berets and said they do not believe in publicly swearing an oath to the American flag and government at their school. One student trustee voted against the measure, which does not apply to other student groups or campus meetings.
The ban follows a 2002 ruling by a federal appeals court in San Francisco that said forcing school children to recite the pledge was unconstitutional because of the phrase "under God." The U.S. Supreme Court struck down the ruling on procedural grounds but left the door open for another challenge.
"That ('under God') part is sort of offensive to me," student trustee Jason Bell, who proposed the ban, told Reuters. "I am an atheist and a socialist, and if you know your history, you know that 'under God' was inserted during the McCarthy era and was directly designed to destroy my ideology."
Bell said the ban largely came about because the trustees didn't want to publicly vow loyalty to the American government before their meetings. "Loyalty ought to be something the government earns through performance, not through reciting a pledge," he said.
(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL)
