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False innuendo.Most criminals are pathetic.
But they're still criminal.
Claiming you have a medal is ONLY illegal because someone decided to make a pathetic attempt for attention that harms no one a crime.
Will we next arrest Dr Gregg for "Stolen Learning" because he claims he has a PhD in Genetics? Congress could pass just such a law and such pathetic behavior would suddenly become criminal. Such a law would nonetheless be inane.
Congress makes the following findings:
(1) Fraudulent claims surrounding the receipt of the Medal
of Honor, the distinguished-service cross, the Navy cross, the
Air Force cross, the Purple Heart, and other decorations and
medals awarded by the President or the Armed Forces of the
United States damage the reputation and meaning of such
decorations and medals.
http://ftp.resource.org/gpo.gov/laws/109/publ437.109.pdf
S. 1998:
Stolen Valor Act of 2005
109th Congress
This is a bill in the U.S. Congress originating in the Senate ("S."). A bill must be passed by both the Senate and House and then be signed by the President before it becomes law.
Because this bill was introduced in a previous session of Congress, no more action can occur on it.
Primary Source
See S. 1998 [109th] on THOMAS for the official source of information on this bill or resolution.
A bill to amend title 18, United States Code, to enhance protections relating to the reputation and meaning of the Medal of Honor and other military decorations and awards, and for other purposes.
Overview
Sponsor:
Sen. Kent Conrad [D-ND]
Status:
Occurred: Introduced Nov 10, 2005
Occurred: Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments
Occurred: Passed Senate Sep 7, 2006
Occurred: Passed House Dec 6, 2006
Occurred: Signed by President Dec 20, 2006
This bill became law. It was signed by George Bush.
Last Action:
Dec 20, 2006: Became Public Law No: 109-437.
Related:
Votes:
Sep 7, 2006: This bill passed in the Senate by Unanimous Consent. A record of each senators position was not kept.
Dec 6, 2006: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representatives position was not kept.
S. 1998 [109th]: Stolen Valor Act of 2005 (GovTrack.us)
It would seem that the US Congress disagrees with you.
It would seem that the US Congress disagrees with you.
It is being challenged now in federal court. Xavier Alvarez, a California man convicted in 2007 of falsely claiming to be a decorated Marine, is asking the U.S. Court of Appeals to overturn the conviction and rule the Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional. A ruling could come at any time.
Stolen Valor: Challenges to Fake Medals Met with Criticism - ABC News
I understand that there are 3 separate cases where the ACLU is trying to get the law overturned.
What say you Veterans? Is falsely claiming medals or service within the 1st amendment rights?
It is being challenged now in federal court. Xavier Alvarez, a California man convicted in 2007 of falsely claiming to be a decorated Marine, is asking the U.S. Court of Appeals to overturn the conviction and rule the Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional. A ruling could come at any time.
Stolen Valor: Challenges to Fake Medals Met with Criticism - ABC News
I understand that there are 3 separate cases where the ACLU is trying to get the law overturned.
What say you Veterans? Is falsely claiming medals or service within the 1st amendment rights?
Oh, I thought this might be a thread about Ollie North, but it isn't. Nevermind.
It is being challenged now in federal court. Xavier Alvarez, a California man convicted in 2007 of falsely claiming to be a decorated Marine, is asking the U.S. Court of Appeals to overturn the conviction and rule the Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional. A ruling could come at any time.
Stolen Valor: Challenges to Fake Medals Met with Criticism - ABC News
I understand that there are 3 separate cases where the ACLU is trying to get the law overturned.
What say you Veterans? Is falsely claiming medals or service within the 1st amendment rights?
Oh, I thought this might be a thread about Ollie North, but it isn't. Nevermind.
I'll take Ollie over You or Kerry Any day, clown.
Oh, I thought this might be a thread about Ollie North, but it isn't. Nevermind.
I'll take Ollie over You or Kerry Any day, clown.
You can keep Kerry and Ollie both. Ollie was a disgrace to the Marine uniform. No amount of turning a buck off of his military connections will ever change that.
I'll take Ollie over You or Kerry Any day, clown.
You can keep Kerry and Ollie both. Ollie was a disgrace to the Marine uniform. No amount of turning a buck off of his military connections will ever change that.
Pussy!
I will keep Ollie. Kerry should go straight to the Swifties, apologize, and come clean. He can start with Standard Form 180.
You can keep Kerry and Ollie both. Ollie was a disgrace to the Marine uniform. No amount of turning a buck off of his military connections will ever change that.
Pussy!
I will keep Ollie. Kerry should go straight to the Swifties, apologize, and come clean. He can start with Standard Form 180.
kerry actually signed an SF180. Bush did not. Any documentation surroundig Bush's failure to follow a direct order to take a flight physical have been "lost" somehow in the national guard's paper warehouse. hmmmmmmm.
I'll take Ollie over You or Kerry Any day, clown.
You can keep Kerry and Ollie both. Ollie was a disgrace to the Marine uniform. No amount of turning a buck off of his military connections will ever change that.
Pussy!
and I am quite sure that you have your facts wrong. Kerry signed an SF180. That's a fact. Bush, on the other hand, DID have a web site with all sorts of documents on it, but it was hardly all-inclusive. Like I said, he disobeyed a direct order to report for a flight physical. An officer disobeys a direct order, and SOMETHING goes in his record, guaranteed... but NADA in the records that Dubya selectively released.Pussy!
I will keep Ollie. Kerry should go straight to the Swifties, apologize, and come clean. He can start with Standard Form 180.
kerry actually signed an SF180. Bush did not. Any documentation surroundig Bush's failure to follow a direct order to take a flight physical have been "lost" somehow in the national guard's paper warehouse. hmmmmmmm.
Not to my understanding. I believe You have Your facts wrong. Kerry released selective documents. Bush had everything out there. You all used that against him throughout both terms. Show where Kerry signed form 1080.
You all are off topic, this battle was fought 6 years ago. Kerry was awarded medals that I disagree with and he used them politically, but he had them awarded to him legally and had the right to wear them.
Bush received very few medals but received them as he should have.
You all are off topic, this battle was fought 6 years ago. Kerry was awarded medals that I disagree with and he used them politically, but he had them awarded to him legally and had the right to wear them.
Bush received very few medals but received them as he should have.
You all are off topic, this battle was fought 6 years ago. Kerry was awarded medals that I disagree with and he used them politically, but he had them awarded to him legally and had the right to wear them.
Bush received very few medals but received them as he should have.
whether YOU disagree with the awards board that awarded Kerry a silver star and a bronze star is completely irrelevant. SInce when do E-7's get to decide when officers have earned such awards?
and no thoughts on Bush disobeying a direct order?
I understand.
You all are off topic, this battle was fought 6 years ago. Kerry was awarded medals that I disagree with and he used them politically, but he had them awarded to him legally and had the right to wear them.
Bush received very few medals but received them as he should have.
whether YOU disagree with the awards board that awarded Kerry a silver star and a bronze star is completely irrelevant. SInce when do E-7's get to decide when officers have earned such awards?
and no thoughts on Bush disobeying a direct order?
I understand.
You understand very little, and are blinded by your bias. See the highlighted section? And I have no knowledge of Bush disobeying an order. Were you there? Have you seen the documentation? Me neither.
and I am quite sure that you have your facts wrong. Kerry signed an SF180. That's a fact. Bush, on the other hand, DID have a web site with all sorts of documents on it, but it was hardly all-inclusive. Like I said, he disobeyed a direct order to report for a flight physical. An officer disobeys a direct order, and SOMETHING goes in his record, guaranteed... but NADA in the records that Dubya selectively released.kerry actually signed an SF180. Bush did not. Any documentation surroundig Bush's failure to follow a direct order to take a flight physical have been "lost" somehow in the national guard's paper warehouse. hmmmmmmm.
Not to my understanding. I believe You have Your facts wrong. Kerry released selective documents. Bush had everything out there. You all used that against him throughout both terms. Show where Kerry signed form 1080.
edit: as per your request:
Kerry allows Navy release of military, medical records - The Boston Globe
On May 20, Kerry signed a document called Standard Form 180, authorizing the Navy to send an ''undeleted" copy of his ''complete military service record and medical record" to the Globe. Asked why he delayed signing the form for so long, Kerry said in a written response: ''The call for me to sign a 180 form came from the same partisan operatives who were lying about my record on a daily basis on the Web and in the right-wing media. Even though the media was discrediting them, they continued to lie. I felt strongly that we shouldn't kowtow to them and their attempts to drag their lies out."
Many of the records contain praise for Kerry's service. For example, the documents quote Kerry's former commanding officers as saying he is ''one of the finest young officers with whom I have served;" is ''the acknowledged leader of his peer group;" and is ''highly recommended for promotion."
now...admit that you were wrong...