St. Louis teen charged with murder of Lyft driver

[TheParser]

Another hard-working immigrant murdered by a native-born gangsta. Or: The conversation we aren't allowed to have over black violence.

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A 17-year-old St. Louis man was charged with murder Saturday for the shooting death of a Ghanian Lyft driver who had immigrated to the United States and was saving up to bring his children over as well.​

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Torian Wilson has been charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action for the killing of 45-year-old Elijah Newman, who was found dead late Thursday night in his car from a single gunshot wound to the torso.​

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Elijah Newman was found dead in his car around 11 p.m. Thursday.​

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Police tracked Wilson from his email address, which had been linked to a series of recent carjackings of ride-sharing drivers, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. The teenager was taken into custody with a gun that matched a bullet casing found near Newman’s body.​

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“We are heartbroken by this tragic incident and our hearts are with Elijah’s family and friends during this incredibly difficult time,” Lyft said in a statement. “Safety is fundamental to Lyft and we stand ready to assist law enforcement with any investigation.”​

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St. Louis teen charged with murder of Lyft driver

When I read the thread title's three words "teen" "St. Louis" and "murder," I already knew what the story was going to be about.

 

[Desperado]

Another hard-working immigrant murdered by a native-born gangsta. Or: The conversation we aren't allowed to have over black violence.

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A 17-year-old St. Louis man was charged with murder Saturday for the shooting death of a Ghanian Lyft driver who had immigrated to the United States and was saving up to bring his children over as well.​

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Torian Wilson has been charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action for the killing of 45-year-old Elijah Newman, who was found dead late Thursday night in his car from a single gunshot wound to the torso.​

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Elijah Newman was found dead in his car around 11 p.m. Thursday.​

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Police tracked Wilson from his email address, which had been linked to a series of recent carjackings of ride-sharing drivers, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. The teenager was taken into custody with a gun that matched a bullet casing found near Newman’s body.​

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“We are heartbroken by this tragic incident and our hearts are with Elijah’s family and friends during this incredibly difficult time,” Lyft said in a statement. “Safety is fundamental to Lyft and we stand ready to assist law enforcement with any investigation.”​

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St. Louis teen charged with murder of Lyft driver

My God.. I hope he gets life.

No I hope he gets the death penalty, there is no hope of ever changing him.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Back in the day, New York cabbies, particularly in Manhattan, were persecuted, fined, sued, etc. for not picking up Black people. If not getting paid the fare and getting mugged or worse is dramatically reduced with some common sense, why not?

This happened in DC as well. It also extended to pizza delivery. A Dominoe’s franchise was fined by a court because it stopped serving a part of a neighborhood where drivers were always getting robbed. I know a guy who worked for a National home improvement chain. He would get leads and inquires and go onsite and do an estimate for services. If a call /lead came in from a certain zip code, In almost all of the cases, their estimates were too expensive so he would not get paid. On top of that, he had his car vandalized and was threatened a couple of times just for being in the neighborhood. He solved his problem by simply speaking with the customer over the phone in an initial consultation gathering some information and then intentionally give them an estimate that was artificially high so as to disqualify his company so he would not have to travel into the bad neighborhood and risk his life for a most unlikely sale.

I am sure the “racist” buttons are going off . But, this not about race. It is about human behavior and economics . Small business service providers such as Uber, Lyft, pizza delivery, and home improvement contractors have enough economic challenges to worry about. Why should they risk their business and their lives in bad neighborhoods?

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

A 17-year-old St. Louis man

"Man"

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Another hard-working immigrant murdered by a native-born gangsta. Or: The conversation we aren't allowed to have over black violence.

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A 17-year-old St. Louis man was charged with murder Saturday for the shooting death of a Ghanian Lyft driver who had immigrated to the United States and was saving up to bring his children over as well.​

​

Torian Wilson has been charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action for the killing of 45-year-old Elijah Newman, who was found dead late Thursday night in his car from a single gunshot wound to the torso.​

​

Elijah Newman was found dead in his car around 11 p.m. Thursday.​

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Police tracked Wilson from his email address, which had been linked to a series of recent carjackings of ride-sharing drivers, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. The teenager was taken into custody with a gun that matched a bullet casing found near Newman’s body.​

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“We are heartbroken by this tragic incident and our hearts are with Elijah’s family and friends during this incredibly difficult time,” Lyft said in a statement. “Safety is fundamental to Lyft and we stand ready to assist law enforcement with any investigation.”​

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St. Louis teen charged with murder of Lyft driver

My God.. I hope he gets life.

No I hope he gets the death penalty, there is no hope of ever changing him.

If his life ended by cop, he would be a martyr

 

[surada]

Another hard-working immigrant murdered by a native-born gangsta. Or: The conversation we aren't allowed to have over black violence.

​

A 17-year-old St. Louis man was charged with murder Saturday for the shooting death of a Ghanian Lyft driver who had immigrated to the United States and was saving up to bring his children over as well.​

​

Torian Wilson has been charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action for the killing of 45-year-old Elijah Newman, who was found dead late Thursday night in his car from a single gunshot wound to the torso.​

​

Elijah Newman was found dead in his car around 11 p.m. Thursday.​

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Police tracked Wilson from his email address, which had been linked to a series of recent carjackings of ride-sharing drivers, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. The teenager was taken into custody with a gun that matched a bullet casing found near Newman’s body.​

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“We are heartbroken by this tragic incident and our hearts are with Elijah’s family and friends during this incredibly difficult time,” Lyft said in a statement. “Safety is fundamental to Lyft and we stand ready to assist law enforcement with any investigation.”​

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St. Louis teen charged with murder of Lyft driver

My God.. I hope he gets life.

No I hope he gets the death penalty, there is no hope of ever changing him.

If his life ended by cop, he would be a martyr

Not necessarily. Do you always have such knee jerk reactions?

 

[AMart]

Like DC, St. Louis has a Soros DA so he will likely get a slap on the wrist like those 2 teen girls in DC that murdered that immigrant driver.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Another hard-working immigrant murdered by a native-born gangsta. Or: The conversation we aren't allowed to have over black violence.

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A 17-year-old St. Louis man was charged with murder Saturday for the shooting death of a Ghanian Lyft driver who had immigrated to the United States and was saving up to bring his children over as well.​

​

Torian Wilson has been charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action for the killing of 45-year-old Elijah Newman, who was found dead late Thursday night in his car from a single gunshot wound to the torso.​

​

Elijah Newman was found dead in his car around 11 p.m. Thursday.​

​

Police tracked Wilson from his email address, which had been linked to a series of recent carjackings of ride-sharing drivers, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. The teenager was taken into custody with a gun that matched a bullet casing found near Newman’s body.​

​

“We are heartbroken by this tragic incident and our hearts are with Elijah’s family and friends during this incredibly difficult time,” Lyft said in a statement. “Safety is fundamental to Lyft and we stand ready to assist law enforcement with any investigation.”​

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St. Louis teen charged with murder of Lyft driver

My God.. I hope he gets life.

No I hope he gets the death penalty, there is no hope of ever changing him.

If his life ended by cop, he would be a martyr

Not necessarily. Do you always have such knee jerk reactions?

Judgement based on DECADES of observation.

Not knee-jerk. I only make it look easy.

I understand it takes awhile for leftists to catch up.

 

[TheParser]

Back in the day, New York cabbies, particularly in Manhattan, were persecuted, fined, sued, etc. for not picking up Black people. If not getting paid the fare and getting mugged or worse is dramatically reduced with some common sense, why not?

This happened in DC as well. It also extended to pizza delivery. A Dominoe’s franchise was fined by a court because it stopped serving a part of a neighborhood where drivers were always getting robbed. I know a guy who worked for a National home improvement chain. He would get leads and inquires and go onsite and do an estimate for services. If a call /lead came in from a certain zip code, In almost all of the cases, their estimates were too expensive so he would not get paid. On top of that, he had his car vandalized and was threatened a couple of times just for being in the neighborhood. He solved his problem by simply speaking with the customer over the phone in an initial consultation gathering some information and then intentionally give them an estimate that was artificially high so as to disqualify his company so he would not have to travel into the bad neighborhood and risk his life for a most unlikely sale.

I am sure the “racist” buttons are going off . But, this not about race. It is about human behavior and economics . Small business service providers such as Uber, Lyft, pizza delivery, and home improvement contractors have enough economic challenges to worry about. Why should they risk their business and their lives in bad neighborhoods?

I can never forget a story that I read some years back.

Two young men (no need to be specific) called a Chinese restaurant to order food. (This was before delivery apps).

When the deliveryman came, the two young men killed him, and then they sat down to enjoy delicious Chinese food.

 

[AMart]

Back in the day, New York cabbies, particularly in Manhattan, were persecuted, fined, sued, etc. for not picking up Black people. If not getting paid the fare and getting mugged or worse is dramatically reduced with some common sense, why not?

This happened in DC as well. It also extended to pizza delivery. A Dominoe’s franchise was fined by a court because it stopped serving a part of a neighborhood where drivers were always getting robbed. I know a guy who worked for a National home improvement chain. He would get leads and inquires and go onsite and do an estimate for services. If a call /lead came in from a certain zip code, In almost all of the cases, their estimates were too expensive so he would not get paid. On top of that, he had his car vandalized and was threatened a couple of times just for being in the neighborhood. He solved his problem by simply speaking with the customer over the phone in an initial consultation gathering some information and then intentionally give them an estimate that was artificially high so as to disqualify his company so he would not have to travel into the bad neighborhood and risk his life for a most unlikely sale.

I am sure the “racist” buttons are going off . But, this not about race. It is about human behavior and economics . Small business service providers such as Uber, Lyft, pizza delivery, and home improvement contractors have enough economic challenges to worry about. Why should they risk their business and their lives in bad neighborhoods?

I can never forget a story that I read some years back.

Two young men (no need to be specific) called a Chinese restaurant to order food. (This was before delivery apps).

When the deliveryman came, the two young men killed him, and then they sat down to enjoy delicious Chinese food.

As far back as maybe the late 80's or early 90's pizza chains started red lining some hoods and would not deliver there.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Back in the day, New York cabbies, particularly in Manhattan, were persecuted, fined, sued, etc. for not picking up Black people. If not getting paid the fare and getting mugged or worse is dramatically reduced with some common sense, why not?

This happened in DC as well. It also extended to pizza delivery. A Dominoe’s franchise was fined by a court because it stopped serving a part of a neighborhood where drivers were always getting robbed. I know a guy who worked for a National home improvement chain. He would get leads and inquires and go onsite and do an estimate for services. If a call /lead came in from a certain zip code, In almost all of the cases, their estimates were too expensive so he would not get paid. On top of that, he had his car vandalized and was threatened a couple of times just for being in the neighborhood. He solved his problem by simply speaking with the customer over the phone in an initial consultation gathering some information and then intentionally give them an estimate that was artificially high so as to disqualify his company so he would not have to travel into the bad neighborhood and risk his life for a most unlikely sale.

I am sure the “racist” buttons are going off . But, this not about race. It is about human behavior and economics . Small business service providers such as Uber, Lyft, pizza delivery, and home improvement contractors have enough economic challenges to worry about. Why should they risk their business and their lives in bad neighborhoods?

I can never forget a story that I read some years back.

Two young men (no need to be specific) called a Chinese restaurant to order food. (This was before delivery apps).

When the deliveryman came, the two young men killed him, and then they sat down to enjoy delicious Chinese food.

As far back as maybe the late 80's or early 90's pizza chains started red lining some hoods and would not deliver there.

Is the redlining driven by racism or economic threat? Pizza and Chinese deliveries are not running charities or social justice concerns.

 

[AMart]

Back in the day, New York cabbies, particularly in Manhattan, were persecuted, fined, sued, etc. for not picking up Black people. If not getting paid the fare and getting mugged or worse is dramatically reduced with some common sense, why not?

This happened in DC as well. It also extended to pizza delivery. A Dominoe’s franchise was fined by a court because it stopped serving a part of a neighborhood where drivers were always getting robbed. I know a guy who worked for a National home improvement chain. He would get leads and inquires and go onsite and do an estimate for services. If a call /lead came in from a certain zip code, In almost all of the cases, their estimates were too expensive so he would not get paid. On top of that, he had his car vandalized and was threatened a couple of times just for being in the neighborhood. He solved his problem by simply speaking with the customer over the phone in an initial consultation gathering some information and then intentionally give them an estimate that was artificially high so as to disqualify his company so he would not have to travel into the bad neighborhood and risk his life for a most unlikely sale.

I am sure the “racist” buttons are going off . But, this not about race. It is about human behavior and economics . Small business service providers such as Uber, Lyft, pizza delivery, and home improvement contractors have enough economic challenges to worry about. Why should they risk their business and their lives in bad neighborhoods?

I can never forget a story that I read some years back.

Two young men (no need to be specific) called a Chinese restaurant to order food. (This was before delivery apps).

When the deliveryman came, the two young men killed him, and then they sat down to enjoy delicious Chinese food.

As far back as maybe the late 80's or early 90's pizza chains started red lining some hoods and would not deliver there.

Is the redlining driven by racism or economic threat? Pizza and Chinese deliveries are not running charities or social justice concerns.

It was because hood rats were attacking, sometimes killing, pizza delivery drivers. They would place a delivery order and set up an ambush.

 

[surada]

Another hard-working immigrant murdered by a native-born gangsta. Or: The conversation we aren't allowed to have over black violence.

​

A 17-year-old St. Louis man was charged with murder Saturday for the shooting death of a Ghanian Lyft driver who had immigrated to the United States and was saving up to bring his children over as well.​

​

Torian Wilson has been charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action for the killing of 45-year-old Elijah Newman, who was found dead late Thursday night in his car from a single gunshot wound to the torso.​

​

Elijah Newman was found dead in his car around 11 p.m. Thursday.​

​

Police tracked Wilson from his email address, which had been linked to a series of recent carjackings of ride-sharing drivers, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. The teenager was taken into custody with a gun that matched a bullet casing found near Newman’s body.​

​

“We are heartbroken by this tragic incident and our hearts are with Elijah’s family and friends during this incredibly difficult time,” Lyft said in a statement. “Safety is fundamental to Lyft and we stand ready to assist law enforcement with any investigation.”​

​

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St. Louis teen charged with murder of Lyft driver

My God.. I hope he gets life.

No I hope he gets the death penalty, there is no hope of ever changing him.

If his life ended by cop, he would be a martyr

Not necessarily. Do you always have such knee jerk reactions?

Judgement based on DECADES of observation.

Not knee-jerk. I only make it look easy.

I understand it takes awhile for leftists to catch up.

A terrible murder is a terrible murder. Forget race. The whole country has gone into a scary mode of violence and mass shootings. You want to contribute to the insanity?

 

[Polishprince]

The deceased is a black guy as well, a Ghanese motha fucka.

So the real question is where are the BLM protests against Mr. Wilson? They were so quick to attack Kyle Rittenhouse for shooting the paedophile in Kenosha. But nothing at all here?

 

[TheParser]

Well-meaning people say to forget "race" when it comes to food-delivery murders.

But, sadly, one cannot.

Almost all of the perps are young men of ethnicity X.

So businesses have to decide whether they wish to serve certain areas of our big cities.

Are some areas "underserved"?

You betcha.

And I can understand why.

 

[surada]

The deceased is a black guy as well, a Ghanese motha fucka.

So the real question is where are the BLM protests against Mr. Wilson? They were so quick to attack Kyle Rittenhouse for shooting the paedophile in Kenosha. But nothing at all here?

Rittenhouse traveled to another state to kill a pedophile? How did Rittenhouse know he was a pedophile?

 

[surada]

Well-meaning people say to forget "race" when it comes to food-delivery murders.

But, sadly, one cannot.

Almost all of the perps are young men of ethnicity X.

So businesses have to decide whether they wish to serve certain areas of our big cities.

Are some areas "underserved"?

You betcha.

And I can understand why.

Why should they deliver anything in high crime areas?

 

[TheParser]

Well-meaning people say to forget "race" when it comes to food-delivery murders.

But, sadly, one cannot.

Almost all of the perps are young men of ethnicity X.

So businesses have to decide whether they wish to serve certain areas of our big cities.

Are some areas "underserved"?

You betcha.

And I can understand why.

Why should they deliver anything in high crime areas?

Exactly!

And "high crime areas" is a euphemism for areas populated by two certain ethnicities.

So that's why "ethnicity" does figure into the discussion.

 

[surada]

Well-meaning people say to forget "race" when it comes to food-delivery murders.

But, sadly, one cannot.

Almost all of the perps are young men of ethnicity X.

So businesses have to decide whether they wish to serve certain areas of our big cities.

Are some areas "underserved"?

You betcha.

And I can understand why.

Why should they deliver anything in high crime areas?

Exactly!

And "high crime areas" is a euphemism for areas populated by two certain ethnicities.

So that's why "ethnicity" does figure into the discussion.

Poor people don't have to have high crime communities. I have seen plenty of low income areas that are NOT dangerous.

 

[Polishprince]

Back in the day, New York cabbies, particularly in Manhattan, were persecuted, fined, sued, etc. for not picking up Black people. If not getting paid the fare and getting mugged or worse is dramatically reduced with some common sense, why not?

This happened in DC as well. It also extended to pizza delivery. A Dominoe’s franchise was fined by a court because it stopped serving a part of a neighborhood where drivers were always getting robbed. I know a guy who worked for a National home improvement chain. He would get leads and inquires and go onsite and do an estimate for services. If a call /lead came in from a certain zip code, In almost all of the cases, their estimates were too expensive so he would not get paid. On top of that, he had his car vandalized and was threatened a couple of times just for being in the neighborhood. He solved his problem by simply speaking with the customer over the phone in an initial consultation gathering some information and then intentionally give them an estimate that was artificially high so as to disqualify his company so he would not have to travel into the bad neighborhood and risk his life for a most unlikely sale.

I am sure the “racist” buttons are going off . But, this not about race. It is about human behavior and economics . Small business service providers such as Uber, Lyft, pizza delivery, and home improvement contractors have enough economic challenges to worry about. Why should they risk their business and their lives in bad neighborhoods?

I can never forget a story that I read some years back.

Two young men (no need to be specific) called a Chinese restaurant to order food. (This was before delivery apps).

When the deliveryman came, the two young men killed him, and then they sat down to enjoy delicious Chinese food.

As far back as maybe the late 80's or early 90's pizza chains started red lining some hoods and would not deliver there.

Even before that. Pizzerias couldn't get the drivers to go into ghetto- even the black drivers. Too dangerous.

If the drivers were willing to risk life and limb, the restaurants might have thought different. But even then, that might have opened them up to litigation from the widows of the drivers for sending the men into death traps.