Someone explain the supposedly 30,000 ventilators for New York?

I'm asking a simple question... Is the WHO right or wrong regarding 1 of 7 Covid-19 cases require hospitalization and of those 5% require ventilators.
You all do the math 615,519 cases divided by 7 equals 87,931 hospitalized and 5% of those or 4,397 require ventilators. Where is that math incorrect?
Is your point that we don't need more ventilators?

The point is the math and the WHO indicates that Coumo's needs of 30,000 ventilators is questionable.
I don't know. I simply am pointing out the ambiguity of the vast numbers of ventilators and the WHO's statistics. Which is correct?
 
I'm asking a simple question... Is the WHO right or wrong regarding 1 of 7 Covid-19 cases require hospitalization and of those 5% require ventilators.
You all do the math 615,519 cases divided by 7 equals 87,931 hospitalized and 5% of those or 4,397 require ventilators. Where is that math incorrect?
Is your point that we don't need more ventilators?

The point is the math and the WHO indicates that Coumo's needs of 30,000 ventilators is questionable.
I don't know. I simply am pointing out the ambiguity of the vast numbers of ventilators and the WHO's statistics. Which is correct?
It's beyond question that Cuomo needs more ventilators.

NY hospitals are CURRENTLY putting two or more people on one vent because there is a shortage

And the number of cases is INCREASING
 
You guys know that it is not only the COVID patients that use ventilators....right?

There are actually other people still in the hospital, as crazy as that sounds to you all.
Presumably the liberals in new york already had vents for them
 
According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.


SO explain this math...
595,953 total cases as of 3/27/20 at 8:27 PM..
So according to the above:
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization or 595,953 divided by 7 equals 85,136 hospitalized Covid-19 patients .
AND of the 85,136 hospitalized.... 5% require ventilators or 4,257 ventilators....hmmm....

Please some one explain because IF I use 5% of the 595,953 cases need ventilators... that is 29,798 ventilators world wide!

Something doesn't make sense here...
View attachment 316187
It’s 5% of all cases require ventilators support. Not 5% of hospitalized patients.
Simple misunderstanding.

So 5% of all Coronavirus cases 615,519 (as of 3/28/20) would mean 30,775 ventilators are in USE now world-wide according to your misinterpretation.

Then where did Cuomo get his 30,000 ventilator requirements for how many cases... New York would have 615,519 cases alone?

Is that what you are saying? Again.. If New York will need 30,000 ventilators than that means New York would have 615,519 cases or With an estimated 19.45 million residents in 2019
that would mean 3% of New York would contract Covid-19 and 5% of the 615,519 or 30,000 ventilators.

See I'm just asking a logical question. If WHO says 5% of the hospitalized use ventilators and that 1 out of 7 cases are hospitalized... that would mean less than 5,000 ventilators in use NOW...again
according to the WHO. But YOU say 5% of the 615,519 require ventilators or about 30,000.... so does Gov. Cuomo think NY will have 615,519 cases when right now NY has 15,000 cases.
So tell me where the math is incorrect. New York has 15,000 cases today... to get to 615,000 cases that according to WHO require at most 30,000 ventilators... where did he gat that number?
 
According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.


SO explain this math...
595,953 total cases as of 3/27/20 at 8:27 PM..
So according to the above:
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization or 595,953 divided by 7 equals 85,136 hospitalized Covid-19 patients .
AND of the 85,136 hospitalized.... 5% require ventilators or 4,257 ventilators....hmmm....

Please some one explain because IF I use 5% of the 595,953 cases need ventilators... that is 29,798 ventilators world wide!

Something doesn't make sense here...
View attachment 316187
It’s 5% of all cases require ventilators support. Not 5% of hospitalized patients.
Simple misunderstanding.

So 5% of all Coronavirus cases 615,519 (as of 3/28/20) would mean 30,775 ventilators are in USE now world-wide according to your misinterpretation.

Then where did Cuomo get his 30,000 ventilator requirements for how many cases... New York would have 615,519 cases alone?

Is that what you are saying? Again.. If New York will need 30,000 ventilators than that means New York would have 615,519 cases or With an estimated 19.45 million residents in 2019
that would mean 3% of New York would contract Covid-19 and 5% of the 615,519 or 30,000 ventilators.

See I'm just asking a logical question. If WHO says 5% of the hospitalized use ventilators and that 1 out of 7 cases are hospitalized... that would mean less than 5,000 ventilators in use NOW...again
according to the WHO. But YOU say 5% of the 615,519 require ventilators or about 30,000.... so does Gov. Cuomo think NY will have 615,519 cases when right now NY has 15,000 cases.
So tell me where the math is incorrect. New York has 15,000 cases today... to get to 615,000 cases that according to WHO require at most 30,000 ventilators... where did he gat that number?

You’re looking at numbers as they exist now. Cuomo is looking at what could happen in the future. If you wait to get ventilators only when you need them, you’re too late.
 
As of Friday morning 3/17/20 , health officials have confirmed at least:

  • 44,635 total cases in New York State
  • 519 deaths from the coronavirus in the state
  • Over 25,398 cases in New York City
  • 365 deaths in New York City
According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.

This means today in New York..with 44,635 cases 6,376 are hospitalized and 5% of hospitalized need ventilators or 400 ventilators are in use in New York.
 
According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.


SO explain this math...
595,953 total cases as of 3/27/20 at 8:27 PM..
So according to the above:
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization or 595,953 divided by 7 equals 85,136 hospitalized Covid-19 patients .
AND of the 85,136 hospitalized.... 5% require ventilators or 4,257 ventilators....hmmm....

Please some one explain because IF I use 5% of the 595,953 cases need ventilators... that is 29,798 ventilators world wide!

Something doesn't make sense here...
View attachment 316187
It’s 5% of all cases require ventilators support. Not 5% of hospitalized patients.
Simple misunderstanding.

So 5% of all Coronavirus cases 615,519 (as of 3/28/20) would mean 30,775 ventilators are in USE now world-wide according to your misinterpretation.

Then where did Cuomo get his 30,000 ventilator requirements for how many cases... New York would have 615,519 cases alone?

Is that what you are saying? Again.. If New York will need 30,000 ventilators than that means New York would have 615,519 cases or With an estimated 19.45 million residents in 2019
that would mean 3% of New York would contract Covid-19 and 5% of the 615,519 or 30,000 ventilators.

See I'm just asking a logical question. If WHO says 5% of the hospitalized use ventilators and that 1 out of 7 cases are hospitalized... that would mean less than 5,000 ventilators in use NOW...again
according to the WHO. But YOU say 5% of the 615,519 require ventilators or about 30,000.... so does Gov. Cuomo think NY will have 615,519 cases when right now NY has 15,000 cases.
So tell me where the math is incorrect. New York has 15,000 cases today... to get to 615,000 cases that according to WHO require at most 30,000 ventilators... where did he gat that number?

You’re looking at numbers as they exist now. Cuomo is looking at what could happen in the future. If you wait to get ventilators only when you need them, you’re too late.

I agree... then please explain this:

As of Friday morning 3/17/20 , health officials have confirmed at least:
  • 44,635 total cases in New York State
  • 519 deaths from the coronavirus in the state
  • Over 25,398 cases in New York City
  • 365 deaths in New York City

According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.

This means today in New York..with 44,635 cases 6,376 are hospitalized and 5% of hospitalized need ventilators or 400 ventilators are in use in New York.
 
According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.


SO explain this math...
595,953 total cases as of 3/27/20 at 8:27 PM..
So according to the above:
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization or 595,953 divided by 7 equals 85,136 hospitalized Covid-19 patients .
AND of the 85,136 hospitalized.... 5% require ventilators or 4,257 ventilators....hmmm....

Please some one explain because IF I use 5% of the 595,953 cases need ventilators... that is 29,798 ventilators world wide!

Something doesn't make sense here...
View attachment 316187
It’s 5% of all cases require ventilators support. Not 5% of hospitalized patients.
Simple misunderstanding.

So 5% of all Coronavirus cases 615,519 (as of 3/28/20) would mean 30,775 ventilators are in USE now world-wide according to your misinterpretation.

Then where did Cuomo get his 30,000 ventilator requirements for how many cases... New York would have 615,519 cases alone?

Is that what you are saying? Again.. If New York will need 30,000 ventilators than that means New York would have 615,519 cases or With an estimated 19.45 million residents in 2019
that would mean 3% of New York would contract Covid-19 and 5% of the 615,519 or 30,000 ventilators.

See I'm just asking a logical question. If WHO says 5% of the hospitalized use ventilators and that 1 out of 7 cases are hospitalized... that would mean less than 5,000 ventilators in use NOW...again
according to the WHO. But YOU say 5% of the 615,519 require ventilators or about 30,000.... so does Gov. Cuomo think NY will have 615,519 cases when right now NY has 15,000 cases.
So tell me where the math is incorrect. New York has 15,000 cases today... to get to 615,000 cases that according to WHO require at most 30,000 ventilators... where did he gat that number?

You’re looking at numbers as they exist now. Cuomo is looking at what could happen in the future. If you wait to get ventilators only when you need them, you’re too late.

I agree... then please explain this:

As of Friday morning 3/17/20 , health officials have confirmed at least:
  • 44,635 total cases in New York State
  • 519 deaths from the coronavirus in the state
  • Over 25,398 cases in New York City
  • 365 deaths in New York City

According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.

This means today in New York..with 44,635 cases 6,376 are hospitalized and 5% of hospitalized need ventilators or 400 ventilators are in use in New York.

Your math is incorrect as I already explained.
 
According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.


SO explain this math...
595,953 total cases as of 3/27/20 at 8:27 PM..
So according to the above:
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization or 595,953 divided by 7 equals 85,136 hospitalized Covid-19 patients .
AND of the 85,136 hospitalized.... 5% require ventilators or 4,257 ventilators....hmmm....

Please some one explain because IF I use 5% of the 595,953 cases need ventilators... that is 29,798 ventilators world wide!

Something doesn't make sense here...
View attachment 316187


:yapyapyapf: You know facts and logic don't apply when it comes to "orange man bad"...
 
I'm asking a simple question... Is the WHO right or wrong regarding 1 of 7 Covid-19 cases require hospitalization and of those 5% require ventilators.
You all do the math 615,519 cases divided by 7 equals 87,931 hospitalized and 5% of those or 4,397 require ventilators. Where is that math incorrect?
Is your point that we don't need more ventilators?

The point is the math and the WHO indicates that Coumo's needs of 30,000 ventilators is questionable.
I don't know. I simply am pointing out the ambiguity of the vast numbers of ventilators and the WHO's statistics. Which is correct?
It's beyond question that Cuomo needs more ventilators.

NY hospitals are CURRENTLY putting two or more people on one vent because there is a shortage

And the number of cases is INCREASING

Actually no they are not putting 2 or more people on ventilators because there is a shortage. They said they were doing so to test how it would work.
 
You guys know that it is not only the COVID patients that use ventilators....right?

There are actually other people still in the hospital, as crazy as that sounds to you all.
Aren’t they using them now? The requests are for more ventilators, so your argument is irrelevant.
 
According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.


SO explain this math...
595,953 total cases as of 3/27/20 at 8:27 PM..
So according to the above:
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization or 595,953 divided by 7 equals 85,136 hospitalized Covid-19 patients .
AND of the 85,136 hospitalized.... 5% require ventilators or 4,257 ventilators....hmmm....

Please some one explain because IF I use 5% of the 595,953 cases need ventilators... that is 29,798 ventilators world wide!

Something doesn't make sense here...
View attachment 316187
It’s 5% of all cases require ventilators support. Not 5% of hospitalized patients.
Simple misunderstanding.

So 5% of all Coronavirus cases 615,519 (as of 3/28/20) would mean 30,775 ventilators are in USE now world-wide according to your misinterpretation.

Then where did Cuomo get his 30,000 ventilator requirements for how many cases... New York would have 615,519 cases alone?

Is that what you are saying? Again.. If New York will need 30,000 ventilators than that means New York would have 615,519 cases or With an estimated 19.45 million residents in 2019
that would mean 3% of New York would contract Covid-19 and 5% of the 615,519 or 30,000 ventilators.

See I'm just asking a logical question. If WHO says 5% of the hospitalized use ventilators and that 1 out of 7 cases are hospitalized... that would mean less than 5,000 ventilators in use NOW...again
according to the WHO. But YOU say 5% of the 615,519 require ventilators or about 30,000.... so does Gov. Cuomo think NY will have 615,519 cases when right now NY has 15,000 cases.
So tell me where the math is incorrect. New York has 15,000 cases today... to get to 615,000 cases that according to WHO require at most 30,000 ventilators... where did he gat that number?

You’re looking at numbers as they exist now. Cuomo is looking at what could happen in the future. If you wait to get ventilators only when you need them, you’re too late.
Exactly. Cuomo shoulda bought the 15,000 ventilators in 2015 instead of turning them down to buy solar panels instead.
 
The figures has nothing to do with who makes ventilators..
A) As of 3/29/20 &:59 AM 615,519 cases..
B) According to the World Health Organization, 1 in 7 cases require hospitalization and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.
In a coronavirus crisis, who deserves a ventilator?
So divide 615,519 cases by 7 (1 of 7 cases require hospitalization) or 87,931 cases require hospitalizations of which
C) 5% of those hospitalized, i.e. 87,931 is 4,397 cases or 4,397 ventilators.

Please explain that.


View attachment 316292

If you haven't figured it our for yourself nothing anyone might do could help you to understand.
 
According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.


SO explain this math...
595,953 total cases as of 3/27/20 at 8:27 PM..
So according to the above:
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization or 595,953 divided by 7 equals 85,136 hospitalized Covid-19 patients .
AND of the 85,136 hospitalized.... 5% require ventilators or 4,257 ventilators....hmmm....

Please some one explain because IF I use 5% of the 595,953 cases need ventilators... that is 29,798 ventilators world wide!

Something doesn't make sense here...
View attachment 316187
It’s 5% of all cases require ventilators support. Not 5% of hospitalized patients.
Simple misunderstanding.

So 5% of all Coronavirus cases 615,519 (as of 3/28/20) would mean 30,775 ventilators are in USE now world-wide according to your misinterpretation.

Then where did Cuomo get his 30,000 ventilator requirements for how many cases... New York would have 615,519 cases alone?

Is that what you are saying? Again.. If New York will need 30,000 ventilators than that means New York would have 615,519 cases or With an estimated 19.45 million residents in 2019
that would mean 3% of New York would contract Covid-19 and 5% of the 615,519 or 30,000 ventilators.

See I'm just asking a logical question. If WHO says 5% of the hospitalized use ventilators and that 1 out of 7 cases are hospitalized... that would mean less than 5,000 ventilators in use NOW...again
according to the WHO. But YOU say 5% of the 615,519 require ventilators or about 30,000.... so does Gov. Cuomo think NY will have 615,519 cases when right now NY has 15,000 cases.
So tell me where the math is incorrect. New York has 15,000 cases today... to get to 615,000 cases that according to WHO require at most 30,000 ventilators... where did he gat that number?

You’re looking at numbers as they exist now. Cuomo is looking at what could happen in the future. If you wait to get ventilators only when you need them, you’re too late.

I agree... then please explain this:

As of Friday morning 3/17/20 , health officials have confirmed at least:
  • 44,635 total cases in New York State
  • 519 deaths from the coronavirus in the state
  • Over 25,398 cases in New York City
  • 365 deaths in New York City

According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.

This means today in New York..with 44,635 cases 6,376 are hospitalized and 5% of hospitalized need ventilators or 400 ventilators are in use in New York.

Your math is incorrect as I already explained.

My MATH is NOT incorrect.
What maybe incorrect is the WHO estimate that 1 out of 7 cases require hospitalization. And of those hospitalized, 5% require ventilators.
That is pure and simple math then.
615,000 cases divided by 7 (i.e. 1 of 7 cases are hospitalized..right?) means 87,931 cases are hospitalized. So you think that ALL cases require ventilators...i.e. 87,931.
which is contrary to what the WHO states that 5% of the hospitalized require ventilators which would be 4,397 ventilators.
My math is NOT incorrect. The WHO assumptions maybe wrong.

How long do COVID-19 patients stay in hospital?
The UK’s Chief Medical Advisor Chris Whitty said yesterday in the government’s daily press conference the average patient spends eight days in hospital with COVID-19.
If a patient has serious complications and requires a ventilator, the stay is doubled to an average of 16 days.
The World Health Organisation says about 80 percent of people with COVID-19 recover without needing any specialist treatment.
Only about one in six becomes seriously ill “and develops difficulty breathing”.
 
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According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.


SO explain this math...
595,953 total cases as of 3/27/20 at 8:27 PM..
So according to the above:
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization or 595,953 divided by 7 equals 85,136 hospitalized Covid-19 patients .
AND of the 85,136 hospitalized.... 5% require ventilators or 4,257 ventilators....hmmm....

Please some one explain because IF I use 5% of the 595,953 cases need ventilators... that is 29,798 ventilators world wide!

Something doesn't make sense here...
View attachment 316187
It’s 5% of all cases require ventilators support. Not 5% of hospitalized patients.
Simple misunderstanding.

So 5% of all Coronavirus cases 615,519 (as of 3/28/20) would mean 30,775 ventilators are in USE now world-wide according to your misinterpretation.

Then where did Cuomo get his 30,000 ventilator requirements for how many cases... New York would have 615,519 cases alone?

Is that what you are saying? Again.. If New York will need 30,000 ventilators than that means New York would have 615,519 cases or With an estimated 19.45 million residents in 2019
that would mean 3% of New York would contract Covid-19 and 5% of the 615,519 or 30,000 ventilators.

See I'm just asking a logical question. If WHO says 5% of the hospitalized use ventilators and that 1 out of 7 cases are hospitalized... that would mean less than 5,000 ventilators in use NOW...again
according to the WHO. But YOU say 5% of the 615,519 require ventilators or about 30,000.... so does Gov. Cuomo think NY will have 615,519 cases when right now NY has 15,000 cases.
So tell me where the math is incorrect. New York has 15,000 cases today... to get to 615,000 cases that according to WHO require at most 30,000 ventilators... where did he gat that number?

You’re looking at numbers as they exist now. Cuomo is looking at what could happen in the future. If you wait to get ventilators only when you need them, you’re too late.

I agree... then please explain this:

As of Friday morning 3/17/20 , health officials have confirmed at least:
  • 44,635 total cases in New York State
  • 519 deaths from the coronavirus in the state
  • Over 25,398 cases in New York City
  • 365 deaths in New York City

According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.

This means today in New York..with 44,635 cases 6,376 are hospitalized and 5% of hospitalized need ventilators or 400 ventilators are in use in New York.

Your math is incorrect as I already explained.

My MATH is NOT incorrect.
What maybe incorrect is the WHO estimate that 1 out of 7 cases require hospitalization. And of those hospitalized, 5% require ventilators.
That is pure and simple math then.
615,000 cases divided by 7 (i.e. 1 of 7 cases are hospitalized..right?) means 87,931 cases are hospitalized. So you think that ALL cases require ventilators...i.e. 87,931.
which is contrary to what the WHO states that 5% of the hospitalized require ventilators which would be 4,397 ventilators.
My math is NOT incorrect. The WHO assumptions maybe wrong.

You are incorrectly stating the WHO estimates. They say 5% of all cases require ventilatory support, not 5% of all hospitalized cases.

As I already explained.
 

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