So You Think The ILLEGAL ALIENS Don't Have An Agenda? Think Again...

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Hold on to your hat... if these videos don't wake you up, nothing will...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCCVUot-hBo[/ame]

 

[actsnoblemartin]

Americans better wake up, before their country is stolen.

Hold on to your hat... if these videos don't wake you up, nothing will...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCCVUot-hBo

 

[Alpha1]

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77


2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html


3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spe nt for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are
caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0 604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: < FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=4>http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ".
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml



The total cost is a whooping .
$ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR

 

[007]

Americans better wake up, before their country is stolen.

You're not kidding, because it's happening, right now, right under our noses, and the apathy about it is very disturbing.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77


2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html


3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spe nt for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are
caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0 604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: < FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=4>http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ".
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml



The total cost is a whooping .
$ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR

$338 billion PER YEAR for our "border war" is costing us THREE TIMES MORE per year than the Iraq war which has averaged about $100 billion per year since 2003.
http://zfacts.com/p/447.html

 

[William Joyce]

It's basically a war against WHITES. We need to wake up and fight back.

 

[Gunny]

It's basically a war against WHITES. We need to wake up and fight back.

It's a war against people. regardless of origin or ethnicity, entering and/or residing in this country illegally.

 

[William Joyce]

It's a war against people. regardless of origin or ethnicity, entering and/or residing in this country illegally.

So why are Hispanics, legal or illegal, banding together?

Why are the Hispanics marching and yelling "gringos out!"?

Why are the Hispanics saying "Go Back to Europe!"

Why are blacks siding with Hispanics?

Why is everyone saying opposing immigration is "racist"?

Why is white guilt the No. 1 factor in allowing illegals?

Why are Hispanics saying, "whitey owes us"?

 

[Gunny]

So why are Hispanics, legal or illegal, banding together?

Why are the Hispanics marching and yelling "gringos out!"?

Why are the Hispanics saying "Go Back to Europe!"

Why are blacks siding with Hispanics?

Why is everyone saying opposing immigration is "racist"?

Why is white guilt the No. 1 factor in allowing illegals?

Why are Hispanics saying, "whitey owes us"?

Why don't you take trip over to Politics and Current Affairs ... there's a mod over there currently residing in the US who is an illegal WHITE GUY from Canada.

You demand YOUR right to march, ro voice your opinion ... you would deny it to others?

 

[p kirkes]

In following the debate of US Immigration policy/law one is immediately struck by the polaraization of attitudes. It's "round'em up and ship 'em back" or "let's make a deal".

My observations of Mexican immigrants come from patrolling my Parish (County) as a Sheriff's Posse member. Several times a week I have the opportunity to see, first hand, what is happening in the construction, gas/oil drilling, landscaping and fast food/resturant Industries. This is not an exhaustive list.

In the past few years the Mexican presence in NW Louisiana has dramatically increased. How many are legal or illegal immigrants I have no idea, however, Wal-Mart, Kroger and Brookshire super markets have dedicated asiles for imported Mexican food to satisfy the demands of the new customers. Sunday evening used to be the time the Mexicans shopped. Now it's any time day or night and there are whole families shopping.

What do I observe? They are working and apparently working hard. Crime here is very low and predominately black on black.

As I patrol the Mexicans pause on their jobs and warily look at my Sheriff's car, ready to run if I make a move that alarms them. It's patently obvious.
On the other hand if my partner and I wave "hello", they immediately relax, wave back and go back to work.

The point I'm trying to make is that is all the laborer's I see are Mexican.
Now the skill trades, carpenters, bricklayers, plumbers and such have white or black foremen or lead workers but the Mexicans are the apprentices. No white or black apprentices that I note. The Mexicans are doing the heavy lifting.

I'm thinking that the policy makers in our government should take a realistic look at what the contribution Mexican labor is making to our economy and incorporate them as tax paying aliens with a reasonable path to citizenship if so desired.

My area is booming in construction, both home and business. It's being fueled by cheap Mexican labor. Would this level of development even be happening if it weren't for the Mexicans?

Not every alien, legal or illegal wants citizenship, but they all want jobs which Mexico can't seem to supply. The US economy employs them and provides a paycheck which they send "home". But is their home improving? Not according to the images I see on the news and documentaries. Where is the disconnect? The Clinton administration put forth the notion that equality in standard of living would go a long way to solve the illegal immigration problem. Sounds good but doesn't seem to be practiced. Are their hard earned dollars going to corrupt Mexican mafia as extortion?

As to my choice of the phrase for a title, I noted last week a large plain Jane white truck shuttling between houses under construction, driven by a little Mexican woman with another riding along in the second seat. Spray painted on the sides and back in poor penmanship was "cinco de mayo". After a few minutes of observation I found that this truck was bring home cooked meals to the workers. Tamales, chile, roll ups, etc, etc. Now that's a real chili wagon. FWIW.

I'll be glad to discuss this topic more when I return in a day or so.

Cheers

 

[Gunny]

In following the debate of US Immigration policy/law one is immediately struck by the polaraization of attitudes. It's "round'em up and ship 'em back" or "let's make a deal".

My observations of Mexican immigrants come from patrolling my Parish (County) as a Sheriff's Posse member. Several times a week I have the opportunity to see, first hand, what is happening in the construction, gas/oil drilling, landscaping and fast food/resturant Industries. This is not an exhaustive list.

In the past few years the Mexican presence in NW Louisiana has dramatically increased. How many are legal or illegal immigrants I have no idea, however, Wal-Mart, Kroger and Brookshire super markets have dedicated asiles for imported Mexican food to satisfy the demands of the new customers. Sunday evening used to be the time the Mexicans shopped. Now it's any time day or night and there are whole families shopping.

What do I observe? They are working and apparently working hard. Crime here is very low and predominately black on black.

As I patrol the Mexicans pause on their jobs and warily look at my Sheriff's car, ready to run if I make a move that alarms them. It's patently obvious.
On the other hand if my partner and I wave "hello", they immediately relax, wave back and go back to work.

The point I'm trying to make is that is all the laborer's I see are Mexican.
Now the skill trades, carpenters, bricklayers, plumbers and such have white or black foremen or lead workers but the Mexicans are the apprentices. No white or black apprentices that I note. The Mexicans are doing the heavy lifting.

I'm thinking that the policy makers in our government should take a realistic look at what the contribution Mexican labor is making to our economy and incorporate them as tax paying aliens with a reasonable path to citizenship if so desired.

My area is booming in construction, both home and business. It's being fueled by cheap Mexican labor. Would this level of development even be happening if it weren't for the Mexicans?

Not every alien, legal or illegal wants citizenship, but they all want jobs which Mexico can't seem to supply. The US economy employs them and provides a paycheck which they send "home". But is their home improving? Not according to the images I see on the news and documentaries. Where is the disconnect? The Clinton administration put forth the notion that equality in standard of living would go a long way to solve the illegal immigration problem. Sounds good but doesn't seem to be practiced. Are their hard earned dollars going to corrupt Mexican mafia as extortion?

As to my choice of the phrase for a title, I noted last week a large plain Jane white truck shuttling between houses under construction, driven by a little Mexican woman with another riding along in the second seat. Spray painted on the sides and back in poor penmanship was "cinco de mayo". After a few minutes of observation I found that this truck was bring home cooked meals to the workers. Tamales, chile, roll ups, etc, etc. Now that's a real chili wagon. FWIW.

I'll be glad to discuss this topic more when I return in a day or so.

Cheers

I think you oversimplify the factors involved. There isn't just one side or the other, there are several sides. In addition to your two, there are those who are interested in enforcing the law and protecting our borders, regardless who the illegals are or where they come from, and there are the pure racists who hate them just because they aren't white.

I'm a journeyman electrician in San Antonio, so I do good deal of observing the trades, and who is doing what. There is validity to your statement they are doing the heavy lifting, but it's because that's all they know, and in general (with the proverbial exceptions) show little willingness to excel. He who knows the least gets to hump the most material.

There is a way to get here legally. If they're illegal, they need to go. If they're hiring illegals, their wallets need to be hit hard enough to make an impression.

 

[eots]

So why are Hispanics, legal or illegal, banding together?

Why are the Hispanics marching and yelling "gringos out!"?

Why are the Hispanics saying "Go Back to Europe!"

Why are blacks siding with Hispanics?

Why is everyone saying opposing immigration is "racist"?

Why is white guilt the No. 1 factor in allowing illegals?

Why are Hispanics saying, "whitey owes us"?

if im not mistaken you missed gunnyl most excellent point


The new group You Don't Speak for Me! formed when Col. Al Rodriguez became fed up watching media coverage of the mass protests of April. "Their leaders were saying it was a march for immigrant rights and a Latino/Hispanic movement," says Rodriguez. "I thought to myself, 'Hey, those are illegal aliens, not immigrants!'" Col. Rodriguez began speaking out to others saying, "I'm of Hispanic ancestry and those people are acting like they speak for me. Well, you don't speak for me!"

Col. Rodriguez began asking others to help him reach more people who felt the same way and You Don't Speak for Me! formed from this loose coalition of individuals. It is a group of concerned Americans of Hispanic/Latino heritage, some first or second generation, others recent legal immigrants, who believe illegal immigration harms America and a guest worker amnesty will do the same


You Don't Speak for MeIt is a group of concerned Americans of Hispanic/Latino heritage, some first or second generation, others recent legal immigrants, who believe illegal ...
dontspeakforme.org/ - 5k -

 

[LuvRPgrl]

So why are Hispanics, legal or illegal, banding together?

Why are the Hispanics marching and yelling "gringos out!"?

Why are the Hispanics saying "Go Back to Europe!"

Why are blacks siding with Hispanics?

Why is everyone saying opposing immigration is "racist"?

Why is white guilt the No. 1 factor in allowing illegals?

Why are Hispanics saying, "whitey owes us"?

Nice try, but blacks, on a percentage basis, give less support to illegals than whites.

This has been going on for decades, as far back as my memory goes. Our nation thrives on cheap labor. Slavery is gone, cheap child labor is gone, cheap female labor is gone, without cheap labor to compete with overseas cheap labor, us manufacturing would be crippled. Immigrants, legal or illegal are helping our economy.

Taking over? get real. they said the same about the japs in the sixties.

as for the govt benefits, thats another issue altogether. We should cut all aid to illegals, or legal immigrants, if they cant support themselves, kick em out, if they can support themselves, legal or illegal, let em work. We all benefit from their cheap labor.

 

[kreati0n]

Well, *someone* has to build my patio.

 

[Gunny]

Well, *someone* has to build my patio.

It really is not all that difficult to do yourself.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

It really is not all that difficult to do yourself.

most of what the mexicans do isnt all that difficult

 

[JeffWartman]

most of what the mexicans do isnt all that difficult

Way to disspell the myth that the anti-illegal immigrant crowd is just xenophobic bigots...

 

[p kirkes]

I think you oversimplify the factors involved. there are those who are interested in enforcing the law and protecting our borders,
I'm a journeyman electrician in San Antonio. He who knows the least gets to hump the most material.

There is a way to get here legally. If they're illegal, they need to go. If they're hiring illegals, their wallets need to be hit hard enough to make an impression.

GunnyL;

I was born and raised in San Antonio. Central Catholic High class of '57.
All the homes my family lived in are still standing, in good repair, from Buena Vista Steet to Mistletoe Ave north of San Pedro park to Castle Hills.

But back on topic. Yes, there are other points of view, the two I mentioned are the ones most vocally expressed in my neck of the woods.

Yes, securing our borders, especially the Mexican one is paramount. And yes, penalizing, severely, employers who hire illegals is a very practical way to stem the tide of illegal immigrants entering our country.

You know this Mexican "problem" is entirely manageable but Washington seems so inept. There must be a whole lot of Ox's that are in danger of being gored for this problem to have continured for so long and escalating to the point of voter revolt.

 

[doniston]

There is a way to get here legally. If they're illegal, they need to go. If they're hiring illegals, their wallets need to be hit hard enough to make an impression.

This has been said over and over again, but you just don't get it.

They need to GO?? NUTS> there are just too many of them. it is to late to force a mass exodus They have to be assimilated into our culture. that means make them legal --- National Photo ID is the best place to start,

plus, Force employers to assist their workers to get sufficient legal papers to continue here (like Green cards or work permits) "IF" the employers want those workers to continue their employment.

Just shipping them home, WON'T WORK.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

There is a way to get here legally. If they're illegal, they need to go. If they're hiring illegals, their wallets need to be hit hard enough to make an impression.

Unless you have been through the process, I wouldnt suggest bringing this up

and there is NOT a way to bring the number of workers over that have come in the last 30 years. If they werent here, many, many people who are currently home owners, wouldnt be.

My wife went through the process, and it was pure hell. We were already married. We almost gave up, and we were as legit as anyone.
I was seriously considering having her flown to Mexico and bringing her across.
SHe is college educated, ran her own businesss, was gainfully employed at the time, had never collected un employment of any kind or govt assistence, owned property, and yet it took over 2 years and a lot of brutally emotional times wondering if we would be denied or not.
If we forget to cross one t, or dot one i, we get screwed. And believe me, the number of forms and the complexity of them was extremely difficult, even for my wife and I. We are both college educated and she has a very high IQ, bordering genius, seriously.
If it was that difficult for us, imagine what the average IQ person would be going through.
Then, If the paperwork is screwed up by OUR govt, we get screwed.

My aunt in law was petioning her brother, after an 8 year process, the govt lost the paperwork, and guess what? They had to start all over, and by then, he was denied at the get go because now he is too old.