So will it now be a blood bath this November in favor of Democrats?

Of course not, however a strong Dim majority in the Senate could lead to new abortion laws on a federal level.
Right now the Senate could pass legislation that codifies Roe. It likely would not pass however since the Dims do not have a filibuster-proof majority. They also likely do not have even a simple majority to end the filibuster.
However, if they picked up enough seats in November (they'll never get enough) the issue could change quickly.
No, there won't be new abortion laws on the federal level. Did you not read the Supreme Court draft? The entire point is that the issue is reserved for the states under the 10th amendment. There's nothing in the Constitution that allows the federal government to legislate this issue. If Congress passed such a law, it would be struck down by the Supreme Court.
 
No, there won't be new abortion laws on the federal level. Did you not read the Supreme Court draft? The entire point is that the issue is reserved for the states under the 10th amendment. There's nothing in the Constitution that allows the federal government to legislate this issue. If Congress passed such a law, it would be struck down by the Supreme Court.
Actually the very circumstances of the results of strike down Roe V Wade, gives the federal government the power to regulate it. Because the first thing conservatives say about the result of strike down Roe, is that women with the means, will travel to states where abortions remain legal. That very premise gives congress the power to regulate it. As the abortion business, is clearly commerce (pay for services), and women traveling between states (interstate) defining that commerce. And as article 1 clearly gives congress the power to regulate commerce between the several states.
 
Scalia ruled that the federal marijuana law applied to california, in a case where a person grew medicinal marijuana for his own consumption. The USSC said the law was justified under the interstate commerce clause, even though it involved marijuana grown and consumed within the states foundries (not interstate), and was grown for legal medicinal purposes of self consumption (not commerce)
 
I guess that, theoretically, this could be a game changer for some independents, and that young people who wouldn't have voted before this will vote and vote for the Dems.

I'm just not convinced that abortion rights are that high a priority for most voters, in the grand scheme of things. This will still be fresh this November, so we're gonna find out.
They better leave their cellphones at home this time.
 
For months it's been a foregone conclusion the GOP would see gains in the House and Senate, that would give them the majority in both chambers.
Even in a normal presidency, the opposing party would likely see gains. However, this is far far from a normal presidency, and the majority of the electorate was likely to take their wrath out on today's woke Dimocrat party in a big way!

Hold everything! We now have the likely demise of Roe to throw in the mix, and this could have a huge impact on the equation.
We now have some pundits claiming this will energize women and their pro-abortion supporters to the point that they'll keep the majority in both chambers.


IMO, those that will be out screeching in the streets in the coming months, would be voting a straight Dim ticket anyway. This will leave it up to those moderates out there that may have not bothered to show up to vote, to now be energized enough to sway things one way or the other.

My opinion is, the GOP will still take control of both the House and Senate but will not win as many seats as they would have before the Roe factor became part of the story.
I'm an independent. You all know I hate the dirty dems at this point. I won't vote for the dems, but I will not be voting for any extra republicans either. What the hell is wrong with you anti-abortionists? Most women support abortion, not because they want one, but because they fear rape of women and children and being forced to carry the offspring or having a medical condition from already dead fetus to a down syndrome child that should not be born and that creates a medical crisis.

The vast majority of women who use abortion as their birth control should not be having kids---abortions lower their chances of ever having any which is a good a thing to boot especially in an overpopulated world.

PUshing the abortion nonsense, gives the dems power over the republicans...now when the dems cheat as they always do and win a few or many races as a result, they are going to say it was because of the abortion issue which may or may not be the case.

Stupid to push the antiabortion issue when the republicans WERE clearly winning.
 
They may not be able to afford the gas to get to the polling location. :eusa_whistle:
The dems will cry "disenfranchised".
There will be another outbreak of COVID-19 just before the election but in time for EVERYBODY alive and dead at every address they ever lived at to get a mail-in ballot. Probably more people will vote in the Midterm Election than are registered in our nation. The Democrats will win of course and the courts will refuse to overturn the elections.
 
It will depend. If Biden only does token student loan foregiveness, he will piss off a lot of people at this point. They have gone from talking about something grand to talking about $10K. If you have $225K in student loan debt you will never pay off anyway, $10K is gonna piss you off. The roe thing plus a grand gesture on loans could hold the dems both houses. Inflation plus some pissy ass student loan thing could be > than the roe thing and allow the GOP to limp across the finish line with some gains. Neither party will have 60 in the Senate so it will be the last 2 years for the next 2 years

Forgiveness= the government paying the tab on $1.75T

there is no forgiveness for the US taxpayer...just a bunch of idiots in the US who can't pay their fuckin bills.

The problem with student debt is that it is GUARANTEED by the federal government.

Why can't people get their tiny fucking brains around the simplicity of this?

GET .Gov OUT...prices will fall.

No forgiveness required.
 
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Will the Roe-v-Wade dust-up be enough to bring the Dems out in-force?

Good question... your average American voter has the attention-span of a sand flea, and November is a very long way away, in that context...

Not to mention that these are only mid-terms and that 2024 might as well be 2
124 insofar as that 'average' voter attention-span is concerned...
 
Forgiveness= the government paying the tab on $1.75T

there is no forgiveness for the US taxpayer...just a bunch of idiots in the US who can't pay their fuckin bills.

The problem with student debt is that it is GUARANTEED by the federal government.

Why can't people get their tiny fucking brains around the simplicity of this?

GET .Gov OUT...prices will fall.

No forgiveness required.

The government already owns the debt dumbass. They do not need to pay themselves. The only cost is the interest to service the bonds that were issued to lend the money years ago and the federal reserve currently holds $9T in bonds and its profits get turned over to the government so it can cost nothing no matter how you cut it.
 
The government already owns the debt dumbass. They do not need to pay themselves. The only cost is the interest to service the bonds that were issued to lend the money years ago and the federal reserve currently holds $9T in bonds and its profits get turned over to the government so it can cost nothing no matter how you cut it.

So you mean to tell me that if the government just says 'fuck it' to $1.75T in debt there will be zero knock on, and that won't affect the bond market?

Inflation?

Bond rating?

It's all just a moral battle?

It's ethereal maaaaaan...money is only in our head...maaaaaan.
 
So you mean to tell me that if the government just says 'fuck it' to $1.75T in debt there will be zero knock on, and that won't affect the bond market?

Inflation?

Bond rating?

It's all just a moral battle?

It's ethereal maaaaaan...money is only in our head...maaaaaan.

It is all in your head. The US government doesn't pay its bonds. They "refinance" them in perpetuity.

Either way, Biden is gonna do what he is gonna do. Nothing you can do to stop it but teeth gnash.
 
I still think the roe vs Wade thing was released to try and galvanize people with democrats.

The timing is too perfect on a subject that inflames so many. Inflation, Afghanistan, covid, climate, none of those things suddenly matter anymore as people rush to the Democrats who are saying "your body your choice". This leak just gave the left a lot of votes and thrust them into the light.
 

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