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Dear Pole Smoking LibTard. When you fellate The FBI and approve of their unethical, unlawful and immoral behavior this just makes you a prostitute and a whore.The search for Government documents has everything to do with stolen government records and nothing to do with Benedict Donalds' fraudulent claims of a stolen election scheme in several states. Of course the budding fascist of the New Republicans have never been able to prove their claims in any court in any state that could have change the results of the Dirty Ones loss in 2020.
The President by Law has a right to His Presidential Records.
He also has 5 years to catalogue them, classify or declassify them, make them all available to the Public, or declare them private for the next 12 years where NO ONE, not even THE FBI can look at them without the President's permission.
So I have to ask, exactly what LAW did THE FBI try to use for this Publicity Stunt and Panty RAID, because The President having Presidential Records in his home is completely legal?
The FBI still refuses after 2 years to produce Federally Court ordered documents regarding Operation Russian Collusion Crossfire Hurricane.
The FBI still refuses to release the so called Affidavit to The Public, nor will they show We The People and Unredacted Copy of The So Called Warrant. They have zero justification in law for the dog and pony show political hit job they carried out for a desperate and incompetent Biden Regime.
Obama still has Presidential Records in his home to this day. Some of them will go to his Library and some of them will go back to NARA when he is done with them.
It was a legally obtained warrant because Trump stole our stuff.IMO the so called RAID was not only unethical and ugly, it was Illegal. There is no basis in law for it.
UR a funny little dude.Dear Pole Smoking LibTard. When you fellate The FBI and approve of their unethical, unlawful and immoral behavior this just makes you a prostitute and a whore.
A President cannot steal Presidential Records. They are his for he and his staff to go through, catalogue, and classify etc. etc. How in The Hell do you think Presidents build Presidential Libraries you Lying Piece of Shit?
Lol.Libs should know the truth will eventually come out.
---"In any event, after what they have done, the place will never be the same,” Trump said. “It was 'ransacked,' and in far different condition than the way I left it. Many Agents - And they didn't even take off their shoes in my bedroom. Nice!!!"
Trump Returns to Mar-a-Lago, Upset the FBI Didn’t Take Their Shoes Off During Raid
The former president has repeatedly criticized the FBI for its raid of his Mar-a-Lago home, previously calling the conduct a “deep and ugly search” done by “vicious monsters, controlled by radical-left scoundrels.”---
The records were in sealed boxes already scheduled to be turned over to NARA just like all former president's in the past have done, well except for Obama who still has 30 million records in his possession.This is incorrect. The archives assumes control of all presidential records.
"The PRA says that “upon the conclusion of a President’s term of office, … the Archivist … shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President.” More importantly, it says that the United States “shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.”
The Presidential Records Act and the Mar-a-Lago Documents
Who can possess the documents, and when?www.lawfareblog.com
I repeat, it was not legal for Trump to have those documents in his home.
The 3 potential crimes are listed in the affidavit.
- 18 U.S.C. §§ 793: Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, which carries a penalty of up to 10 years in prison.
- 18 U.S.C. §§ 2071: Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally, which carries a penalty of up to three years in prison and disqualification from holding office (more on this below).
- 18 U.S.C. §§ 1519: Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy, which carries a penalty of up to 20 years in prison.
Whataboutism based on false equivalence.
BTW...the Russian collusion investigation was a republican one so besides whataboutism and false equivalence, it makes no sense.
He went through the proper channels. Trump did not.
It was a legally obtained warrant because Trump stole our stuff.
I want our stuff back.
The records were in sealed boxes already scheduled to be turned over to NARA just like all former president's in the past have done, well except for Obama who still has 30 million records in his possession.
The records in question are not personal presidential records, they are presidential records. A huge distinction.The president can retain for his own personal use, his personal presidential records. After a period of time NARA can take them over. Presidents have a lot of discretion on when and how this happens. The president and his staff can classify, declassify and categorize his personal records.
The Bush's Clinton, Obama all have Presidential Records in their possession, and in their libraries. It is not illegal for The President to have Presidential Records, and he can have copies of them as well if he desires.
Also the code you cited has nothing to do with The Presidential Records Act. Call me when Gestapo Garner raids Obama, or Bush's homes or presidential libraries for their Presidential Records. Obama still has over 30 million Presidential Records in his possession.
So you are incorrect.
Your comments are nothing but politically motivated propaganda.
Thank you for playing let's tell more lies for Libtards in America.
44 U.S. Code § 2204 - Restrictions on access to Presidential records
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(a)Prior to the conclusion of a President’s term of office or last consecutive term of office, as the case may be, the President shall specify durations, not to exceed 12 years, for which access shall be restricted with respect to information, in a Presidential record, within one or more of the following categories:
(1)
(A)
specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and (B) in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order;
(2)
relating to appointments to Federal office;
(3)
specifically exempted from disclosure by statute (other than sections 552 and 552b of title 5, United States Code), provided that such statute (A) requires that the material be withheld from the public in such a manner as to leave no discretion on the issue, or (B) establishes particular criteria for withholding or refers to particular types of material to be withheld;
(4)
trade secrets and commercial or financial information obtained from a person and privileged or confidential;
(5)
confidential communications requesting or submitting advice, between the President and the President’s advisers, or between such advisers; or
(6)
personnel and medical files and similar files the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.
(b)
(1)Any Presidential record or reasonably segregable portion thereof containing information within a category restricted by the President under subsection (a) shall be so designated by the Archivist and access thereto shall be restricted until the earlier of—
(A)
(i)
the date on which the former President waives the restriction on disclosure of such record, or
(ii)
the expiration of the duration specified under subsection (a) for the category of information on the basis of which access to such record has been restricted; or
(B)
upon a determination by the Archivist that such record or reasonably segregable portion thereof, or of any significant element or aspect of the information contained in such record or reasonably segregable portion thereof, has been placed in the public domain through publication by the former President, or the President’s agents.
(2)Any such record which does not contain information within a category restricted by the President under subsection (a), or contains information within such a category for which the duration of restricted access has expired, shall be exempt from the provisions of subsection (c) until the earlier of—
(A)
the date which is 5 years after the date on which the Archivist obtains custody of such record pursuant to section 2203(d)(1); [1] or
(B)
the date on which the Archivist completes the processing and organization of such records or integral file segment thereof.
(3)
During the period of restricted access specified pursuant to subsection (b)(1), the determination whether access to a Presidential record or reasonably segregable portion thereof shall be restricted shall be made by the Archivist, in the Archivist’s discretion, after consultation with the former President, and, during such period, such determinations shall not be subject to judicial review, except as provided in subsection (e) of this section. The Archivist shall establish procedures whereby any person denied access to a Presidential record because such record is restricted pursuant to a determination made under this paragraph, may file an administrative appeal of such determination. Such procedures shall provide for a written determination by the Archivist or the Archivist’s designee, within 30 working days after receipt of such an appeal, setting forth the basis for such determination.
(c)
(1)
Subject to the limitations on access imposed pursuant to subsections (a) and (b), Presidential records shall be administered in accordance with section 552 of title 5, United States Code, except that paragraph (b)(5) of that section shall not be available for purposes of withholding any Presidential record, and for the purposes of such section such records shall be deemed to be records of the National Archives and Records Administration. Access to such records shall be granted on nondiscriminatory terms.
(2)
Nothing in this Act shall be construed to confirm, limit, or expand any constitutionally-based privilege which may be available to an incumbent or former President.
(d)
Upon the death or disability of a President or former President, any discretion or authority the President or former President may have had under this chapter, except section 2208, shall be exercised by the Archivist unless otherwise previously provided by the President or former President in a written notice to the Archivist.
(e)
The United States District Court for the District of Columbia shall have jurisdiction over any action initiated by the former President asserting that a determination made by the Archivist violates the former President’s rights or privileges.
(f)
The Archivist shall not make available any original Presidential records to any individual claiming access to any Presidential record as a designated representative under section 2205(3) of this title if that individual has been convicted of a crime relating to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records of the Archives.
(Added Pub. L. 95–591, § 2(a), Nov. 4, 1978, 92 Stat. 2525; amended Pub. L. 98–497, title I, § 107(b)(7), Oct. 19, 1984, 98 Stat. 2287; Pub. L. 113–187, §§ 2(a)(2)(A), (d), 8(4), Nov. 26, 2014, 128 Stat. 2005, 2006, 2011.)
The records were in sealed boxes already scheduled to be turned over to NARA just like all former president's in the past have done, well except for Obama who still has 30 million records in his possession.
The president can retain for his own personal use, his personal presidential records. After a period of time NARA can take them over. Presidents have a lot of discretion on when and how this happens. The president and his staff can classify, declassify and categorize his personal records. The Bush's Clinton, Obama all have Presidential Records in their possession, and in their libraries. It is not illegal for The President to have Presidential Records, and he can have copies of them as well if he desires.
Also the code you cited has nothing to do with The Presidential Records Act. Call me when Gestapo Garner raids Obama, or Bush's homes or presidential libraries for their Presidential Records. Obama still has over 30 million Presidential Records in his possession.
So you are incorrect.
Your comments are nothing but politically motivated propaganda.
Thank you for playing let's tell more lies for Libtards in America.
44 U.S. Code § 2204 - Restrictions on access to Presidential records
prev | next44 U.S. Code § 2204 - Restrictions on access to Presidential records
(a)Prior to the conclusion of a President’s term of office or last consecutive term of office, as the case may be, the President shall specify durations, not to exceed 12 years, for which access shall be restricted with respect to information, in a Presidential record, within one or more of the following categories:
(1)
(A)
specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and (B) in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order;
(2)
relating to appointments to Federal office;
(3)
specifically exempted from disclosure by statute (other than sections 552 and 552b of title 5, United States Code), provided that such statute (A) requires that the material be withheld from the public in such a manner as to leave no discretion on the issue, or (B) establishes particular criteria for withholding or refers to particular types of material to be withheld;
(4)
trade secrets and commercial or financial information obtained from a person and privileged or confidential;
(5)
confidential communications requesting or submitting advice, between the President and the President’s advisers, or between such advisers; or
(6)
personnel and medical files and similar files the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.
(b)
(1)Any Presidential record or reasonably segregable portion thereof containing information within a category restricted by the President under subsection (a) shall be so designated by the Archivist and access thereto shall be restricted until the earlier of—
(A)
(i)
the date on which the former President waives the restriction on disclosure of such record, or
(ii)
the expiration of the duration specified under subsection (a) for the category of information on the basis of which access to such record has been restricted; or
(B)
upon a determination by the Archivist that such record or reasonably segregable portion thereof, or of any significant element or aspect of the information contained in such record or reasonably segregable portion thereof, has been placed in the public domain through publication by the former President, or the President’s agents.
(2)Any such record which does not contain information within a category restricted by the President under subsection (a), or contains information within such a category for which the duration of restricted access has expired, shall be exempt from the provisions of subsection (c) until the earlier of—
(A)
the date which is 5 years after the date on which the Archivist obtains custody of such record pursuant to section 2203(d)(1); [1] or
(B)
the date on which the Archivist completes the processing and organization of such records or integral file segment thereof.
(3)
During the period of restricted access specified pursuant to subsection (b)(1), the determination whether access to a Presidential record or reasonably segregable portion thereof shall be restricted shall be made by the Archivist, in the Archivist’s discretion, after consultation with the former President, and, during such period, such determinations shall not be subject to judicial review, except as provided in subsection (e) of this section. The Archivist shall establish procedures whereby any person denied access to a Presidential record because such record is restricted pursuant to a determination made under this paragraph, may file an administrative appeal of such determination. Such procedures shall provide for a written determination by the Archivist or the Archivist’s designee, within 30 working days after receipt of such an appeal, setting forth the basis for such determination.
(c)
(1)
Subject to the limitations on access imposed pursuant to subsections (a) and (b), Presidential records shall be administered in accordance with section 552 of title 5, United States Code, except that paragraph (b)(5) of that section shall not be available for purposes of withholding any Presidential record, and for the purposes of such section such records shall be deemed to be records of the National Archives and Records Administration. Access to such records shall be granted on nondiscriminatory terms.
(2)
Nothing in this Act shall be construed to confirm, limit, or expand any constitutionally-based privilege which may be available to an incumbent or former President.
(d)
Upon the death or disability of a President or former President, any discretion or authority the President or former President may have had under this chapter, except section 2208, shall be exercised by the Archivist unless otherwise previously provided by the President or former President in a written notice to the Archivist.
(e)
The United States District Court for the District of Columbia shall have jurisdiction over any action initiated by the former President asserting that a determination made by the Archivist violates the former President’s rights or privileges.
(f)
The Archivist shall not make available any original Presidential records to any individual claiming access to any Presidential record as a designated representative under section 2205(3) of this title if that individual has been convicted of a crime relating to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records of the Archives.
(Added Pub. L. 95–591, § 2(a), Nov. 4, 1978, 92 Stat. 2525; amended Pub. L. 98–497, title I, § 107(b)(7), Oct. 19, 1984, 98 Stat. 2287; Pub. L. 113–187, §§ 2(a)(2)(A), (d), 8(4), Nov. 26, 2014, 128 Stat. 2005, 2006, 2011.)
That just earned you an ignore.What stolen election?
GARLAND PANTY RAID IN 3, 2, 1...That is false. Trump's lawyer lied and told the archives all records had been returned. This was after the records were subpoenaed by the grand jury but was subsequently ignored.
The records in question are not personal presidential records, they are presidential records. A huge distinction.
That said, the classification of the records is irrelevant to the crimes listed in the affidavit.
Yes. As stated they went through the proper channels. They didn't defy subpoenas and lie on official documents about having the documents. (Which is probably at least part of the obstruction charge)
You keep repeating this false equivalence. It's not fooling anyone
No, my statements are fact...your statements may have been fact if all Trump had was personals documents (but not sure) but he would still be subject to obstruction charges.
Your link doesn't really cover the law regarding what happens to presidential records at the end of a term. It is dealing with the president asserting the documents are not available to the public but still maintained by NARA.
Read the first half of the same document. It is much more applicable.
nypost.com
Haha. I can't believe you still let Trump lead around the nose with his lies.GARLAND PANTY RAID IN 3, 2, 1...
Accusations are flying fast and furious regarding last week’s FBI raid at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home. In my Wednesday piece for The Post, I noted that 30 million pages of Obama administration records had been trucked to Chicago. The Obama Foundation, working with the National Archives, promised to digitize and put them online. Almost six years after the records arrived at a Chicago-area warehouse, that hasn’t happened.
There’s no sainthood for Obama, National Archives in Trump FBI raid uproar
At this point, National Archives bureaucrats seem to have adapted the early motto of National Review, standing “athwart history, yelling Stop.” But as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wisely warn…
The NARA had access to the 15 boxes of sealed records already scheduled to be transferred to NARA, so why did Biden order this publicity stunt? Mid Term Desperation after The Nation became disgusted with the January 6 HOAX and the so called committee doing their kangaroo court investigation, that's why.Haha. I can't believe you still let Trump lead around the nose with his lies.
"In its statement, NARA said that it obtained “exclusive legal and physical custody” of Obama’s records when he left office in 2017. It said that about 30 million pages of unclassified records were transferred to a NARA facility in the Chicago area and that they continue to be maintained “exclusively by NARA.”
By the way...if you are looking for some ocean front property in Kansas...I know a guy. ROFL.
nypost.com
When they take personal property as trophies.when the FBi lies about what they're looking for. When they go judge shopping...when the doj is doing it to target the political opposition of the party in charge. When they put known liars and criminals on the FBI payroll. WHen the FBI knows the info is a lie and they go with it anyway in order to harm a sitting president. When the fbi knows that it is a political plot by the opposition to destroy the opposition presidential candidate.
The NARA had access to the 15 boxes of sealed records already scheduled to be transferred to NARA, so why did Biden order this publicity stunt?
Mid Term Desperation after The Nation became disgusted with the January 6 HOAX and the so called committee doing their kangaroo court investigation, that's why.
They already did. I linked it.When Obama finally hands over the 30 million Presidential Records he has stored in a Chicago Warehouse 6 years after leaving The White House, then we will listen to more of your Russian Collusion Hoax and Conspiracy Theories.
Chicago GARLAND PANTY RAID in 3, 2, 1 ....
Accusations are flying fast and furious regarding last week’s FBI raid at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home. In my Wednesday piece for The Post, I noted that 30 million pages of Obama administration records had been trucked to Chicago. The Obama Foundation, working with the National Archives, promised to digitize and put them online. Almost six years after the records arrived at a Chicago-area warehouse, that hasn’t happened.
There’s no sainthood for Obama, National Archives in Trump FBI raid uproar
At this point, National Archives bureaucrats seem to have adapted the early motto of National Review, standing “athwart history, yelling Stop.” But as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wisely warn…
6 Years Later and Obama still has 30 Million Presidential Records in a damn warehouse in Chicago?Haha. I can't believe you still let Trump lead around the nose with his lies.
"In its statement, NARA said that it obtained “exclusive legal and physical custody” of Obama’s records when he left office in 2017. It said that about 30 million pages of unclassified records were transferred to a NARA facility in the Chicago area and that they continue to be maintained “exclusively by NARA.”
By the way...if you are looking for some ocean front property in Kansas...I know a guy. ROFL.
6 Years after leaving office and Obama still has 30 Million Presidential Records in a Chicago Warehouse.Biden didn't order it.
No they didn't have access and according to the document signed by Trump's laywer they had 0 documents. That is obstruction of justice. Of course this is months after Trump ignored a subpoena.
Jan 6 wasn't a hoax. Their really was an attempted insurrection. A lot of Traitors at the capital that day. A lot of Traitors still support those Traitors too. It's like a traitor circle jerk.
They already did. I linked it.
If you can't read maybe political forums are not for you?
Yeah. You posted that nonsense already and it was debunked.
You are flailing.
Come with something new next time. You are wasting my time.
It's his HOME.
Yawn. The warehouse is under NARA control.6 Years Later and Obama still has 30 Million Presidential Records in a damn warehouse in Chicago?
Why hasn't Gestapo Garland raided that warehouse?
Let's be honest: You are just another lying Conspiracy Whacko with Zero Credibility.
Not even your dog likes you. Do you even have a dog? I bet you are more of the gerbil type.
Shrug...evidently besides not being able to read, you can't count either. You already posted this lie.6 Years after leaving office and Obama still has 30 Million Presidential Records in a Chicago Warehouse.
All I hear from you is more Obama Jizz Gargling on that.
Face it, you are nothing but a hateful Conspiracy Loon, and swallow anything your LibTard DemNazi friends feed you becaue 1.) You like the way it tastes and 2.) You have no gag reflex.
Every Liberal after Watching CNN
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Biden did order it even confirmed by your media. After that initial lie none of the rest is worth readingBiden didn't order it.
No they didn't have access and according to the document signed by Trump's laywer they had 0 documents. That is obstruction of justice. Of course this is months after Trump ignored a subpoena.
Jan 6 wasn't a hoax. Their really was an attempted insurrection. A lot of Traitors at the capital that day. A lot of Traitors still support those Traitors too. It's like a traitor circle jerk.
They already did. I linked it.
If you can't read maybe political forums are not for you?
Yeah. You posted that nonsense already and it was debunked.
You are flailing.
Come with something new next time. You are wasting my time.
No he did not. He made a super donation to na association so they'd be off his back. Bribe. He's yet to turn ANY back over.I didn't realize congress was investigating it.
Did they not see the part where Trump has admitted he has our documents?
Obama used the proper channels to take our stuff. Your media masters have duped you. False equivalence dismissed.
I want our stuff back.
