So this is why they cheered Trump on "Repeal and replace Obamacare!"

[WaitingFor2020]

Ah, now I get it. They want CHEAPER health care and more docs to choose from. Hahahahhaa.....Trump talks, but the fucker doesn't listen:

Thu Nov 17, 2016 | 2:46pm EST
Americans want Trump to focus on healthcare first: poll

NEW YORK - Healthcare is the top issue Americans want Donald Trump to address during his first 100 days in the White House, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Thursday, an apparent rebuke of outgoing President Barack Obama's signature reform, Obamacare.
.....
The poll shows what priorities Americans would set on the new president, but it does not measure exactly what people want him to do. A separate Kaiser Health Tracking Poll found in late October that most Americans want cheaper prescription drugs and access to larger networks of doctors and hospitals. Only a minority, 37 percent, want to repeal Obamacare altogether and start over, as Trump has promised to do.

"We can't afford it -- that's the problem," said Daphne Saunders, 50, of LaFollette, Tennessee, who took the Reuters/Ipsos poll, explaining why she picked healthcare as the top issue.
...."
Americans want Trump to focus on healthcare first: poll

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The American people told you this in the 2010 midterms....you didn't listen

 

[Slade3200]

Im curious, if the mandate was dropped from Obamacare would that be acceptable to the opposers? If not, then what other elements do you want dropped?

 

[bendog]

Im curious, if the mandate was dropped from Obamacare would that be acceptable to the opposers? If not, then what other elements do you want dropped?

Ironically, Bennett got tea partied by Lee for proposing tax credits for individuals to buy insurance. And it's not a bad idea to allow any citizen of any state to buy a plan offered in any other state. So, depending on how big the tax credit is, and how it's paid for, this plan might not be terrible.

GOP senator: It will take 2 years to replace Obamacare

I was for the Bennett approach way back when.

And a valid criticism of Medicare, and single payer, is there is no incentive for recipients to self-prioritize, or contain, the amount of health care they consume. Depending on the size of Ryan's plan to offer finacanical support to seniors, it might not be crazy. But, when it's an indisputable fact that at least 15% of us have dementia by age 80, I don't see a Randian market solution.

 

[WillowTree]

Drop the mandate and the penalty.

 

[occupied]

It's a guarantee that "Trumpcare", as it will come to be known, will be a horrible disaster, as well as the most expensive oxymoron ever. They will certainly allow insurance companies to sell across state lines prompting a race to the bottom among the states in regulation, afterward all the insurance companies will relocate to the state willing to let them fuck over people the most. That's how it happened when they deregulated credit cards, Delaware won the race and now credit cards are so affordable and fair. (sarcasm)

 

[tyroneweaver]

Pre existing conditions would have to be dropped (but it won't) or you don't have a health care system.

 

[Slade3200]

Drop the mandate and the penalty.

Is that the only element of Obamacare that you disagree with?

 

[WaitingFor2020]

The American people told you this in the 2010 midterms....you didn't listen

McConnell made 'em do it, sucker. Now he's going to make sure you have nothing when you really need it. Congrats.

 

[Snouter]

Ah, now I get it. They want CHEAPER health care and more docs to choose from. Hahahahhaa.....

First of all, yes "Obamacare" is very expensive and the premiums are increasing dramatically each year, unless you don't make any money, like most Crooked Hillary supporters, then it is free. Second, polls have been proven to be fake news for the most part.

 

[bendog]

You can drop the mandate and the penalty for not buying in, but you have to have some bad consequence for people who'd just not carry any coverage till they got cancer or something, and then buy in. Like Medicare, Obamacare could have just put financial penalties for people who chose not to get healthcare, and then put in claims as soon as they join up. That's not draconian. Medicare has it, and so does stuff like dental and vision insurance.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Ah, now I get it. They want CHEAPER health care and more docs to choose from. Hahahahhaa.....Trump talks, but the fucker doesn't listen:

Thu Nov 17, 2016 | 2:46pm EST
Americans want Trump to focus on healthcare first: poll

NEW YORK - Healthcare is the top issue Americans want Donald Trump to address during his first 100 days in the White House, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Thursday, an apparent rebuke of outgoing President Barack Obama's signature reform, Obamacare.
.....
The poll shows what priorities Americans would set on the new president, but it does not measure exactly what people want him to do. A separate Kaiser Health Tracking Poll found in late October that most Americans want cheaper prescription drugs and access to larger networks of doctors and hospitals. Only a minority, 37 percent, want to repeal Obamacare altogether and start over, as Trump has promised to do.

"We can't afford it -- that's the problem," said Daphne Saunders, 50, of LaFollette, Tennessee, who took the Reuters/Ipsos poll, explaining why she picked healthcare as the top issue.
...."
Americans want Trump to focus on healthcare first: poll

Yeah, we know how trustworthy polls are, aren't we Hillary cheerleaders!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The American people told you this in the 2010 midterms....you didn't listen

McConnell made 'em do it, sucker. Now he's going to make sure you have nothing when you really need it. Congrats.

McConnell forced millions of voters to throw the ones who voted for Obamacare out on their ear? Really?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Drop the mandate and the penalty.

Then you can't cover people with pre-existing conditions.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The American people told you this in the 2010 midterms....you didn't listen

McConnell made 'em do it, sucker. Now he's going to make sure you have nothing when you really need it. Congrats.

McConnell forced millions of voters to throw the ones who voted for Obamacare out on their ear? Really?

You're wrong as usual:

DownWithTyranny!: 31 Of The 34 "Democrats" Who Voted Against Obamacare Were Ousted From Congress By Angry Constituents

31 of the 34 Democrats who voted AGAINST Obamacare are gone.

 

[bendog]

Drop the mandate and the penalty.

Then you can't cover people with pre-existing conditions.

There has to be a penalty, I agree. There has to be some incentive for people to access healthcare before they get a chronic illness, because often it's cheaper to treat sooner.

The mandate was more to force healthy people to pay into the system so their money would cover sicker people. That's the fatal flaw politically to Obamacare, and Obama saw it early when he opposed the mandate in the 08 primaries. The answer was simple and laid out long ago by Krugman in Conscience of a Liberal .... rape the 1%. But the dems let that opportunity slip away .... and it won't come back.

We could offer smaller premium support to healthy people if preexisting folks were in a different insurance pool. But the gop seems intent on ending Medicaid as we know it, and that would be the easiest place to put preexisting. The biggest cost driver for Medicaid is nursing homes. The second is chronic illness. Schips and the Obamacare expansion don't cost that much ... relative to other costs.

There was some talk about the gummit funding a separate insurance pool for preexisting, but if my soon to be dementiaed memory serves, it was deemed too expensive by the gop.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Drop the mandate and the penalty.

Then you can't cover people with pre-existing conditions.

We could if barry and the establishment hadn't flooded our country with illegals that live off the public dole.

 

[WillowTree]

Drop the mandate and the penalty.

Is that the only element of Obamacare that you disagree with?

Well, lessee! I disagree with forcing men to pay for maternity care!

 

[Missourian]

Thank you for posting yet another biased poll...I will waste no time reading it.

In other news, polls indicate that Hillary Clinton has a 98% near certainty of winning the presidency.

 

[Kosh]

Im curious, if the mandate was dropped from Obamacare would that be acceptable to the opposers? If not, then what other elements do you want dropped?

There about 3 or 4 good things in Obamacare, the other 30 million are bad..

Easier to repeal and replace with something new and add in the 3 or 4 good parts (which those good parts were in Nixoncare).