So now I am the "resistance"?

[JoeB131]

I also see not point in supporting Israel.
Jews are not the legitimate population of Palestine.
They were invaders in 1000 BC, were defeated and forced to leave after only a few hundred years, and are (or from), illegal European immigrants now.
They clearly do not know how to play fairly and are illegally stealing homes and farms from the native Palestinians.

Actually, I wouldn't even go THAT far. Most of the Zionists are Europeans who aren't a Semitic people at all. They just adopted their religion. They don't share anything with the ancient Hebrews but a bastardized version of their Bronze Age Superstitions, but the same can be said for Muslims or Christians.

But the point is, 90% of our problems with the Middle East is because we support Israel. Otherwise, we wouldn't care about them and they wouldn't care about us.

Untrue. Palestine has only been called Palestine since 1967. It was always Judea. And we don't "support" Israel. It is a military contract. Educate yourself please.

That's not true. The British called it Palestine, the Romans called it Palestine. Actually, Judea was a temporary fixture, if anything... it was usually part of someone else's better empire.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I also see not point in supporting Israel.
Jews are not the legitimate population of Palestine.
They were invaders in 1000 BC, were defeated and forced to leave after only a few hundred years, and are (or from), illegal European immigrants now.
They clearly do not know how to play fairly and are illegally stealing homes and farms from the native Palestinians.

Actually, I wouldn't even go THAT far. Most of the Zionists are Europeans who aren't a Semitic people at all. They just adopted their religion. They don't share anything with the ancient Hebrews but a bastardized version of their Bronze Age Superstitions, but the same can be said for Muslims or Christians.

But the point is, 90% of our problems with the Middle East is because we support Israel. Otherwise, we wouldn't care about them and they wouldn't care about us.

Untrue. Palestine has only been called Palestine since 1967. It was always Judea. And we don't "support" Israel. It is a military contract. Educate yourself please.

That's not true. The British called it Palestine, the Romans called it Palestine. Actually, Judea was a temporary fixture, if anything... it was usually part of someone else's better empire.

No shithead. Romans called it that as an insult because the Judeans primary enemy was the Philistines. It was never temporary. For a history major you don’t know shit about fuck. Idiot.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I also see not point in supporting Israel.
Jews are not the legitimate population of Palestine.
They were invaders in 1000 BC, were defeated and forced to leave after only a few hundred years, and are (or from), illegal European immigrants now.
They clearly do not know how to play fairly and are illegally stealing homes and farms from the native Palestinians.

Actually, I wouldn't even go THAT far. Most of the Zionists are Europeans who aren't a Semitic people at all. They just adopted their religion. They don't share anything with the ancient Hebrews but a bastardized version of their Bronze Age Superstitions, but the same can be said for Muslims or Christians.

But the point is, 90% of our problems with the Middle East is because we support Israel. Otherwise, we wouldn't care about them and they wouldn't care about us.

Untrue. Palestine has only been called Palestine since 1967. It was always Judea. And we don't "support" Israel. It is a military contract. Educate yourself please.

That's not true. The British called it Palestine, the Romans called it Palestine. Actually, Judea was a temporary fixture, if anything... it was usually part of someone else's better empire.

Oh and Joe. You’re a fat loser. Who was the President of “Palestine” in 1946. I ll Patiently wait for your fucking answer. Go rattle. Please. Please tattle. Dick.

 

[JoeB131]

No shithead. Romans called it that as an insult because the Judeans primary enemy was the Philistines. It was never temporary. For a history major you don’t know shit about fuck. Idiot.

Actually, the Jews hadn't lived in Palestine for 1800 years... So, yeah, it was temporary...

Oh and Joe. You’re a fat loser.

Dude, you spend too much time obsessing over other people's weight. Do you have a fat dude fetish?

 

[Flopper]

DJT garnered 10mil more votes than in 2016 but still lost or looks like will lose by ~7mil votes. So the country wants to go Socialist. So now I am the de-facto resistance? Why? Do 77mil really want to pack the court, make PR and DC states, fund the Green New Deal, censor people they disagree with and support massive tax hikes??!!? Say it ain't so Joe.

I am pro the following:

• 2nd amendment - Right to Bear Arms
• Enhanced border security
• Pro choice (men and women up to 20 weeks)
• America First when it comes to manufacturing
• Strong military - continued military spend, as it also helps the private sector
• Fracking - Energy independence
• Continued support for Israel
• Small Government
• Gay Marriage/LGB Rights
• Big Tech accountability. If you're not an open platform you should not be regulated as such.
• Equality for all NOT Equity

I am Anti:

• Paris Accords - I like saving the environment but we should not be paying excess costs for this especially when Russia and China are the biggest polluters.
• Trans girls playing sports vs. biological girls. Unfair advantage.
• Increase in corporate and personal tax rates - would increase unemployment, encourage corporate inversions.
• Nationalized Healthcare but support a revamping of the current healthcare system. Make it more like auto insurance.
• Free college education - make it affordable by forcing colleges who charge significantly high tuition if the graduate cannot garner a job sufficient to pay that loan. Watch how quickly they stop charging $70k per year for sociology majors.
• Letting China off the hook for COVID-19 and for consistently stealing trade secrets and trying to undermine our economy.
• Doing anything with Iran until they admit they fund terror groups and cease that practice.
• Biased Media (need to be held accountable - unsure as to how)
• Censorship of any and all kinds.
• Defund the Police.
• Green New Deal
• Making PR and DC states
• Packing the Court
• Belief the Country is Systemically racist

So now I am the minority? Scary

No the country does not want to go socialist. The country is socialist, at least to some extent. I'm sure you are aware that essentially every nation on earth with just a couple of exceptions is both capitalist and socialist. Democrats and Republicans simple disagree on how much. I know of very few people in either party that wants the country to go 100% in either direction. As long as neither has complete control of government for a long period, there will some balance. Politicians make all kinds of promises to get elected but the reality is any lasting change has to involve congress which tempers those promises.

Republicans have been just as eager to pack the courts as democrats. The difference is republicans have done it.

Well....I hope you’re right. For example I do not want socialized healthcare nor do I want all college debt forgiven. Crazy talk IMO

Id you mean government becoming the healthcare provider for the nation, that's not going to happen. The goverment will eventually become the primary healthcare insurer. College financial aid is such a mess, I don't think it will ever get straighten out.

 

[dblack]

DJT garnered 10mil more votes than in 2016 but still lost or looks like will lose by ~7mil votes. So the country wants to go Socialist. So now I am the de-facto resistance? Why? Do 77mil really want to pack the court, make PR and DC states, fund the Green New Deal, censor people they disagree with and support massive tax hikes??!!? Say it ain't so Joe.

I am pro the following:

• 2nd amendment - Right to Bear Arms
• Enhanced border security
• Pro choice (men and women up to 20 weeks)
• America First when it comes to manufacturing
• Strong military - continued military spend, as it also helps the private sector
• Fracking - Energy independence
• Continued support for Israel
• Small Government
• Gay Marriage/LGB Rights
• Big Tech accountability. If you're not an open platform you should not be regulated as such.
• Equality for all NOT Equity

I am Anti:

• Paris Accords - I like saving the environment but we should not be paying excess costs for this especially when Russia and China are the biggest polluters.
• Trans girls playing sports vs. biological girls. Unfair advantage.
• Increase in corporate and personal tax rates - would increase unemployment, encourage corporate inversions.
• Nationalized Healthcare but support a revamping of the current healthcare system. Make it more like auto insurance.
• Free college education - make it affordable by forcing colleges who charge significantly high tuition if the graduate cannot garner a job sufficient to pay that loan. Watch how quickly they stop charging $70k per year for sociology majors.
• Letting China off the hook for COVID-19 and for consistently stealing trade secrets and trying to undermine our economy.
• Doing anything with Iran until they admit they fund terror groups and cease that practice.
• Biased Media (need to be held accountable - unsure as to how)
• Censorship of any and all kinds.
• Defund the Police.
• Green New Deal
• Making PR and DC states
• Packing the Court
• Belief the Country is Systemically racist

So now I am the minority? Scary

No the country does not want to go socialist. The country is socialist, at least to some extent. I'm sure you are aware that essentially every nation on earth with just a couple of exceptions is both capitalist and socialist. Democrats and Republicans simple disagree on how much. I know of very few people in either party that wants the country to go 100% in either direction. As long as neither has complete control of government for a long period, there will some balance. Politicians make all kinds of promises to get elected but the reality is any lasting change has to involve congress which tempers those promises.

Republicans have been just as eager to pack the courts as democrats. The difference is republicans have done it.

Well....I hope you’re right. For example I do not want socialized healthcare nor do I want all college debt forgiven. Crazy talk IMO

In you mean government becoming the healthcare provider for the nation, that's not going to happen. The goverment will eventually become the primary healthcare insurer. College financial aid is such a mess, I don't think it will ever get straighten out.

The irony of advocating for government control of heath insurance, and acknowledging the failure of college financial aid. In the same paragaph!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

DJT garnered 10mil more votes than in 2016 but still lost or looks like will lose by ~7mil votes. So the country wants to go Socialist. So now I am the de-facto resistance? Why? Do 77mil really want to pack the court, make PR and DC states, fund the Green New Deal, censor people they disagree with and support massive tax hikes??!!? Say it ain't so Joe.

I am pro the following:

• 2nd amendment - Right to Bear Arms
• Enhanced border security
• Pro choice (men and women up to 20 weeks)
• America First when it comes to manufacturing
• Strong military - continued military spend, as it also helps the private sector
• Fracking - Energy independence
• Continued support for Israel
• Small Government
• Gay Marriage/LGB Rights
• Big Tech accountability. If you're not an open platform you should not be regulated as such.
• Equality for all NOT Equity

I am Anti:

• Paris Accords - I like saving the environment but we should not be paying excess costs for this especially when Russia and China are the biggest polluters.
• Trans girls playing sports vs. biological girls. Unfair advantage.
• Increase in corporate and personal tax rates - would increase unemployment, encourage corporate inversions.
• Nationalized Healthcare but support a revamping of the current healthcare system. Make it more like auto insurance.
• Free college education - make it affordable by forcing colleges who charge significantly high tuition if the graduate cannot garner a job sufficient to pay that loan. Watch how quickly they stop charging $70k per year for sociology majors.
• Letting China off the hook for COVID-19 and for consistently stealing trade secrets and trying to undermine our economy.
• Doing anything with Iran until they admit they fund terror groups and cease that practice.
• Biased Media (need to be held accountable - unsure as to how)
• Censorship of any and all kinds.
• Defund the Police.
• Green New Deal
• Making PR and DC states
• Packing the Court
• Belief the Country is Systemically racist

So now I am the minority? Scary

No the country does not want to go socialist. The country is socialist, at least to some extent. I'm sure you are aware that essentially every nation on earth with just a couple of exceptions is both capitalist and socialist. Democrats and Republicans simple disagree on how much. I know of very few people in either party that wants the country to go 100% in either direction. As long as neither has complete control of government for a long period, there will some balance. Politicians make all kinds of promises to get elected but the reality is any lasting change has to involve congress which tempers those promises.

Republicans have been just as eager to pack the courts as democrats. The difference is republicans have done it.

Well....I hope you’re right. For example I do not want socialized healthcare nor do I want all college debt forgiven. Crazy talk IMO

In you mean government becoming the healthcare provider for the nation, that's not going to happen. The goverment will eventually become the primary healthcare insurer. College financial aid is such a mess, I don't think it will ever get straighten out.

Therein lies the problem....

 

[flacaltenn]

Thread had a good run.. Just too many topics. And even a few more crept in.. Moderation can no longer keep it on topic and it was getting derailed and personal..