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As it stands now, the Senate will end up at 52-48, 51-49, or 50-50, depending on how those 2 Senate runoff races turn out in Georgia. The House is at 222 - 212 in favor of the democrats, with one race still outstanding - NY District 22 is under a court ordered recount. Either way that goes, the House and Senate majorities are somewhat slim, which means the leadership for both Parties will have problems forming any consensus to pass anything, especially since Trump will not be the force he once was as the president. Yeah, I know the election has yet to be finalized, but barring some kind of last minute surprise of epic proportions, the fat lady is getting ready to sing.

Assuming Biden is in fact going to be our next president, he's going to have to deal with a split Congress where the democrats have the House and the GOP have the Senate, albeit in both cases by small majorities, and that is where the rub comes in. The democrats have a split within their own party between the Far Left that basically wants a Swedish style social democracy and the establishment moderates that wants to get re-elected and stay in power. In last month's election the House dems lost 12 or more seats, and they've got to be concerned about losing their House majority in 2022.

Ditto in the Senate where the GOP also has a more moderate establishment that wants to keep it's hold onto the Senate and the fiscally conservatives who never liked Trump's big spending ways and won't support Biden's efforts to do the same. All of which leads up to gridlock in both chambers of Congress. Nobody will be willing to give anything to the other side for fear of being primaried.

Which is sort of a good thing but also a bad thing. Good because the Far Left is NOT going to get all those grandiose Green New Deal programs and policies, amnesty, big bailouts, etc. Bad because this country has some major problems looming and nothing is likely to get done to fix any of them. There seems to be a small cadre of politicians from both parties and from both the House and the Senate that are trying to develop compromises, but the leadership in both parties so far is not willing to sign up for anything for fear of losing their respective majorities.

So, we have an interesting couple of years ahead of us, with all sorts of political posturing and shifting proposals by each side against the other, with us caught in the middle. Sooner or later, somebody is going to startup a 3rd party (hopefully) that will support common sense compromises and cooperation. I think we definitely need that right now. But there could also be a splintering faction from the democrats of the Far Left who want what they want. It should be obvious to them by now that the Democratic Party isn't going to give them the policies they want cuz they ain't politically wise. And also possibly a splintering group from the GOP that is for a balanced budget, lower taxes, and spending control. A revitalized Tea Party if you will.

There is an awful lot of discontent and distrust in both parties and the gov't in general and nobody is blameless for that, least of all the media, Hollywood, and academia. Things may eventually get better, but I suspect they'll get a lot worse before then.
 

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As it stands now, the Senate will end up at 52-48, 51-49, or 50-50, depending on how those 2 Senate runoff races turn out in Georgia. The House is at 222 - 212 in favor of the democrats, with one race still outstanding - NY District 22 is under a court ordered recount. Either way that goes, the House and Senate majorities are somewhat slim, which means the leadership for both Parties will have problems forming any consensus to pass anything, especially since Trump will not be the force he once was as the president. Yeah, I know the election has yet to be finalized, but barring some kind of last minute surprise of epic proportions, the fat lady is getting ready to sing.

Assuming Biden is in fact going to be our next president, he's going to have to deal with a split Congress where the democrats have the House and the GOP have the Senate, albeit in both cases by small majorities, and that is where the rub comes in. The democrats have a split within their own party between the Far Left that basically wants a Swedish style social democracy and the establishment moderates that wants to get re-elected and stay in power. In last month's election the House dems lost 12 or more seats, and they've got to be concerned about losing their House majority in 2022.

Ditto in the Senate where the GOP also has a more moderate establishment that wants to keep it's hold onto the Senate and the fiscally conservatives who never liked Trump's big spending ways and won't support Biden's efforts to do the same. All of which leads up to gridlock in both chambers of Congress. Nobody will be willing to give anything to the other side for fear of being primaried.

Which is sort of a good thing but also a bad thing. Good because the Far Left is NOT going to get all those grandiose Green New Deal programs and policies, amnesty, big bailouts, etc. Bad because this country has some major problems looming and nothing is likely to get done to fix any of them. There seems to be a small cadre of politicians from both parties and from both the House and the Senate that are trying to develop compromises, but the leadership in both parties so far is not willing to sign up for anything for fear of losing their respective majorities.

So, we have an interesting couple of years ahead of us, with all sorts of political posturing and shifting proposals by each side against the other, with us caught in the middle. Sooner or later, somebody is going to startup a 3rd party (hopefully) that will support common sense compromises and cooperation. I think we definitely need that right now. But there could also be a splintering faction from the democrats of the Far Left who want what they want. It should be obvious to them by now that the Democratic Party isn't going to give them the policies they want cuz they ain't politically wise. And also possibly a splintering group from the GOP that is for a balanced budget, lower taxes, and spending control. A revitalized Tea Party if you will.

There is an awful lot of discontent and distrust in both parties and the gov't in general and nobody is blameless for that, least of all the media, Hollywood, and academia. Things may eventually get better, but I suspect they'll get a lot worse before then.


The WH lost now through the hapless incompetence of the GOP,
The Senate just barely narrowly held by the hapless GOP and
The House lost in 2018 through a hapless GOP.

The only good to come out of Washington in years is the now 6-3 Supreme Court, the result of one man not at all a part of Washington.
 

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As it stands now, the Senate will end up at 52-48, 51-49, or 50-50, depending on how those 2 Senate runoff races turn out in Georgia. The House is at 222 - 212 in favor of the democrats, with one race still outstanding - NY District 22 is under a court ordered recount. Either way that goes, the House and Senate majorities are somewhat slim, which means the leadership for both Parties will have problems forming any consensus to pass anything, especially since Trump will not be the force he once was as the president. Yeah, I know the election has yet to be finalized, but barring some kind of last minute surprise of epic proportions, the fat lady is getting ready to sing.

Assuming Biden is in fact going to be our next president, he's going to have to deal with a split Congress where the democrats have the House and the GOP have the Senate, albeit in both cases by small majorities, and that is where the rub comes in. The democrats have a split within their own party between the Far Left that basically wants a Swedish style social democracy and the establishment moderates that wants to get re-elected and stay in power. In last month's election the House dems lost 12 or more seats, and they've got to be concerned about losing their House majority in 2022.

Ditto in the Senate where the GOP also has a more moderate establishment that wants to keep it's hold onto the Senate and the fiscally conservatives who never liked Trump's big spending ways and won't support Biden's efforts to do the same. All of which leads up to gridlock in both chambers of Congress. Nobody will be willing to give anything to the other side for fear of being primaried.

Which is sort of a good thing but also a bad thing. Good because the Far Left is NOT going to get all those grandiose Green New Deal programs and policies, amnesty, big bailouts, etc. Bad because this country has some major problems looming and nothing is likely to get done to fix any of them. There seems to be a small cadre of politicians from both parties and from both the House and the Senate that are trying to develop compromises, but the leadership in both parties so far is not willing to sign up for anything for fear of losing their respective majorities.

So, we have an interesting couple of years ahead of us, with all sorts of political posturing and shifting proposals by each side against the other, with us caught in the middle. Sooner or later, somebody is going to startup a 3rd party (hopefully) that will support common sense compromises and cooperation. I think we definitely need that right now. But there could also be a splintering faction from the democrats of the Far Left who want what they want. It should be obvious to them by now that the Democratic Party isn't going to give them the policies they want cuz they ain't politically wise. And also possibly a splintering group from the GOP that is for a balanced budget, lower taxes, and spending control. A revitalized Tea Party if you will.

There is an awful lot of discontent and distrust in both parties and the gov't in general and nobody is blameless for that, least of all the media, Hollywood, and academia. Things may eventually get better, but I suspect they'll get a lot worse before then.
Excellent perception of the current and foreseeable future.
Though I need to learn more, I like the concept of a "revitalized Tea Party", and would gladly entertain any further opinions or links related to such.
 

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under a court ordered recount. Either way that goes,
Court ordered recounts always go Democrat, as long as the recounts are performed by Democrat government workers under the orders of a Democrat court. I'm not entirely sure what the purpose of voting is in the first place, when the Democrats seize our guns, money, and valuables and make all the choices of what's best for us in their eyes.
 

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I predict investigations into McConnell and Graham's reelections that could expose their fraud wins.
I predict the fascist libs will abuse their office on all political enemies that stand up to them............
Well, then it will come down to evidence, won't it?
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As it stands now, the Senate will end up at 52-48, 51-49, or 50-50, depending on how those 2 Senate runoff races turn out in Georgia. The House is at 222 - 212 in favor of the democrats, with one race still outstanding - NY District 22 is under a court ordered recount. Either way that goes, the House and Senate majorities are somewhat slim, which means the leadership for both Parties will have problems forming any consensus to pass anything, especially since Trump will not be the force he once was as the president. Yeah, I know the election has yet to be finalized, but barring some kind of last minute surprise of epic proportions, the fat lady is getting ready to sing.

Assuming Biden is in fact going to be our next president, he's going to have to deal with a split Congress where the democrats have the House and the GOP have the Senate, albeit in both cases by small majorities, and that is where the rub comes in. The democrats have a split within their own party between the Far Left that basically wants a Swedish style social democracy and the establishment moderates that wants to get re-elected and stay in power. In last month's election the House dems lost 12 or more seats, and they've got to be concerned about losing their House majority in 2022.

Ditto in the Senate where the GOP also has a more moderate establishment that wants to keep it's hold onto the Senate and the fiscally conservatives who never liked Trump's big spending ways and won't support Biden's efforts to do the same. All of which leads up to gridlock in both chambers of Congress. Nobody will be willing to give anything to the other side for fear of being primaried.

Which is sort of a good thing but also a bad thing. Good because the Far Left is NOT going to get all those grandiose Green New Deal programs and policies, amnesty, big bailouts, etc. Bad because this country has some major problems looming and nothing is likely to get done to fix any of them. There seems to be a small cadre of politicians from both parties and from both the House and the Senate that are trying to develop compromises, but the leadership in both parties so far is not willing to sign up for anything for fear of losing their respective majorities.

So, we have an interesting couple of years ahead of us, with all sorts of political posturing and shifting proposals by each side against the other, with us caught in the middle. Sooner or later, somebody is going to startup a 3rd party (hopefully) that will support common sense compromises and cooperation. I think we definitely need that right now. But there could also be a splintering faction from the democrats of the Far Left who want what they want. It should be obvious to them by now that the Democratic Party isn't going to give them the policies they want cuz they ain't politically wise. And also possibly a splintering group from the GOP that is for a balanced budget, lower taxes, and spending control. A revitalized Tea Party if you will.

There is an awful lot of discontent and distrust in both parties and the gov't in general and nobody is blameless for that, least of all the media, Hollywood, and academia. Things may eventually get better, but I suspect they'll get a lot worse before then.


The WH lost now through the hapless incompetence of the GOP,
The Senate just barely narrowly held by the hapless GOP and
The House lost in 2018 through a hapless GOP.

The only good to come out of Washington in years is the now 6-3 Supreme Court, the result of one man not at all a part of Washington.

Hapless incompetance? It ain't like they had the House and a filibuster-proof Senate. The press, Hollywood, and academia were all against them, and frankly they had some internal issues between Trump's big spending and the fiscal conservatives who don't like more debt. What did you think they could've accomplished? McCain votes against ending the ACA, and that's everybody else's fault? So many times a federal judge rules against Trump and the GOP, blocking their policies, true? But the GOP is haplessly incompetent? The democrats have been lying like hell for 4 years (and longer) and may have unduly influenced the election results, but the GOP is at fault?
 

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As it stands now, the Senate will end up at 52-48, 51-49, or 50-50, depending on how those 2 Senate runoff races turn out in Georgia. The House is at 222 - 212 in favor of the democrats, with one race still outstanding - NY District 22 is under a court ordered recount. Either way that goes, the House and Senate majorities are somewhat slim, which means the leadership for both Parties will have problems forming any consensus to pass anything, especially since Trump will not be the force he once was as the president. Yeah, I know the election has yet to be finalized, but barring some kind of last minute surprise of epic proportions, the fat lady is getting ready to sing.

Assuming Biden is in fact going to be our next president, he's going to have to deal with a split Congress where the democrats have the House and the GOP have the Senate, albeit in both cases by small majorities, and that is where the rub comes in. The democrats have a split within their own party between the Far Left that basically wants a Swedish style social democracy and the establishment moderates that wants to get re-elected and stay in power. In last month's election the House dems lost 12 or more seats, and they've got to be concerned about losing their House majority in 2022.

Ditto in the Senate where the GOP also has a more moderate establishment that wants to keep it's hold onto the Senate and the fiscally conservatives who never liked Trump's big spending ways and won't support Biden's efforts to do the same. All of which leads up to gridlock in both chambers of Congress. Nobody will be willing to give anything to the other side for fear of being primaried.

Which is sort of a good thing but also a bad thing. Good because the Far Left is NOT going to get all those grandiose Green New Deal programs and policies, amnesty, big bailouts, etc. Bad because this country has some major problems looming and nothing is likely to get done to fix any of them. There seems to be a small cadre of politicians from both parties and from both the House and the Senate that are trying to develop compromises, but the leadership in both parties so far is not willing to sign up for anything for fear of losing their respective majorities.

So, we have an interesting couple of years ahead of us, with all sorts of political posturing and shifting proposals by each side against the other, with us caught in the middle. Sooner or later, somebody is going to startup a 3rd party (hopefully) that will support common sense compromises and cooperation. I think we definitely need that right now. But there could also be a splintering faction from the democrats of the Far Left who want what they want. It should be obvious to them by now that the Democratic Party isn't going to give them the policies they want cuz they ain't politically wise. And also possibly a splintering group from the GOP that is for a balanced budget, lower taxes, and spending control. A revitalized Tea Party if you will.

There is an awful lot of discontent and distrust in both parties and the gov't in general and nobody is blameless for that, least of all the media, Hollywood, and academia. Things may eventually get better, but I suspect they'll get a lot worse before then.

Parties ALWAYS have internal wings at odds with each other. Due to the Rump Effect, the rift in the Republican Party is YUGE, far more that whatever there is on the Dem side. The latter is going to be far more unified or at least coordinated, than the former.
 

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