Should The States Leave The Union

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 46.4%
  • No

    Votes: 15 53.6%

  • Total voters
    28

The Original Tree

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If this fraudulent election is not overturned, the states should leave The Union. They could declare themselves Independent Republics, and declare that all their tax dollars stay within their Independent Republics, then recall all their Senators and House Reps back to the states.

They could then afterwards form a coalition or pact whereby these Independent Republics cooperate with each other in Trade and National Defense by treaty.

They could ensure that "We The People" cannot be ruled by mandate without our consent in the New Republic. We could still be associated with The United States, but not subject to tyrannical rule and separate from The US because we currently are not being served by a Bureaucratic system of people whom we did not vote for and therefore we have taxation without representation.

The Treaty could ensure Secure Voting through National Voter Registry, Voter ID, and only allow same day voting and same day verifiable absentee balloting. It could re-title state supreme courts and place all municipalities counties etc. under it's jurisdiction etc. and all of this could easily be done in single day in a coordinated way.

They could have some sort of coalition nationally for purposes of coordinating the pact's cooperation with each other and appoint representatives and of course a President, and of course the first president would be The Legal and Legitimate President of The United States, Donald J. Trump who would resign as POTUS and accept the position of Prime Minister of The Constitutional Republic of America.

Free America could become a reality if The States follow The Republic of Texas.

 
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If this fraud is not overturned, the states should leave The Union. They could declare themselves Independent Republics, and declare that all their tax dollars stay within their Independent Republics, then recall all their Senators and House Reps back to the states.

They could then afterwards form a coalition or pact whereby these Independent Republics cooperate with each other in Trade and National Defense by treaty.
The Treaty could ensure Secure Voting through National Voter Registry, Voter ID, and only allow same day voting and same day verifiable absentee balloting.

They could have some sort of coalition nationally for purposes of coordinating the pact's cooperation with each other and appoint representatives and of course a President, and of course the first president would be The Legal and Legitimate President of The United States, Donald J. Trump who would resign as POTUS and accept the position of Prime Minister of The Constitutional Republic of America.
There is a better alternative. Return state rights like they were at one time. So instead of the President telling the states what their medical coverage should be and how to educate their children, etc., the states will do it themselves the way the Constitution was originally designed. That way both left wing and right wing states can run their own affairs the way they see fit rather than having half the nation want to secede every Presidential election.

But Leftism is not a philosophy of diversification and toleration, rather, it is a philosophy that all objects will be forced to fit in the square hole even if it requires a hammer. It is a philosophy of world conquest with no deviation or dissent.
 
We should remsin in the union and fight the dirty bastards on the left no matter whst the supreme court decides
Well, regardless of how you feel about that, I think the states should make their intentions known that they want to leave The Union. The Legislatures might have to do this to get their tyrannical executive branches under control in some of these states, like Ohio for instance where Governor DeWine is violating his oath of office, and is vetoing every bill that seeks to restrict his power or the power of the tyrannical health department there.
 
Sure, go ahead and get to work on that.
Thanks. Try to run shitholes like Chicago, New York and California without Federal Tax Dollars while illegals pour in to your sanctuary shitties, and you try to pay for their every need from cradle to grave while robbing your own citizens and holding fraudulent elections to continue your thievery. All your businesses will flee to FREE AMERICA while the rest of your DemNazis states will look like they were firebombed.
 
Sure, go ahead and get to work on that.
Thanks. Try to run shitholes like Chicago, New York and California without Federal Tax Dollars while illegals pour in to your sanctuary shitties, and you try to pay for their every need from cradle to grave while robbing your own citizens and holding fraudulent elections to continue your thievery. All your businesses will flee to FREE AMERICA while the rest of your DemNazis states will look like they were firebombed.
Okay, well, let me know when you get started on this.
 
We should remsin in the union and fight the dirty bastards on the left no matter whst the supreme court decides
Well, regardless of how you feel about that, I think the states should make their intentions known that they want to leave The Union. The Legislatures might have to do this to get their tyrannical executive branches under control in some of these states, like Ohio for instance where Governor DeWine is violating his oath of office, and is vetoing every bill that seeks to restrict his power or the power of the tyrannical health department there.
The Left will see to it that states will not secede and that they will not regain their original power.

Again, their movement is world wide and trending towards world wide centralized control, so they will do whatever it takes to achieve this end.

But in their defense, they think they are doing "good". They think that this will end wars, stop pollution world wide, and save the earth from carbon dioxide etc.. I realize they are all insane, but know that they think they are doing "good" and will even lie about it knowing it is for a good cause.

C. S. Lewis says it much better than I.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
 
Sure, go ahead and get to work on that.
Thanks. Try to run shitholes like Chicago, New York and California without Federal Tax Dollars while illegals pour in to your sanctuary shitties, and you try to pay for their every need from cradle to grave while robbing your own citizens and holding fraudulent elections to continue your thievery. All your businesses will flee to FREE AMERICA while the rest of your DemNazis states will look like they were firebombed.
Okay, well, let me know when you get started on this.
Today of course. Texas is already submitting a bill for secession. Other states should join them.
 
If this fraudulent election is not overturned, the states should leave The Union. They could declare themselves Independent Republics, and declare that all their tax dollars stay within their Independent Republics, then recall all their Senators and House Reps back to the states.

They could then afterwards form a coalition or pact whereby these Independent Republics cooperate with each other in Trade and National Defense by treaty.

They could ensure that "We The People" cannot be ruled by mandate without our consent in the New Republic. We could still be associated with The United States, but not subject to tyrannical rule and separate from The US because we currently are not being served by a Bureaucratic system of people whom we did not vote for and therefore we have taxation without representation.

The Treaty could ensure Secure Voting through National Voter Registry, Voter ID, and only allow same day voting and same day verifiable absentee balloting. It could re-title state supreme courts and place all municipalities counties etc. under it's jurisdiction etc. and all of this could easily be done in single day in a coordinated way.

They could have some sort of coalition nationally for purposes of coordinating the pact's cooperation with each other and appoint representatives and of course a President, and of course the first president would be The Legal and Legitimate President of The United States, Donald J. Trump who would resign as POTUS and accept the position of Prime Minister of The Constitutional Republic of America.

Maybe if there was sizable fraud. There was none in 2020.
 
Sure, go ahead and get to work on that.
Thanks. Try to run shitholes like Chicago, New York and California without Federal Tax Dollars while illegals pour in to your sanctuary shitties, and you try to pay for their every need from cradle to grave while robbing your own citizens and holding fraudulent elections to continue your thievery. All your businesses will flee to FREE AMERICA while the rest of your DemNazis states will look like they were firebombed.
Okay, well, let me know when you get started on this.
Today of course. Texas is already submitting a bill for secession. Other states should join them.
Which will get struck down

Next.
 
Thanks. Try to run shitholes like Chicago, New York and California without Federal Tax Dollars while illegals pour in to your sanctuary shitties, and you try to pay for their every need from cradle to grave while robbing your own citizens and holding fraudulent elections to continue your thievery.

You know that red states get more money from washington than they contribute to washington.

Cut them loose, and they'll lose.
 
If this fraud is not overturned, the states should leave The Union. They could declare themselves Independent Republics, and declare that all their tax dollars stay within their Independent Republics, then recall all their Senators and House Reps back to the states.

They could then afterwards form a coalition or pact whereby these Independent Republics cooperate with each other in Trade and National Defense by treaty.
The Treaty could ensure Secure Voting through National Voter Registry, Voter ID, and only allow same day voting and same day verifiable absentee balloting.

They could have some sort of coalition nationally for purposes of coordinating the pact's cooperation with each other and appoint representatives and of course a President, and of course the first president would be The Legal and Legitimate President of The United States, Donald J. Trump who would resign as POTUS and accept the position of Prime Minister of The Constitutional Republic of America.
There is a better alternative. Return state rights like they were at one time. So instead of the President telling the states what their medical coverage should be and how to educate their children, etc., the states will do it themselves the way the Constitution was originally designed. That way both left wing and right wing states can run their own affairs the way they see fit rather than having half the nation want to secede every Presidential election.

But Leftism is not a philosophy of diversification and toleration, rather, it is a philosophy that all objects will be forced to fit in the square hole even if it requires a hammer. It is a philosophy of world conquest with no deviation or dissent.
The left is much more tolerant than the right by the definition if liberalism.
 
If this fraud is not overturned, the states should leave The Union. They could declare themselves Independent Republics, and declare that all their tax dollars stay within their Independent Republics, then recall all their Senators and House Reps back to the states.

They could then afterwards form a coalition or pact whereby these Independent Republics cooperate with each other in Trade and National Defense by treaty.
The Treaty could ensure Secure Voting through National Voter Registry, Voter ID, and only allow same day voting and same day verifiable absentee balloting.

They could have some sort of coalition nationally for purposes of coordinating the pact's cooperation with each other and appoint representatives and of course a President, and of course the first president would be The Legal and Legitimate President of The United States, Donald J. Trump who would resign as POTUS and accept the position of Prime Minister of The Constitutional Republic of America.
There is a better alternative. Return state rights like they were at one time. So instead of the President telling the states what their medical coverage should be and how to educate their children, etc., the states will do it themselves the way the Constitution was originally designed. That way both left wing and right wing states can run their own affairs the way they see fit rather than having half the nation want to secede every Presidential election.

But Leftism is not a philosophy of diversification and toleration, rather, it is a philosophy that all objects will be forced to fit in the square hole even if it requires a hammer. It is a philosophy of world conquest with no deviation or dissent.
The left is much more tolerant than the right by the definition if liberalism.
Left and right get thrown around to the point of meaningless and bastardization.

For example, the Nazi regime is described as "right" by academics. Why? They are self declared National Socialists and employed socialism on many levels, so why describe them are right? I'll tell you why, because they champion Leftism. Imagine how their movement would then get trashed by correctly assessing that both communism and Nazism were Left wing.

Pure propaganda.
 
If this fraudulent election is not overturned, the states should leave The Union.
By all objective assessment, the U.S. had a safe and secure election. That has been confirmed by Republican as well as Democratic governors, secretaries of state, attorneys general, and other election officials, as well as by Republican state and federal judges, Trump-appointees included.

Which state(s) are the disgruntled Trump Cult targetting? Are their threats to conscientious, honest public office holders and their families an indicator of where the Trump Cult's treason will occur?

Mindless sniveling by the Trump Cult is a constant, but if their contempt for America's democratic process leads to insurrection, they are going to get their candy arses spanked very, very hard.
 
If this fraudulent election is not overturned, the states should leave The Union.
By all objective assessment, the U.S. had a safe and secure election. That has been confirmed by Republican as well as Democratic governors, secretaries of state, attorneys general, and other election officials, as well as Republican state and federal judges, Trump-appointees included.

Which state(s) are the disgruntled Trump Cult targetting? Are their threats to conscientious, honest public office holders and their families an indicator of where the Trump Cult's treason will occur?

Mindless sniveling by the Trump Cult is a constant, but if their contempt for America's democratic process leads to insurrection, they are going to get their candy arses spanked very, very hard.
Cheating goes on during all election cycles. The only question becomes, to what exent.

So when voting is stopped in Georgia for a "water leak" that never happened, and shut down as others later come in to count votes in secret who were caught on camera, the only question becomes, how did it swing the election.

Obviously, we have no way of ever knowing, hence those saying you can't prove it swung an election.
 

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