sea level rise

[Old Rocks]

And it just keeps getting more interesting for our children and grandchildren.

Get Ready for 7 Foot Sea Level Rise by 2100 + Antarctic Glacier Past Tipping Point : TreeHugger

quick update on the state of sea level rise projections. As you can tell from the title, it's not so good. Basically, by 2100 coastal areas should being prepared for about 7 feet (2.13 meters), that's what scientists from Western Carolina and Duke universities are saying. And, according to new research done at the universities of Oxford and Cambridge, the Pine Island Glacier in Antarctica has reached a melting tipping point, which alone will eventually contribute about 9 inches (24 centimeters) of water to the world's oceans.

Glacier Ground Line Steadily Retreating
The word on the Pine Island Glacier comes via work published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society A which shows how changes in the 'grounding line' of an ice sheet--where it floats free from its base of rock or sediment--can lead to its disintegration.

Oxford University's Dr. Richard Katz says that the model his team developed shows "how instability in the grounding line, caused by gradual climatic changes, has the potential to reach a tipping point where disintegration of the ice sheet could occur."

Pine Island Glacier Melting Accelerating
The leap to that tipping point being reached comes in New Scientist's write up of the research. They explain that the grounding line for the PIG passed over a crucial crest on the Antarctic sea bed back in 1996, readying the glacier for accelerated shrinking. In fact PIG is four times faster than ten years ago.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

And it just keeps getting more interesting for our children and grandchildren.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/envir...k-glacier-info-from-student-dissertation.html

The FRAUD certianly does get more interesting. And laughable.

 

[sherp]

And it just keeps getting more interesting for our children and grandchildren.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/envir...k-glacier-info-from-student-dissertation.html

The FRAUD certianly does get more interesting. And laughable.

Yes it does. As neither the AG Frauders or us will be around in 2100 to verity these predictions, I have no doubt that the future generations will manage on their own. And probably laughing their heads off at this nonsense.

 

[Oddball]

When an old Jewish guy in Miami starts building a big-assed boat to put all the animals into, gimmie a call.

 

[eagleseven]

It's been widely acknowledged that the IPCC estimates from 2007 are too conservative when it comes to sea level rise. Unofficial updates to that research, publicized in March 2009 at the Copenhagen Climate Congress, said at minimum the world is likely to see half a meter, with more than a meter well within the realm of possibility. A new piece in Yale Environment 360 goes beyond that.

It would appear that the threat of global flooding from the faked IPCC glacier report is greater than we had anticipated.

 

[Charles Stucker]

It would appear that the threat of global flooding from the faked IPCC glacier report is greater than we had anticipated.

You just don't understand the threat is from DRY water.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Are these the same guys who predicted an ice age in the 70s or the guys who said Florida was going to be underwater by 2000?

 

[eagleseven]

Are these the same guys who predicted an ice age in the 70s or the guys who said Florida was going to be underwater by 2000?

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[del]

And it just keeps getting more interesting for our children and grandchildren.

Get Ready for 7 Foot Sea Level Rise by 2100 + Antarctic Glacier Past Tipping Point : TreeHugger

quick update on the state of sea level rise projections. As you can tell from the title, it's not so good. Basically, by 2100 coastal areas should being prepared for about 7 feet (2.13 meters), that's what scientists from Western Carolina and Duke universities are saying. And, according to new research done at the universities of Oxford and Cambridge, the Pine Island Glacier in Antarctica has reached a melting tipping point, which alone will eventually contribute about 9 inches (24 centimeters) of water to the world's oceans.

Glacier Ground Line Steadily Retreating
The word on the Pine Island Glacier comes via work published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society A which shows how changes in the 'grounding line' of an ice sheet--where it floats free from its base of rock or sediment--can lead to its disintegration.

Oxford University's Dr. Richard Katz says that the model his team developed shows "how instability in the grounding line, caused by gradual climatic changes, has the potential to reach a tipping point where disintegration of the ice sheet could occur."

Pine Island Glacier Melting Accelerating
The leap to that tipping point being reached comes in New Scientist's write up of the research. They explain that the grounding line for the PIG passed over a crucial crest on the Antarctic sea bed back in 1996, readying the glacier for accelerated shrinking. In fact PIG is four times faster than ten years ago.

we'll just bore down a klick or so into the earth's crust and let the billion degree temperatures evaporate the water.

problem solved!

thanks al gore! you're the bestest!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's been widely acknowledged that the IPCC estimates from 2007 are too conservative when it comes to sea level rise. Unofficial updates to that research, publicized in March 2009 at the Copenhagen Climate Congress, said at minimum the world is likely to see half a meter, with more than a meter well within the realm of possibility. A new piece in Yale Environment 360 goes beyond that.

It would appear that the threat of global flooding from the faked IPCC glacier report is greater than we had anticipated.

That's the first thing I thought of when I read the OP.

 

[Liability]

And it just keeps getting more interesting for our children and grandchildren.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/envir...k-glacier-info-from-student-dissertation.html

The FRAUD certianly does get more interesting. And laughable.

Come on. It was a really good dissertation. Original sourcing from actual hikers!

Hell. It just doesn't GET any more convincing.

Chinese data? IPCC won't use that shit because, they say, it isn't peer reviewed? But non-peer-reviewed masters' dissertation using anecdotal evidence? THAT'S peachy!

If I wanted to craft a parody to lampoon the IPCC, it's hard to imagine anything more outrageous than the stuff they actually DO!

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, realizing that you lumpenproles would not recognize a real science article if it bit, for others, here is one of the sources for that article.
Proceedings of the Royal Society A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences


Proceedings A has an illustrious history of publishing pioneering and influential research articles across the entire range of the physical and mathematical sciences. These have included Maxwell's electromagnetic theory, the Braggs' first account of X-ray crystallography, Dirac's relativistic theory of the electron, and Watson and Crick's detailed description of the structure of DNA. Find out more about Proceedings A.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well, realizing that you lumpenproles would not recognize a real science article if it bit, for others, here is one of the sources for that article.
Proceedings of the Royal Society A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences


Proceedings A has an illustrious history of publishing pioneering and influential research articles across the entire range of the physical and mathematical sciences. These have included Maxwell's electromagnetic theory, the Braggs' first account of X-ray crystallography, Dirac's relativistic theory of the electron, and Watson and Crick's detailed description of the structure of DNA. Find out more about Proceedings A.

Does the article discuss tree rings?

 

[Old Rocks]

And of course, you brilliant fellows know so much more than the people at Oxford.

Search for ice sheet ?tipping point? - University of Oxford

13 Jan 10
Airborne view of the Pine Island glacier, Antarctica. Photo: NASA/Jane PetersonA new study examines how ice sheets, such as the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, could become unstable as the world warms.

The team from Oxford University and Cambridge University developed a model to explore how changes in the ‘grounding line’ – where an ice sheet floats free from its base of rock or sediment – could lead to the disintegration of ice sheets and result in a significant rise in global sea level.

A report of their research is published in Proceedings of the Royal Society A.

‘The volume of ice locked up in the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is equivalent to a sea level rise of around 3.3 metres,’ said Dr Richard Katz of Oxford University’s Department of Earth Sciences, an author of the report. ‘Our model shows how instability in the grounding line, caused by gradual climatic changes, has the potential to reach a ‘tipping point’ where disintegration of the ice sheet could occur.’

The volume of ice locked up in the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is equivalent to a sea level rise of around 3.3 metres.

Dr Richard Katz At the moment the model – that uniquely takes into account the three dimensional shape of ice sheets – is still fairly simple, but the researchers hope to eventually include more detail on how ice sheets interact with their base slopes and show the behaviour of individual ice streams.

When the team applied their theoretical and mathematical model to the West Antarctic Ice Sheet they found that, contrary to earlier assessments, a scenario which would see instability grow as the grounding line recedes was likely. In the case of the Pine Island Glacier it may already be occurring

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, realizing that you lumpenproles would not recognize a real science article if it bit, for others, here is one of the sources for that article.
Proceedings of the Royal Society A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences


Proceedings A has an illustrious history of publishing pioneering and influential research articles across the entire range of the physical and mathematical sciences. These have included Maxwell's electromagnetic theory, the Braggs' first account of X-ray crystallography, Dirac's relativistic theory of the electron, and Watson and Crick's detailed description of the structure of DNA. Find out more about Proceedings A.

Does the article discuss tree rings?

Had nothing to do with your head.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And of course, you brilliant fellows know so much more than the people at Oxford.

Search for ice sheet ?tipping point? - University of Oxford

13 Jan 10
Airborne view of the Pine Island glacier, Antarctica. Photo: NASA/Jane PetersonA new study examines how ice sheets, such as the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, could become unstable as the world warms.

The team from Oxford University and Cambridge University developed a model to explore how changes in the ‘grounding line’ – where an ice sheet floats free from its base of rock or sediment – could lead to the disintegration of ice sheets and result in a significant rise in global sea level.

A report of their research is published in Proceedings of the Royal Society A.

‘The volume of ice locked up in the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is equivalent to a sea level rise of around 3.3 metres,’ said Dr Richard Katz of Oxford University’s Department of Earth Sciences, an author of the report. ‘Our model shows how instability in the grounding line, caused by gradual climatic changes, has the potential to reach a ‘tipping point’ where disintegration of the ice sheet could occur.’

The volume of ice locked up in the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is equivalent to a sea level rise of around 3.3 metres.

Dr Richard Katz At the moment the model – that uniquely takes into account the three dimensional shape of ice sheets – is still fairly simple, but the researchers hope to eventually include more detail on how ice sheets interact with their base slopes and show the behaviour of individual ice streams.

When the team applied their theoretical and mathematical model to the West Antarctic Ice Sheet they found that, contrary to earlier assessments, a scenario which would see instability grow as the grounding line recedes was likely. In the case of the Pine Island Glacier it may already be occurring

Let's play M.I.T.'s newest game

WHEEL OF CLIMATE CHANGE

 

[eagleseven]

Well, realizing that you lumpenproles would not recognize a real science article if it bit, for others, here is one of the sources for that article.
Proceedings of the Royal Society A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences


Proceedings A has an illustrious history of publishing pioneering and influential research articles across the entire range of the physical and mathematical sciences. These have included Maxwell's electromagnetic theory, the Braggs' first account of X-ray crystallography, Dirac's relativistic theory of the electron, and Watson and Crick's detailed description of the structure of DNA. Find out more about Proceedings A.

Their model only applies IF the Earth is warming. They weren't studying Global Warming, only theorizing potential effects of Global Warming. Oxford's study was fine...you're the one who's making the logical fallacy here (confusing cause and effect).

A red herring brought to you by treehugger.com

 

[Old Rocks]

The article in Treehugger was based on an article from the Royal Societies Publication.

Is that too difficult of a concept for you?

 

[eagleseven]

The article in Treehugger was based on an article from the Royal Societies Publication.

Logical Fallacies: Appeal to Authority

An appeal to authority is an argument from the fact that a person judged to be an authority affirms a proposition to the claim that the proposition is true. Appeals to authority are always deductively fallacious; even a legitimate authority speaking on his area of expertise may affirm a falsehood, so no testimony of any authority is guaranteed to be true.

However, the informal fallacy occurs only when the authority cited either (a) is not an authority, or (b) is not an authority on the subject on which he is being cited. If someone either isn’t an authority at all, or isn’t an authority on the subject about which they’re speaking, then that undermines the value of their testimony.

The Oxford study assumes that Global Warming is happening. Treehugger is fallaciously using the study to argue that Global Warming is happening.