Scientist battle Arctic winter to measure melting ice cap

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CNN) -- It could be the ultimate test of human endurance: Three British explorers are risking their lives in subzero temperatures to measure the melting Arctic ice cap.

The team is on a three-month, 621-mile (1,000-kilometer) hike to their final destination at the North Pole. Along the way, taking precise measurements to determine exactly how fast the ice cap is disappearing.

"It's extremely difficult to live out here. It's very, very easy to get cold injuries in seconds," said Martin Hartley, team photographer and filmmaker, via satellite phone.

The team has been braving temperatures as low as minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit/Celsius spending their nights sleeping in tents and their days trudging across the shifting, barren polar expanse.

"The other day, we had to move the tent first thing in the morning because where we were camped, the sheet of ice was breaking up into dozens of pieces because of a tidal swell or wind in the ocean," Hartley said.

The unique expedition was prompted by this chilling prospect: The Arctic ice cap is melting at an unprecedented rate, which may lead to a dramatic shift in average global temperatures.

"In 2007, sea ice loss was the worst in recorded history," said oceanographer Kate Moran, professor of oceanography and ocean engineering at the University of Rhode Island.

The last time that scientists can say confidently that the Arctic was free of summertime ice was 125,000 years ago, according to the Web site of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

All that could vanish within our lifetime, warn climate scientists, who predict that the Arctic sea ice in the summer season could be gone between 2013 and 2040.

Battling the daily grind of the brutal Arctic terrain, explorers Pen Hadow, 46; Ann Daniels, 44; and Hartley, 40, are in the second week of their 100-day journey to the top of the world.

Team battles Arctic winter to measure melting ice caps - CNN.com
 
CNN) -- It could be the ultimate test of human endurance: Three British explorers are risking their lives in subzero temperatures to measure the melting Arctic ice cap.
The team is on a three-month, 621-mile (1,000-kilometer) hike to their final destination at the North Pole. Along the way, taking precise measurements to determine exactly how fast the ice cap is disappearing.

"It's extremely difficult to live out here. It's very, very easy to get cold injuries in seconds," said Martin Hartley, team photographer and filmmaker, via satellite phone.

The team has been braving temperatures as low as minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit/Celsius spending their nights sleeping in tents and their days trudging across the shifting, barren polar expanse.

"The other day, we had to move the tent first thing in the morning because where we were camped, the sheet of ice was breaking up into dozens of pieces because of a tidal swell or wind in the ocean," Hartley said.

The unique expedition was prompted by this chilling prospect: The Arctic ice cap is melting at an unprecedented rate, which may lead to a dramatic shift in average global temperatures.

"In 2007, sea ice loss was the worst in recorded history," said oceanographer Kate Moran, professor of oceanography and ocean engineering at the University of Rhode Island.

The last time that scientists can say confidently that the Arctic was free of summertime ice was 125,000 years ago, according to the Web site of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

All that could vanish within our lifetime, warn climate scientists, who predict that the Arctic sea ice in the summer season could be gone between 2013 and 2040.

Battling the daily grind of the brutal Arctic terrain, explorers Pen Hadow, 46; Ann Daniels, 44; and Hartley, 40, are in the second week of their 100-day journey to the top of the world.

Team battles Arctic winter to measure melting ice caps - CNN.com


LOL.

Battling -40 temps to check out if glaciers are melting.

Classic...
 
CNN) -- It could be the ultimate test of human endurance: Three British explorers are risking their lives in subzero temperatures to measure the melting Arctic ice cap.
The team is on a three-month, 621-mile (1,000-kilometer) hike to their final destination at the North Pole. Along the way, taking precise measurements to determine exactly how fast the ice cap is disappearing.

"It's extremely difficult to live out here. It's very, very easy to get cold injuries in seconds," said Martin Hartley, team photographer and filmmaker, via satellite phone.

The team has been braving temperatures as low as minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit/Celsius spending their nights sleeping in tents and their days trudging across the shifting, barren polar expanse.

"The other day, we had to move the tent first thing in the morning because where we were camped, the sheet of ice was breaking up into dozens of pieces because of a tidal swell or wind in the ocean," Hartley said.

The unique expedition was prompted by this chilling prospect: The Arctic ice cap is melting at an unprecedented rate, which may lead to a dramatic shift in average global temperatures.

"In 2007, sea ice loss was the worst in recorded history," said oceanographer Kate Moran, professor of oceanography and ocean engineering at the University of Rhode Island.

The last time that scientists can say confidently that the Arctic was free of summertime ice was 125,000 years ago, according to the Web site of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

All that could vanish within our lifetime, warn climate scientists, who predict that the Arctic sea ice in the summer season could be gone between 2013 and 2040.

Battling the daily grind of the brutal Arctic terrain, explorers Pen Hadow, 46; Ann Daniels, 44; and Hartley, 40, are in the second week of their 100-day journey to the top of the world.

Team battles Arctic winter to measure melting ice caps - CNN.com


LOL.

Battling -40 temps to check out if glaciers are melting.

Classic...

Last week I saw the news-graph of the falling percentages of those who believe in "Global Warming."

I'm looking forward to the graph of the confluence of Global Warming Believers, Democrats, and those who believe that Elvis is still alive.
 
CNN) -- It could be the ultimate test of human endurance: Three British explorers are risking their lives in subzero temperatures to measure the melting Arctic ice cap.
The team is on a three-month, 621-mile (1,000-kilometer) hike to their final destination at the North Pole. Along the way, taking precise measurements to determine exactly how fast the ice cap is disappearing.

"It's extremely difficult to live out here. It's very, very easy to get cold injuries in seconds," said Martin Hartley, team photographer and filmmaker, via satellite phone.

The team has been braving temperatures as low as minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit/Celsius spending their nights sleeping in tents and their days trudging across the shifting, barren polar expanse.

"The other day, we had to move the tent first thing in the morning because where we were camped, the sheet of ice was breaking up into dozens of pieces because of a tidal swell or wind in the ocean," Hartley said.

The unique expedition was prompted by this chilling prospect: The Arctic ice cap is melting at an unprecedented rate, which may lead to a dramatic shift in average global temperatures.

"In 2007, sea ice loss was the worst in recorded history," said oceanographer Kate Moran, professor of oceanography and ocean engineering at the University of Rhode Island.

The last time that scientists can say confidently that the Arctic was free of summertime ice was 125,000 years ago, according to the Web site of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

All that could vanish within our lifetime, warn climate scientists, who predict that the Arctic sea ice in the summer season could be gone between 2013 and 2040.

Battling the daily grind of the brutal Arctic terrain, explorers Pen Hadow, 46; Ann Daniels, 44; and Hartley, 40, are in the second week of their 100-day journey to the top of the world.

Team battles Arctic winter to measure melting ice caps - CNN.com


LOL.

Battling -40 temps to check out if glaciers are melting.

Classic...

Last week I saw the news-graph of the falling percentages of those who believe in "Global Warming."

I'm looking forward to the graph of the confluence of Global Warming Believers, Democrats, and those who believe that Elvis is still alive.

So you are scientifically illeliterate and quite proud of it. What else is new?
 
- 40 at night with no Sun.. above 32 F during the day when the Sun shines.. = melting glaciers..
 
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LOL.

Battling -40 temps to check out if glaciers are melting.

Classic...

Last week I saw the news-graph of the falling percentages of those who believe in "Global Warming."

I'm looking forward to the graph of the confluence of Global Warming Believers, Democrats, and those who believe that Elvis is still alive.

So you are scientifically illeliterate and quite proud of it. What else is new?


So you are a gullible goof who can't spell "illiterate"?

Here's an old saying that you should pay special attention to: Better to let people think you’re a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
 
- 40 at night with no Sun.. above 32 F during the day when the Sun shines.. = melting glaciers..

ANTARCTIC WEATHER
"A blinding, shrieking blizzard all day, with the temperature ranging from -60 to -70°F." - Shackleton (1909)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coldest Temp:
-129°F (-89°C) on July 21, 1983
Location: Vostok Station
Warmest Temp:
+59°F (+15°C) on Jan 5, 1974
Location: Vanda Station
Mean Temps:
Winter: -40 to -94°F (-40 to -70°C)
Summer: -5 to -31°F (-15 to -35°C)
Weather in Antarctica - Antarctic Connection

" Note that from 1935-1945, arctic temperatures were much higher than today, and dropped from that peak until about 1960. This is why all of the scare stories on the arctic including last year's much heralded "Arctic Climate Impact Assessment" (ACIA) start their temperature records in 1960 -- it makes the current situation look catastrophic. Yes, things have gotten warmer since 1960 ... but what the fearful scientists somehow forget to tell you is that temperatures were even warmer before that."
Reality in Arctic temperature trends
 
Last week I saw the news-graph of the falling percentages of those who believe in "Global Warming."

I'm looking forward to the graph of the confluence of Global Warming Believers, Democrats, and those who believe that Elvis is still alive.

So you are scientifically illeliterate and quite proud of it. What else is new?


So you are a gullible goof who can't spell "illiterate"?

Here's an old saying that you should pay special attention to: Better to let people think you’re a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

You have removed all doubt.
 
- 40 at night with no Sun.. above 32 F during the day when the Sun shines.. = melting glaciers..

ANTARCTIC WEATHER
"A blinding, shrieking blizzard all day, with the temperature ranging from -60 to -70°F." - Shackleton (1909)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coldest Temp:
-129°F (-89°C) on July 21, 1983
Location: Vostok Station
Warmest Temp:
+59°F (+15°C) on Jan 5, 1974
Location: Vanda Station
Mean Temps:
Winter: -40 to -94°F (-40 to -70°C)
Summer: -5 to -31°F (-15 to -35°C)
Weather in Antarctica - Antarctic Connection

" Note that from 1935-1945, arctic temperatures were much higher than today, and dropped from that peak until about 1960. This is why all of the scare stories on the arctic including last year's much heralded "Arctic Climate Impact Assessment" (ACIA) start their temperature records in 1960 -- it makes the current situation look catastrophic. Yes, things have gotten warmer since 1960 ... but what the fearful scientists somehow forget to tell you is that temperatures were even warmer before that."
Reality in Arctic temperature trends

That avatar is...

distracting.

But I do enjoy your posts - you kick some ass in here.
 
So you are scientifically illeliterate and quite proud of it. What else is new?


So you are a gullible goof who can't spell "illiterate"?

Here's an old saying that you should pay special attention to: Better to let people think you’re a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

You have removed all doubt.

I hope you have enough towels to get all that egg off your face.

BTW, you're in the running for the "sealybobo-boy-was-I-wrong" award.
 
- 40 at night with no Sun.. above 32 F during the day when the Sun shines.. = melting glaciers..

ANTARCTIC WEATHER
"A blinding, shrieking blizzard all day, with the temperature ranging from -60 to -70°F." - Shackleton (1909)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coldest Temp:
-129°F (-89°C) on July 21, 1983
Location: Vostok Station
Warmest Temp:
+59°F (+15°C) on Jan 5, 1974
Location: Vanda Station
Mean Temps:
Winter: -40 to -94°F (-40 to -70°C)
Summer: -5 to -31°F (-15 to -35°C)
Weather in Antarctica - Antarctic Connection

" Note that from 1935-1945, arctic temperatures were much higher than today, and dropped from that peak until about 1960. This is why all of the scare stories on the arctic including last year's much heralded "Arctic Climate Impact Assessment" (ACIA) start their temperature records in 1960 -- it makes the current situation look catastrophic. Yes, things have gotten warmer since 1960 ... but what the fearful scientists somehow forget to tell you is that temperatures were even warmer before that."
Reality in Arctic temperature trends

The article in the OP states they are going to the North Pole.
 
- 40 at night with no Sun.. above 32 F during the day when the Sun shines.. = melting glaciers..

ANTARCTIC WEATHER
"A blinding, shrieking blizzard all day, with the temperature ranging from -60 to -70°F." - Shackleton (1909)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coldest Temp:
-129°F (-89°C) on July 21, 1983
Location: Vostok Station
Warmest Temp:
+59°F (+15°C) on Jan 5, 1974
Location: Vanda Station
Mean Temps:
Winter: -40 to -94°F (-40 to -70°C)
Summer: -5 to -31°F (-15 to -35°C)
Weather in Antarctica - Antarctic Connection

" Note that from 1935-1945, arctic temperatures were much higher than today, and dropped from that peak until about 1960. This is why all of the scare stories on the arctic including last year's much heralded "Arctic Climate Impact Assessment" (ACIA) start their temperature records in 1960 -- it makes the current situation look catastrophic. Yes, things have gotten warmer since 1960 ... but what the fearful scientists somehow forget to tell you is that temperatures were even warmer before that."
Reality in Arctic temperature trends

nsf.gov - National Science Foundation (NSF) News - New Evidence From NSF-funded ANDRILL Demonstrates Climate Warming Affects Antarctic Ice Sheet Stability - US National Science Foundation (NSF)

March 18, 2009


For b-roll on Betacam SP of ANDRILL operating in Antarctica, contact Dena Headlee at (703) 292-7739 or [email protected].

See Other Recent IPY-related News

A five-nation scientific team has published new evidence that even a slight rise in atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide, one of the gases that drives global warming, affects the stability of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS). The massive WAIS covers the continent on the Pacific side of the Transantarctic Mountains. Any substantial melting of the ice sheet would cause a rise in global sea levels.

The research, which was published in the March 19 issue of the journal Nature, is based on investigations by a 56-member team of scientists conducted on a 1,280-meter (4,100-foot)-long sedimentary rock core taken from beneath the sea floor under Antarctica's Ross Ice Shelf during the first project of the ANDRILL (ANtarctic geological DRILLing) research program--the McMurdo Ice Shelf (MIS) Project.

The National Science Foundation (NSF), which manages the U.S. Antarctic Program (USAP), provided about $20 million in support of the ANDRILL program. The other ANDRILL national partners contributed an additional $10 million in science and logistics support.

"The sedimentary record from the ANDRILL project provides scientists with an important analogue that can be used to help predict how ice shelves and the massive WAIS will respond to future global warming over the next few centuries," said Ross Powell, a professor of geology at Northern Illinois University.

"The sedimentary record indicates that under global warming conditions that were similar to those projected to occur over the next century, protective ice shelves could shrink or even disappear and the WAIS would become vulnerable to melting," Powell said. "If the current warm period persists, the ice sheet could diminish substantially or even disappear over time. This would result in a potentially significant rise in sea levels."


nsf.gov - Antarctic Sciences (ANT) News - Climate-related Changes on the Antarctic Peninsula Being Driven from the Top and the Bottom of the Ecosystem - US National Science Foundation (NSF)

March 16, 2009


Scientists have long established that the Antarctic Peninsula is one of the most rapidly warming spots on Earth. Now, new research using detailed satellite data indicates that the changing climate is affecting not just the penguins at the apex of the food chain, but simultaneously the microscopic life that is the base of the ecosystem.


These are links from your posted links.
 
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Last week I saw the news-graph of the falling percentages of those who believe in "Global Warming."

I'm looking forward to the graph of the confluence of Global Warming Believers, Democrats, and those who believe that Elvis is still alive.

So you are scientifically illeliterate and quite proud of it. What else is new?


So you are a gullible goof who can't spell "illiterate"?

Here's an old saying that you should pay special attention to: Better to let people think you’re a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

You are the one that is telling virually the whole of the scientific community that you know more than they do. Once again, every scientific society, every National Academy of Science, and every major university on earth states that AGW is correct.

But we are to take the word of right wing nuts over the evidence presented by scientists world wide. Right.......
 
- 40 at night with no Sun.. above 32 F during the day when the Sun shines.. = melting glaciers..

ANTARCTIC WEATHER
"A blinding, shrieking blizzard all day, with the temperature ranging from -60 to -70°F." - Shackleton (1909)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coldest Temp:
-129°F (-89°C) on July 21, 1983
Location: Vostok Station
Warmest Temp:
+59°F (+15°C) on Jan 5, 1974
Location: Vanda Station
Mean Temps:
Winter: -40 to -94°F (-40 to -70°C)
Summer: -5 to -31°F (-15 to -35°C)
Weather in Antarctica - Antarctic Connection

" Note that from 1935-1945, arctic temperatures were much higher than today, and dropped from that peak until about 1960. This is why all of the scare stories on the arctic including last year's much heralded "Arctic Climate Impact Assessment" (ACIA) start their temperature records in 1960 -- it makes the current situation look catastrophic. Yes, things have gotten warmer since 1960 ... but what the fearful scientists somehow forget to tell you is that temperatures were even warmer before that."
Reality in Arctic temperature trends

nsf.gov - National Science Foundation (NSF) News - New Evidence From NSF-funded ANDRILL Demonstrates Climate Warming Affects Antarctic Ice Sheet Stability - US National Science Foundation (NSF)

March 18, 2009


For b-roll on Betacam SP of ANDRILL operating in Antarctica, contact Dena Headlee at (703) 292-7739 or [email protected].

See Other Recent IPY-related News

A five-nation scientific team has published new evidence that even a slight rise in atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide, one of the gases that drives global warming, affects the stability of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS). The massive WAIS covers the continent on the Pacific side of the Transantarctic Mountains. Any substantial melting of the ice sheet would cause a rise in global sea levels.

The research, which was published in the March 19 issue of the journal Nature, is based on investigations by a 56-member team of scientists conducted on a 1,280-meter (4,100-foot)-long sedimentary rock core taken from beneath the sea floor under Antarctica's Ross Ice Shelf during the first project of the ANDRILL (ANtarctic geological DRILLing) research program--the McMurdo Ice Shelf (MIS) Project.

The National Science Foundation (NSF), which manages the U.S. Antarctic Program (USAP), provided about $20 million in support of the ANDRILL program. The other ANDRILL national partners contributed an additional $10 million in science and logistics support.

"The sedimentary record from the ANDRILL project provides scientists with an important analogue that can be used to help predict how ice shelves and the massive WAIS will respond to future global warming over the next few centuries," said Ross Powell, a professor of geology at Northern Illinois University.

"The sedimentary record indicates that under global warming conditions that were similar to those projected to occur over the next century, protective ice shelves could shrink or even disappear and the WAIS would become vulnerable to melting," Powell said. "If the current warm period persists, the ice sheet could diminish substantially or even disappear over time. This would result in a potentially significant rise in sea levels."


nsf.gov - Antarctic Sciences (ANT) News - Climate-related Changes on the Antarctic Peninsula Being Driven from the Top and the Bottom of the Ecosystem - US National Science Foundation (NSF)

March 16, 2009


Scientists have long established that the Antarctic Peninsula is one of the most rapidly warming spots on Earth. Now, new research using detailed satellite data indicates that the changing climate is affecting not just the penguins at the apex of the food chain, but simultaneously the microscopic life that is the base of the ecosystem.


These are links from your posted links.

:clap2::clap2:
 
These people that deny reality are a damned funny lot. They see something that they somehow thinks supports their ignorance, and they post it without reading or researching the data. They seem to think that paid political blogs and political think tanks have a lock on the truth, and never bother to look at what the overwhelming consensus is among real scientists, particularly the scientists in the field of concern.
 
Why is it so hard to believe that we're fucking up the earth? Is it really that unfathomable? I mean, after 200 years, with 6 billion of us around drilling, extracting, processing, consuming, trashing, and burning the planet. Is it just unlimited? Can it really go on forever with absolutely NO repercussions?

Hmmm.
 
- 40 at night with no Sun.. above 32 F during the day when the Sun shines.. = melting glaciers..

ANTARCTIC WEATHER
"A blinding, shrieking blizzard all day, with the temperature ranging from -60 to -70°F." - Shackleton (1909)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coldest Temp:
-129°F (-89°C) on July 21, 1983
Location: Vostok Station
Warmest Temp:
+59°F (+15°C) on Jan 5, 1974
Location: Vanda Station
Mean Temps:
Winter: -40 to -94°F (-40 to -70°C)
Summer: -5 to -31°F (-15 to -35°C)
Weather in Antarctica - Antarctic Connection

" Note that from 1935-1945, arctic temperatures were much higher than today, and dropped from that peak until about 1960. This is why all of the scare stories on the arctic including last year's much heralded "Arctic Climate Impact Assessment" (ACIA) start their temperature records in 1960 -- it makes the current situation look catastrophic. Yes, things have gotten warmer since 1960 ... but what the fearful scientists somehow forget to tell you is that temperatures were even warmer before that."
Reality in Arctic temperature trends

nsf.gov - National Science Foundation (NSF) News - New Evidence From NSF-funded ANDRILL Demonstrates Climate Warming Affects Antarctic Ice Sheet Stability - US National Science Foundation (NSF)

March 18, 2009


For b-roll on Betacam SP of ANDRILL operating in Antarctica, contact Dena Headlee at (703) 292-7739 or [email protected].

See Other Recent IPY-related News

A five-nation scientific team has published new evidence that even a slight rise in atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide, one of the gases that drives global warming, affects the stability of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS). The massive WAIS covers the continent on the Pacific side of the Transantarctic Mountains. Any substantial melting of the ice sheet would cause a rise in global sea levels.

The research, which was published in the March 19 issue of the journal Nature, is based on investigations by a 56-member team of scientists conducted on a 1,280-meter (4,100-foot)-long sedimentary rock core taken from beneath the sea floor under Antarctica's Ross Ice Shelf during the first project of the ANDRILL (ANtarctic geological DRILLing) research program--the McMurdo Ice Shelf (MIS) Project.

The National Science Foundation (NSF), which manages the U.S. Antarctic Program (USAP), provided about $20 million in support of the ANDRILL program. The other ANDRILL national partners contributed an additional $10 million in science and logistics support.

"The sedimentary record from the ANDRILL project provides scientists with an important analogue that can be used to help predict how ice shelves and the massive WAIS will respond to future global warming over the next few centuries," said Ross Powell, a professor of geology at Northern Illinois University.

"The sedimentary record indicates that under global warming conditions that were similar to those projected to occur over the next century, protective ice shelves could shrink or even disappear and the WAIS would become vulnerable to melting," Powell said. "If the current warm period persists, the ice sheet could diminish substantially or even disappear over time. This would result in a potentially significant rise in sea levels."


nsf.gov - Antarctic Sciences (ANT) News - Climate-related Changes on the Antarctic Peninsula Being Driven from the Top and the Bottom of the Ecosystem - US National Science Foundation (NSF)

March 16, 2009


Scientists have long established that the Antarctic Peninsula is one of the most rapidly warming spots on Earth. Now, new research using detailed satellite data indicates that the changing climate is affecting not just the penguins at the apex of the food chain, but simultaneously the microscopic life that is the base of the ecosystem.


These are links from your posted links.

The research utilized in that article in Nature was already discounted - as is so often the case with such examples - of course the discounted story was hardly printed, and the incorrect data continues to be circulated.

Look it up - true dat.

I know the UW guy who was the primary researcher on that expedition - nice guy, but quite the radical environmentalist.
 

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