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Science Of The Bible - My Original Work

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Do you really suppose you can prove (or disprove) the existence of God when so many before you have failed? What arrogance. Just accept that belief in God only requires faith not facts.

Says one who doesn't know the facts. Hollie knows how to find the facts now, but still doesn't understand how to use them. You do not even know history. Just what is the inspired words of God? It's part history. History says that from our fallen parents came a fallen world, but what happened after that?
What facts? But you do raise an interesting question, to wit: "Just what is the inspired words of God?". I honestly have no idea what you mean by inspired. Did they originally come from God and have been preserved by men or has he had a hand in the copying and translating of His words up to this day?

Inspired words mean from those of men who were given God's words to write down. Next, they were verified by the kings of Israel.

You mention arrogance and that is for those who want to be like God. I think that's pretty much all of us since God's first commandment is thou shalt have no other gods before me.

So what does the inspired words tell us about history? It tells us our first countries and governments were formed after the flood in the Table of Nations (seventy nations). We haven't been able to figure out all of these nations that descended from Noah's family, but they went their separate ways after the Tower of Babel. However, we do get what nation rose to become the first empire (?). It may not be the first, but it was the first great empire -- Babylon, an evil empire.

Oh dear. The Tower of Babel is a myth. There were zigguraughts all over the ME.. still are.

This particular one was supposed built 130 years after Noah landed the Ark.

Babylon was not an evil empire.. Hebrews have been demonizing the neighbors for thousands of years.
 

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Do you really suppose you can prove (or disprove) the existence of God when so many before you have failed? What arrogance. Just accept that belief in God only requires faith not facts.

Says one who doesn't know the facts. Hollie knows how to find the facts now, but still doesn't understand how to use them. You do not even know history. Just what is the inspired words of God? It's part history. History says that from our fallen parents came a fallen world, but what happened after that?
What facts? But you do raise an interesting question, to wit: "Just what is the inspired words of God?". I honestly have no idea what you mean by inspired. Did they originally come from God and have been preserved by men or has he had a hand in the copying and translating of His words up to this day?

Inspired words mean from those of men who were given God's words to write down. Next, they were verified by the kings of Israel.

You mention arrogance and that is for those who want to be like God. I think that's pretty much all of us since God's first commandment is thou shalt have no other gods before me.

So what does the inspired words tell us about history? It tells us our first countries and governments were formed after the flood in the Table of Nations (seventy nations). We haven't been able to figure out all of these nations that descended from Noah's family, but they went their separate ways after the Tower of Babel. However, we do get what nation rose to become the first empire (?). It may not be the first, but it was the first great empire -- Babylon, an evil empire.

Oh dear. The Tower of Babel is a myth. There were zigguraughts all over the ME.. still are.

This particular one was supposed built 130 years after Noah landed the Ark.

Babylon was not an evil empire.. Hebrews have been demonizing the neighbors for thousands of years.
I don't think you know what you are talking about and provide no evidence for your claims. OTOH, the Smithsonian backs me up.
 

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Do you really suppose you can prove (or disprove) the existence of God when so many before you have failed? What arrogance. Just accept that belief in God only requires faith not facts.

Says one who doesn't know the facts. Hollie knows how to find the facts now, but still doesn't understand how to use them. You do not even know history. Just what is the inspired words of God? It's part history. History says that from our fallen parents came a fallen world, but what happened after that?
What facts? But you do raise an interesting question, to wit: "Just what is the inspired words of God?". I honestly have no idea what you mean by inspired. Did they originally come from God and have been preserved by men or has he had a hand in the copying and translating of His words up to this day?

Inspired words mean from those of men who were given God's words to write down. Next, they were verified by the kings of Israel.

You mention arrogance and that is for those who want to be like God. I think that's pretty much all of us since God's first commandment is thou shalt have no other gods before me.

So what does the inspired words tell us about history? It tells us our first countries and governments were formed after the flood in the Table of Nations (seventy nations). We haven't been able to figure out all of these nations that descended from Noah's family, but they went their separate ways after the Tower of Babel. However, we do get what nation rose to become the first empire (?). It may not be the first, but it was the first great empire -- Babylon, an evil empire.

Oh dear. The Tower of Babel is a myth. There were zigguraughts all over the ME.. still are.

This particular one was supposed built 130 years after Noah landed the Ark.

Babylon was not an evil empire.. Hebrews have been demonizing the neighbors for thousands of years.
I don't think you know what you are talking about and provide no evidence for your claims. OTOH, the Smithsonian backs me up.

Smithsonian backs you up on what?
 

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Do you really suppose you can prove (or disprove) the existence of God when so many before you have failed? What arrogance. Just accept that belief in God only requires faith not facts.

Says one who doesn't know the facts. Hollie knows how to find the facts now, but still doesn't understand how to use them. You do not even know history. Just what is the inspired words of God? It's part history. History says that from our fallen parents came a fallen world, but what happened after that?
What facts? But you do raise an interesting question, to wit: "Just what is the inspired words of God?". I honestly have no idea what you mean by inspired. Did they originally come from God and have been preserved by men or has he had a hand in the copying and translating of His words up to this day?

Inspired words mean from those of men who were given God's words to write down. Next, they were verified by the kings of Israel.

You mention arrogance and that is for those who want to be like God. I think that's pretty much all of us since God's first commandment is thou shalt have no other gods before me.

So what does the inspired words tell us about history? It tells us our first countries and governments were formed after the flood in the Table of Nations (seventy nations). We haven't been able to figure out all of these nations that descended from Noah's family, but they went their separate ways after the Tower of Babel. However, we do get what nation rose to become the first empire (?). It may not be the first, but it was the first great empire -- Babylon, an evil empire.

Oh dear. The Tower of Babel is a myth. There were zigguraughts all over the ME.. still are.

This particular one was supposed built 130 years after Noah landed the Ark.

Babylon was not an evil empire.. Hebrews have been demonizing the neighbors for thousands of years.
I don't think you know what you are talking about and provide no evidence for your claims. OTOH, the Smithsonian backs me up.

Smithsonian backs you up on what?
On the Tower of Babel's existence. Like I said, you don't know what you are talking about.
 

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Do you really suppose you can prove (or disprove) the existence of God when so many before you have failed? What arrogance. Just accept that belief in God only requires faith not facts.

Says one who doesn't know the facts. Hollie knows how to find the facts now, but still doesn't understand how to use them. You do not even know history. Just what is the inspired words of God? It's part history. History says that from our fallen parents came a fallen world, but what happened after that?
What facts? But you do raise an interesting question, to wit: "Just what is the inspired words of God?". I honestly have no idea what you mean by inspired. Did they originally come from God and have been preserved by men or has he had a hand in the copying and translating of His words up to this day?

Inspired words mean from those of men who were given God's words to write down. Next, they were verified by the kings of Israel.

You mention arrogance and that is for those who want to be like God. I think that's pretty much all of us since God's first commandment is thou shalt have no other gods before me.

So what does the inspired words tell us about history? It tells us our first countries and governments were formed after the flood in the Table of Nations (seventy nations). We haven't been able to figure out all of these nations that descended from Noah's family, but they went their separate ways after the Tower of Babel. However, we do get what nation rose to become the first empire (?). It may not be the first, but it was the first great empire -- Babylon, an evil empire.

Oh dear. The Tower of Babel is a myth. There were zigguraughts all over the ME.. still are.

This particular one was supposed built 130 years after Noah landed the Ark.

Babylon was not an evil empire.. Hebrews have been demonizing the neighbors for thousands of years.
I don't think you know what you are talking about and provide no evidence for your claims. OTOH, the Smithsonian backs me up.

Smithsonian backs you up on what?
On the Tower of Babel's existence. Like I said, you don't know what you are talking about.
How long ago was the Tower built and what language was spoken before it? Just curious.
 
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Mark 8:36 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?

I diverge from science to address wisdom, an important attribute for mankind which all too often is improperly conflated with intelligence or learnedness.

The suicide of billionaire software protection giant, John McAfee in a Spanish prison, was recently announced. Other gainers of the whole world, so to speak, include billionaires Jeffrey Epstein, who also committed suicide in a jail cell, Bernie Sanders, who died in prison, convicted rapist Bill Cosby, who will die in prison, Hollywood mogul Phil Spector, a convicted murderer who will also die in prison. What did their wealth and fame profit them?
 

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Do you really suppose you can prove (or disprove) the existence of God when so many before you have failed? What arrogance. Just accept that belief in God only requires faith not facts.

Says one who doesn't know the facts. Hollie knows how to find the facts now, but still doesn't understand how to use them. You do not even know history. Just what is the inspired words of God? It's part history. History says that from our fallen parents came a fallen world, but what happened after that?
What facts? But you do raise an interesting question, to wit: "Just what is the inspired words of God?". I honestly have no idea what you mean by inspired. Did they originally come from God and have been preserved by men or has he had a hand in the copying and translating of His words up to this day?

Inspired words mean from those of men who were given God's words to write down. Next, they were verified by the kings of Israel.

You mention arrogance and that is for those who want to be like God. I think that's pretty much all of us since God's first commandment is thou shalt have no other gods before me.

So what does the inspired words tell us about history? It tells us our first countries and governments were formed after the flood in the Table of Nations (seventy nations). We haven't been able to figure out all of these nations that descended from Noah's family, but they went their separate ways after the Tower of Babel. However, we do get what nation rose to become the first empire (?). It may not be the first, but it was the first great empire -- Babylon, an evil empire.

Oh dear. The Tower of Babel is a myth. There were zigguraughts all over the ME.. still are.

This particular one was supposed built 130 years after Noah landed the Ark.

Babylon was not an evil empire.. Hebrews have been demonizing the neighbors for thousands of years.
I don't think you know what you are talking about and provide no evidence for your claims. OTOH, the Smithsonian backs me up.

Smithsonian backs you up on what?
On the Tower of Babel's existence. Like I said, you don't know what you are talking about.

They built Ziggurats all over the ME. Commonly known as watch towers or signal towers. In the daytime you could see an enemy approaching from 20 miles away.. at night you could signal with a signal fire.

Some of them are still standing. There was a tower in Shinar, but the story about the birth of different languages is mythos. Some scholars think the story is about the failure of a civilization and the loss of literacy.
 

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Science of the Bible



I graduated with a degree in chemical engineering, a science by any definition of the term. Therefore I understand, and subscribe to the tenets of the scientific method. If anything has given me an appreciation for the Profound Fortuitous Interdependencies* which make life possible, it is the objectivity engendered by my scientific background, coupled with common sense so often lacking in many highly educated people. It is completely anti-intellectual of the godless Left to denigrate Christians, often maliciously so. Calling Christians “fundies” and “believers in a flat earth” seems to give many people the perverse notion that they are erudite, and can consign us to the backwaters of ignorance. Just as Jesus overturned the tables of the money-changers in His Temple, so too is it my intention to overturn the tables of the intolerant Left with these personally written observations correlating science with its Creator.



Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


The Holy Bible was written more than 2000 years ago. In 1924, Edwin Hubble proved that the spiral nebula in the constellation Andromeda was a separate island universe, apart from the Milky Way. This extended the size and scale of our universe by many orders of magnitude. Then, after hearing Albert Einstein's theory of relativity, Georges Lemaître, an ordained Catholic priest, proposed the “primeval atom” in 1927 – in other words, the creation of the universe. This breathtaking advancement in scientific thinking came not from a pontificating atheist, claiming to have exclusive jurisdiction over truth and science, but rather from a devoted follower of the Creator of heaven and earth. Contrary to their pretensions, atheists do not possess the only key to discovery and knowledge.


In 1929, Fred Hubble discovered the Red Shift, eliminating any doubt that Lemaitre was right and Einstein wrong. Einstein had said to Lemaître , "your mathematics is correct but your physics is abominable." This phenomenon, Red Shift, shows that some galaxies are moving away from us at greater speeds than others, and that such velocities are proportional to their distance. This gave strong corroboration to the Big Bang theory of creation. The residual heat predicted in 1927 by Lemaître, and derisively dismissed by Albert Einstein, was later confirmed by Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson who in 1965 discovered the residual background radiation which is a remnant of the Big Bang. Penzias and Wilson of course received the Nobel Prize for their discovery, which was accidental. The penning of Genesis 1:1 was not.


Prior to Lemaître’s radical proposal, scientists believed that the universe was eternal, that it had always been as we see it today. An inherent aspect of the Steady State Universe is the assumption that matter is continuously being created, somewhere, somehow. This passed for science, until it was disproved in the 1965 Astrophysical Journal.



So we see Twentieth Century confirmation of the profoundly deep science originally expressed in the first sentence of the first paragraph of the first book of the Bible, and scientifically advanced centuries later by a Catholic priest (A “Fundie,”as Christians are so snidely denigrated by atheists), before anyone else.


Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.




Modern chemistry could not have begun before 1802, when John Dalton formally provided experimental evidence that matter is composed of discrete atoms. Everything before this was mere speculation – guesswork. Nevertheless, it is clearly stated in Genesis that man is “formed of the dust of the ground”, which is to say, the same elements of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, iron, nitrogen, etc, that we find in . . . dust of the ground, minerals.


Genesis 2:19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every foul of the air;


The same elements which form humans also form animals everywhere. However, there is no Biblical reference to “a living soul” with respect to animals. Nor do animals have the capacity to worship and appreciate the spirituality and hope that is one of the premier hallmarks of mankind, and our supreme bequest.


Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.


One would think that as a result of the disciplines and analyses and benefits the manmade invention of science has helped us to discover, mankind should have been able to eliminate corruption and violence so prevalent thousands of years ago. Today, we have tools of production and health and social enlightenment unimaginable when the book of Genesis was written. But the earth today is still full of corruption and violence. Cornucopias of goods and services have not satisfied mankind’s lust for more, nor have psychologists and sociologists resolved the complex issues that lead people into destructive behavior. With burgeoning prison populations, and monstrous acts of evil on the increase worldwide, there seems little hope that corruption and violence will ever be eradicated by secular science.


Genesis 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

Although the North American Continent was unknown when the Bible was written, paleontologists confirm that the interior of North America was once covered by shallow seas. Fossil evidence from distant parts of the globe that were unknown to inhabitants of ancient Israel lends scientific confirmation to the Noachian Flood described in the most ancient book of science known to man, the Holy Bible. . I do not pretend to know the length of the six "days" of creation. However it is abundantly clear to me that the Elegance of Everything and the insuperable statistics of abiogenesis and the Anthropic Principle are eternally inexplicable by any exclusively naturalistic method. To those with eyes, God’s Hand is clearly visible everywhere one looks.


Exodus 3:14 I am hath sent me unto you.....


John 9:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.




The naturalistic, if you will, “scientific” approach to explaining how man and energy and matter and space originated is to examine what is observable, and formulate hypotheses and theories based on observation and reason. There is no scientific explanation for the origin of matter and energy and information at the Moment of Creation, the Singularity, and obviously no experiment can examine, much less confirm any hypothesis of what first happened to lead to us and everything we see.

In contrast, God defies scientific explanation because He is outside its purview. If miracles were scientifically explicable, they would not be miracles. After all, God created the physical realm that is the subject of scientific inquiry and we are still desperately trying to understand that aspect of His handiwork. Had mere mortals written where God came from without divine inspiration, they surely could not have presented such an elegant explanation as “I am” – an explanation that suffices even two thousand years later. Where did God come from? "I am." The universe is not eternal, but God is.


I have only a vague notion of how my computer works as I type this on it. Although I don’t know how it works, I do know that it is real and that it operates in a marvelous, almost magical way. I don’t need to understand things to believe in and use them. And how much more marvelous is my brain and yours than these primitive computers, not one of which designed, much less built itself.



Many people don’t realize that science basically involves assumptions and faith. Wonderful things in both science and religion come from our efforts based on observations, thoughtful assumptions, faith and logic. (With the findings of modern physics, it) seems extremely unlikely (that the existence of life and humanity are ) just accidental.” – Charles Townes, Nobel Laureate and Professor of Physics at UC Berkeley





Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.



Has anyone the slightest doubt as to how “empty” the North Pole is? Nobody living in the Middle East could possibly have visited “the north” so as to confirm what was then being written. These immutable scientific truths – two here in a single sentence - were far too coincidental to be attributable to luck. No, they were divinely inspired, as were so many things in the Bible. The earth truly hangs “upon nothing”, as confirmed by countless photographs from satellites and space stations, not to mention men on the moon, and the north is indeed an “empty place” by any measure.



Job 26:14 Lo, these are parts of his ways: but how little a portion is heard of him? but the thunder of his power who can understand?



With all our wisdom, and all our science, and all our research, “who can understand” anything today. Ultimate scientific answers continue to elude us everywhere one looks ! The pretense is that all this magnificent science that we see and study arose from nothing, based solely on megatime and megauniverses. Insuperable statistical impossibilities are explained away with clever wordplay and nebulous theories – anything at all to deny the Hand of the Creator so evident to casual observers, of all educational backgrounds, and all nationalities, and all times. That is, except for those who will not see.


Job 28:5 As for the earth, out of it cometh bread: and under it is turned up as it were fire.



The molten iron core of the earth was inconceivable because it was not discoverable when this passage was written. “Under (earth) it is turned up as it were fire.”

Ah, some may say, “But there were volcanoes even then.” True enough. But are not volcanoes both isolated and rare, and not so much “under” the earth as above it? The molten core of the earth accords far better with this passage. Their scientific agreement is not coincidental, but rather Divinely inspired and guided.



Job 38:1,2 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said

Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?




How often one hears words uttered without knowledge by pretenders of science and enlightenment.



Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?



The most learned scientist of antiquity could not have imagined the depth of this question. When light is "parted" by a diffraction grating, it can be shown to act both as particles as well as waves. These combinations of properties are difficult to understand much less explain. And the prodigious amounts of energy transmitted by solar radiation does indeed scatter the wind upon the earth as it heats different substances at different rates. Job could not have offered an adequate answer to the question, along the lines of: "Discrete photons of light travel together as a wave until parted into disparate visible components by striking and reflecting from solid objects into our eyes, while other wavelengths give up their energy as they are absorbed by solids and water. Temperature differentials established by ambient sunlight striking dissimilar surfaces create 'the east wind' so described."



Psalms 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.



NASA maintains a website which is updated daily. Its purpose, however unintended, is to “declare the glory of God” and to “show his handiwork.”



Astronomy Picture of the Day


How remarkable that so repetitive and well known a phenomenon as sunset can delight people of all ages, and all times, and all civilizations. How much more delightful are the glories and handiworks seen in national parks and sightseeing attractions worldwide, so many of which could scarcely have been known by the Bible’s authors. Nor had the first telescope been invented 2000 years ago. How is it that the more deeply we have seen, the more handiwork we have seen? How is it?



Psalms 139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvelous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.



Mankind is indeed “fearfully and wonderfully made.” The sophistication of our construction begins at the atomic level with atoms that are one part in 10^17 nucleus and the rest empty space. Then consider our DNA, which is 45 trillion times more compact and efficient at data storage than today’s sophisticated computer microchips.



Our brains have the memory capacity of 100 billion megabytes, which far exceeds anything conceivably necessary from a “selection” point of view.



Our optic nerves transmit information at 4 gigabaud, which is 71,000 times faster than a dial up modem, and 1,000 times faster than an ultra-high speed T-1 line for a computer.

The human eye sees in exquisite detail, over about 13 orders of magnitude of light intensity. Although the eye is often said to be flawed in its design by Darwinists and atheists, I would very much like to see them replace a human eye with something better which they have designed and built from lab reagents.



Our ears hear over 13 orders of magnitude in sound intensity. Even more amazing, the ears perform a Fourier Analysis. In other words, our eardrums receive a single wave function at the eardrum. Then they break down this single wave function into its constituent sounds. For example, at a concert, your ears hear drums, brass, violins, solo arias, and the person behind you coughing, only because this blended noise is separated inside your ear. If your eyes performed a similar function, they would break down white just as a prism does, into disparate pure colors.



Finally, our two eyes enable us to discern distance (and relative size) by triangulation. Our brains automatically compute the angle of the object seen, and compute its approximate distance. Similarly, our two ears enable us to discern the direction from which noises emanate not only because we have two ears, but also because of the relatively slow speed of sound. A difference in the arrival time from one ear to another of one thousandth to one ten-thousandth of a second is sufficient to discern, so that we can tell generally where a sound originated. If sound were substantially faster, both our ears would hear the sound at about the same time, and we could not enjoy stereophonic music, nor tell where sounds came from.



In His wisdom, God made these velocities profoundly useful to us (as well, of course, as many, many other physical constants besides). They did not "evolve" to such values. And should they have been substantially different, say reversed, no evolutionary "modification" could possibly compensate to give us what we now have.



Biochemistry is so profoundly complex that we are only beginning to appreciate how “wonderfully” we are made. Human blood defies LeChatelier’s Principle, in that when one molecule of oxygen is adsorbed by a hemoglobin molecule, its affinity for oxygen grows, instead of diminishing. The second molecule increases the affinity for the third, and the third for the fourth. This is precisely the reverse of normal chemistry principles and experimental observations. Our bodies’ powers of endurance and healing are absolutely astounding.



The list of features of our wonderful construction begins with conception, continues through growth, and concludes with our spiritual transformations evidenced time and again by the scientific observations of such people as Elisabeth Kubler-Ross. Dr. Kubler-Ross documented hundreds of instances of scientific evidence of a spiritual nature. She convincingly testified that she could not be persuaded of any naturalistic (scientific) explanation for it.



Ecclesiastes 1:13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven;



“To seek out and search by wisdom” truth. This is the very fundamental definition of science.



Ecclesiastes 1:7 All rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence rivers come, thither they return again.



The cyclical nature of nature encompasses us. The water cycle is described only with utmost brevity in Ecclesiastes. Today we understand (considerably better than did Biblical authors) water and its importance in most chemical processes, as well as its profoundly fortuitous cyclical nature, as originally shown in the Bible. Beyond this, we can see and describe cycles of carbon, and nitrogen, and oxygen, and hydrogen. We are able to comprehend the nature of energy, and the conservation of not only energy, but also of matter itself. More complex by far is the transformation of matter into energy, which gives us sunlight continuously. Why should all these things be? And why so reliably? Why are chemical reactions so wonderfully and perfectly reversible? Why? For the same reason that we are “fearfully and wonderfully made”. For that reason. These Profound Fortuitous Interdependencies did not just fall into place with Megaluck over Megatime, as some scientists posit, their fingers crossed.



Ecclesiastes 2:13 Then I saw that wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness.


Again and again there are Biblical references to wisdom, prudence, diligence, and other virtues. The essence of science is the pursuit of truth, knowledge, and facts. However, wisdom requires more than mere knowledge. Wisdom requires the integration of scientific truths with far more virtuous conduct than the mere accretion of naturalism.

Hitler and Stalin appreciated the science of Darwinism for its atheistic implications, but of wisdom, they had none.


Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words;

What vain words? Atheists are "rational," "scientific," "intelligent." Atheists do not seek wisdom, but preach vanity. They claim God's design of the human body is fraught with flaws, and that they could have done a much better job. Vanity, condescension, pretension. These attributes have no place in any discussion of science.

Pride goeth before a fall. - Proverbs 16:18




Ecclesiastes 3:11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.




Can you name even one aspect of our universe that is known “from the beginning to the end”? Research continues everywhere, with absolutely no end remotely in sight. Research at the subatomic level, at the molecular level, at the cellular level, at the human level, at the planetary level, and at the galactic level.

How is it that we don’t know everything about anything, if all that we see came about from nothing, as materialists contend? How is that possible? Infinite complexity from nothing is infinitely absurd and infinitely improbable. There is not the slightest scientific basis or law for their grand proposal. Profound organization and information and consistency and physical laws, originating…. HOW ! An infinite God makes spiritual sense. He is utterly beyond the purview of science - which is merely another of God’s brilliant creations. As to the mocking question of “Who made God,” Professor John Lennox of Cambridge University gives us the answer: “If anybody made God, then He wouldn’t be God, would He!” (See Lennox’ one hour lecture, “A Matter of Gravity” on YouTube.)



Two things are incomprehensible. First, the origin of everything from nothing, and second, God Himself, Who so wondrously explains and accounts for everything else. Everyone must choose his own incomprehensible option. The first is random and meaningless, literally and figuratively. The second option is elegant, beautiful, hopeful, and wonderful beyond understanding. This second option matches the creative genius that surrounds us.



Ecclesiastes 7:9 Reprove not a scorner lest he hate you; rebuke a wise man and he will love you.



Proverbs 9:8 Anger rests in the bosom of fools.



Try reproving an atheist and see how angry and hateful he is.


Proverbs 16:16 How much better is it to get wisdom than gold; and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver.



Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.



Wisdom excelleth folly as far as light excelleth darkness. The Creator of mankind does not want anyone to be fooled; He does not wish that we be gullible, or duped by clever sounding words, whether they be from scientists wearing white robes, or priests wearing white robes. It is the essence of science to search for truth, and ask questions, and seek to answer them. Toward this end, we must acknowledge the extremely transitional nature of scientific “fact”, and the pretexts of contemporary scientific infallibility. Nowhere is the attempt to deceive us more malicious and destructive than when it seeks to deny the very existence of our Creator, and separate us from Him – permanently.



Forty percent of those listed in Who’s Who In Science acknowledge a personal belief in God. You must ask yourself why. Surely these people are not the fools that some scientific atheists accuse you and me of being.



John 3:11, 12 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.



If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?




The timeless veracity and wisdom of this statement is prophetic. After over two thousand years, what is often called the “myth” that is the Holy Bible, cannot remotely be discredited. To the contrary, the obvious and manifest benefits to mankind of Christianity have been repeatedly addressed by professionals in psychology, criminology, and other modern disciplines. The deep and abiding science, beginning with the first sentence in the first Book, is compelling testimony. For these reasons and more, Christianity is today the most popular human organization there has ever been. Yet many still “receive not our witness.” How can this be? Why will mankind not learn?



I Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.



Is there a more concise explanation of the scientific method? “Prove all things”? The essence of modern science is the proof of testable hypotheses, as scientists like to say. Such technique was proposed in the Scriptures which are mocked by so many who are proud of their lack of belief.







Hebrews 3:4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.


This is confirmation of Genesis 1:1. Natural Theology, written in 1809 by William Paley, makes a similar argument from design. Just as a Boeing 747 can never be the product of an explosion in a junkyard, neither can the far more intricate construction of a human being be the ultimate product of random mutations, selectively but blindly “chosen.” See also www.2001Principle.net


Mark 14:7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.




Although not strictly “scientific”, the foregoing verse demonstrates a profound economic truth notwithstanding the astonishing achievements of modern science. Had one the vision to see forward more than 2000 years to witness the abundance of food and material goods we now produce, surely one would have surmised that “the poor” would be no more than a relic of the ancient past. Not so. In fact, nowhere are “the poor” more common and more destitute than in socialist countries led by atheist despots.



Acts 17:26 (God) hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation.



Notwithstanding the vast differences in outward appearance of the peoples of the earth, from fair skinned Norwegians, to African pygmies, “all nations of men” are Homo sapiens. All humans can, within the constraints of blood typing, be transfused by the blood from men of “all nations.” This close biological relationship of mankind was cited before blood types and biological classifications were ever imagined.



John 18:37 Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth?




Eighty-two percent of Americans believe that Jesus Christ was God, according to a survey taken by Princeton Survey Research Associates on Dec 2 and 3, 2004 for Newsweek Magazine. Jesus Christ said that people of the truth hear his voice. Today one especially hears atheists, most of them liberals, reply just as Pontius Pilate did two thousand years ago with a mockingly dishonest question: “What is truth?” when even a ten year old has the capacity to know what truth is. Some things never change.


Luke 21:33; Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.


Just as Genesis 1:1 foretold the scientific truth of the Big Bang, or as it is almost universally called today, “The Moment of Creation”, so too does the Gospel of Luke describe the passing away of matter. Stars like our own sun are consuming their own hydrogen, fusing it into helium, losing vast amounts of mass, and radiating that energy into the heavens. All starlight will eventually pass away, and the universe will ultimately become dark and absolutely cold (“heat death”), devoid of life as we know it. Numerous massive black holes have been indirectly observed. They attract matter and light into their domain, never to be seen again. Or so scientists thought before they once again changed their mind. It is now posited that Black Holes can radiate away energy, which is to say, mass. Even Black Holes seem to pass away.





The duration of primary elements of matter we call protons have a lifetime estimated to be 1033 years. The heaven and the earth shall pass into cold, dark oblivion, just as stated in the Holy Bible, a book ceaselessly mocked and ridiculed by the left. Thousands of years after the Bible said heaven and earth shall pass away, the Second Law of Thermodynamics simply repeated it, in the name of “science.” Universal heat death is the ultimate and final increase in entropy, or disorder. The origin of our universe as well as its demise were both described in an ancient book with astonishing precision. The universe has not always existed, as previously thought by scientists, nor was it assembled piecemeal. It was “created” with a Big Bang. The universe will not continue on forever, it will, it must pass away. These were not lucky guesses. They were inspirations from our Creator who wrote The Book, on life, on science, and on a meaningful life.

















* Profound Fortuitous Interdependencies, a term I invented, refers to the interrelated factors surrounding us that are utterly essential to life as Americans know and enjoy it.



First example: Oxygen happens to be one of the more reactive elements, and it exists in the most reactive phase, viz. gas. This dynamic equilibrium producing our essential breath of life is possible only because: 1. Reactions are reversible (how profoundly fortuitous!) and; 2. The reversibility of such reactions is, so far as we can tell, 100% and; 3. Natural laws are consistent and harmonious and discoverable, and; 4. Plants recycle oxygen from carbon dioxide, and water.



Second example: The sophisticated engineering of matter, constructed primarily out of three simple building blocks, electrons, protons, and neutrons, is evidenced by the fact that only one part in 10exp17 is matter, and the rest is empty space. Moreover these three foundational components can be combined with only slight variations to give us unique characteristics as found in metals, including high shear strength, malleability, ductility, high heat and electrical conductivity, profound availability, high melting points, and other features without which there could be no airplanes, cars, or even internal combustion engines. As essential as metals** are to internal combustion engines, they would be virtually worthless without hydrocarbons to burn in them, which hydrocarbons just happen to be available in wondrous, underground storage tanks, to be refined and used worldwide.

But without oxygen, and without its dispersal throughout our atmosphere, there could be no cars, no plane rides to faraway places, and no fires, even inside engines. Fire, a simple chemical reaction we have always taken for granted, is but one of the countless Profound Fortuitous Interdependencies.



** In contrast to water, plastic, glass, and fused quartz, which transmit light with near perfection, unlike metals.
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Mark 8:36 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?

I diverge from science to address wisdom, an important attribute for mankind which all too often is improperly conflated with intelligence or learnedness.

The suicide of billionaire software protection giant, John McAfee in a Spanish prison, was recently announced. Other gainers of the whole world, so to speak, include billionaires Jeffrey Epstein, who also committed suicide in a jail cell, Bernie Sanders, who died in prison, convicted rapist Bill Cosby, who will die in prison, Hollywood mogul Phil Spector, a convicted murderer who will also die in prison. What did their wealth and fame profit them?

Add Steve Bing, who inherited $600,000,000 from his grandfather when Bing was 18 years old. After blowing all these millions, Steve jumped from his 27th floor Century City penthouse at age 55.

"People who think money buys happiness don't have money, ha ha ha."
- Billionaire David Geffen
 

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One of the problems shared by religious extremists is their need to pretend their holy texts are science texts.
One of the problems shared by atheistic fanatics is their need to pretend that they invented science.
 

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Add Steve Bing, who inherited $600,000,000 from his grandfather when Bing was 18 years old. After blowing all these millions, Steve jumped from his 27th floor Century City penthouse at age 55.

"People who think money buys happiness don't have money, ha ha ha." - Billionaire David Geffen
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Add Steve Bing, who inherited $600,000,000 from his grandfather ...
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your point about fortunes or inherited wealth at best is lame those extreme examples are rare and far between - the more corrupt and evil aspect of that argument is not money but rather christian - family values - used in disguise as greed and selfishness, the lack of consideration for all but themselves. a christian, desert religion cancer lasting for centuries.
 

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What fake science would that be?

The methods of science make no appeals to supernaturalism. I understand your goal is to denigrate the methods of science, but using fear and superstition that is derived from your belief in the supernatural doesn't further that goal.

You are dismissing the fact that religious institutions have often been a yolk around the neck of science and discovery. I think people are vastly more tolerant about scientific truths today than they were say, 400 years ago. In large part that's because religion has been throttled by the secular institutions. Not too many weathermen being burned at the stake these days because they predict a solar eclipse or a drought.

The day of the Christian church being able to imprison or lop the head off a person of contradicts church dogma has come and gone.
The methods of science make no pretense that GOD doesn't exist.
More .

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your point about fortunes or inherited wealth at best is lame those extreme examples are rare and far between - the more corrupt and evil aspect of that argument is not money but rather christian - family values - used in disguise as greed and selfishness, the lack of consideration for all but themselves. a christian, desert religion cancer lasting for centuries.
More like 2000 years plus another 4 to 5 thousand years. Let's see you top that.
 

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The methods of science make no pretense that GOD doesn't exist.

More like 2000 years plus another 4 to 5 thousand years. Let's see you top that.
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you kid yourself - there will be finality at one point or anther.

the 4th century christian cancer, or the others included - they've never really been very liked by anyone but by the worst of characters. who raise their children to be just like them.
 

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you kid yourself - there will be finality at one point or anther.

the 4th century christian cancer, or the others included - they've never really been very liked by anyone but by the worst of characters. who raise their children to be just like them.
Not a fans of Christians?

1. Christianity promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness.

2. Christianity created wonderful charities and organizations.

3. Christian persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.

4. Christianity has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing.

5. Christianity gave us the concept of subsidiarity.

6. Christianity has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.

7. Christianity teaches accountability and responsibility.

8. Christianity teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.

9. Christianity teaches that actions have consequences.

10. Christianity inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.

11. Christianity helps us feel connected to one another and to nature.

12. Christianity helps us feel less alone in the world.

13. Christianity serves to ennoble the human spirit.

14. Christianity serves to bind the community together.

15. Christianity inspires love, peace and happiness.

16. Christianity serves to create traditions.

17. Christianity brings order to our lives.

18. Christianity brings comfort to the terminally ill.

19. Christianity can act as a source of hope for the oppressed.

20. Christianity teaches that we can transform ourselves.

21. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.

22. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church.

23. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church.

24. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market.

25. The Catholic Church invented the university.

26. Western law grew out of Church canon law.

27. The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life.

28. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.

29. Christianity gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians.

30. Christianity gave us America.

31. Christianity gave us incredible artwork.

32. Christianity gave us incredible music.

33. Christianity gave us incredible architecture.

34. Christianity has spread democracy.

35. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.

36. Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII.

37. Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII.

38. Christians put a man on the moon.

39. Christians ended the cold war.
 

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you kid yourself - there will be finality at one point or anther.

the 4th century christian cancer, or the others included - they've never really been very liked by anyone but by the worst of characters. who raise their children to be just like them.
Do you love God?
 

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The Holy Bible was written more than 2000 years ago.
It is not true. Authentic manuscripts of canonized scriptures date back to around the 10th century AD and originated in the Frankish empire.
 

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They are engaged in tricks, give ancient manuscripts with similar plots to the biblical mythology, but in the same way one can consider the "biblical" Sumeroacadian mythology.
And with this approach, there is still a funny confusion there, because an analogue of Yahweh, who was a creator of man from clay is the god of the Underworld
It was Enki or Anu, I don't remember exactly. They sculpted people with their mistress in a drunken frenzy, so they turned out to be imperfect
 
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Of course, the biblical stories are secondary interpretations of the same myths that the Frankish priests adapted to their interests, but this does not mean that they are equal to them in terms of time of appearance. It's a lie.
 

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