Saving The Party, And Saving America

[PoliticalChic]

1. Toward that end, we need to have two American parties, two parties based on American heritage and American values.
Today's Democrat Party does not fit that description. It is a party base on foreign ideas, methods and values. It is a FarLeft party in a nation with no Far Right.

And real Democrats know that.


2. "To save their party, Democrats should return to the center
BY JOE LIEBERMAN

...many of my fellow Democrats have begun to panic, and with good cause. Support for the party has cratered amid ballooning inflation, spiking crime, and widespread fears over problems ranging from immigration to national security. Some leaders on the left of the Democratic Party have curiously taken this moment of peril for Democrats to argue for more of the same, to double down on the progressive agenda pushed by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).
But that response ignores the reality staring the party in the face.


3. Democrats are in trouble because they have strayed from the pledge President Biden made to the American people during the 2020 campaign,...
...Clinton and Obama, were also elected on the promise to govern as inclusive moderates. They both ran into political troubles soon after taking office, trying to accommodate the left of the Democratic Party.

4. ....conservatism is not dead, .... Polling today also makes clear that the American people identify themselves more as conservatives than liberals, but most of all they are hungry for bipartisan centrist government accomplishments.
....pivot back to the central promise of the president’s 2020 campaign and give voters the policies that they want, instead of telling them what they should want."

To save their party, Democrats should return to the center

With little more than a half-year before November’s midterm elections, many of my fellow Democrats have begun to panic, and with good cause. Support for the party has cratered amid balloo…

thehill.com

5.The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.


These are not Ameican ideas, methods or values.


There once was a Democrat Party worth voting for. This one, is not......and real Democrats are finally saying it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

who gives a flying fuck about the parties?.....they can both go to hell....

 

[initforme]

The center is the place to be no doubt.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

"There once was a Democrat Party worth voting for."

I'm curious when you think this was. I'd say there are particular Democrats, and on the other side particular Republicans, who were maybe worth voting for, or were at least decent people even if I probably wouldn't vote for them, throughout the history of the country, but when has either party as a whole ever stood for anything more than doing whatever is necessary to win a given election? That's the function of a political party: to rile up one group of people in opposition to another group of people. That's the function of politics as a whole, really.

 

[bodecea]

1. Toward that end, we need to have two American parties, two parties based on American heritage and American values.
Today's Democrat Party does not fit that description. It is a party base on foreign ideas, methods and values. It is a FarLeft party in a nation with no Far Right.

And real Democrats know that.


2. "To save their party, Democrats should return to the center
BY JOE LIEBERMAN

...many of my fellow Democrats have begun to panic, and with good cause. Support for the party has cratered amid ballooning inflation, spiking crime, and widespread fears over problems ranging from immigration to national security. Some leaders on the left of the Democratic Party have curiously taken this moment of peril for Democrats to argue for more of the same, to double down on the progressive agenda pushed by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).
But that response ignores the reality staring the party in the face.


3. Democrats are in trouble because they have strayed from the pledge President Biden made to the American people during the 2020 campaign,...
...Clinton and Obama, were also elected on the promise to govern as inclusive moderates. They both ran into political troubles soon after taking office, trying to accommodate the left of the Democratic Party.

4. ....conservatism is not dead, .... Polling today also makes clear that the American people identify themselves more as conservatives than liberals, but most of all they are hungry for bipartisan centrist government accomplishments.
....pivot back to the central promise of the president’s 2020 campaign and give voters the policies that they want, instead of telling them what they should want."

To save their party, Democrats should return to the center

With little more than a half-year before November’s midterm elections, many of my fellow Democrats have begun to panic, and with good cause. Support for the party has cratered amid balloo…

thehill.com

5.The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.


These are not Ameican ideas, methods or values.


There once was a Democrat Party worth voting for. This one, is not......and real Democrats are finally saying it.

Notice you list "the party" first.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"There once was a Democrat Party worth voting for."

I'm curious when you think this was. I'd say there are particular Democrats, and on the other side particular Republicans, who were maybe worth voting for, or were at least decent people even if I probably wouldn't vote for them, throughout the history of the country, but when has either party as a whole ever stood for anything more than doing whatever is necessary to win a given election? That's the function of a political party: to rile up one group of people in opposition to another group of people. That's the function of politics as a whole, really.

Are you familiar with Daniel Patrick Moynihan?

The smartest Democrat ever elected. A scholar, an honorable man, a Democrat.

Had his message been accepted by his party, we wouldn't be a racialist nation, and black people would have advanced far furthe than they have.
I have read with great interest and agreement, what he wrote about black Americans, and his view that they could do quite well on their own.

He was NY Senator back in the 1940s, but....."Daniel Patrick Moynihan (March 16, 1927 – March 26, 2003) was an American politician, diplomat, and sociologist. A member of the Democratic Party, he represented New York in the United States Senate from 1977 until 2001 and served as an adviser to Republican President Richard Nixon."

He was a real American, but his voice was drowned out by the Marxism that was injected by FDR.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan (March 16, 1927 – March 26, 2003) was an American politician, diplomat, and sociologist. A member of the Democratic Party, he represented New York in the United States Senate from 1977 until 2001 and served as an adviser to Republican President Richard Nixon.
Before, and with notable exceptions, the Democrats have not been an American party since the 32nd President.



This:
The Constitution was a distillation of the views of Madison, Jefferson and Franklin. Progressivism is from the views of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"There once was a Democrat Party worth voting for."

I'm curious when you think this was. I'd say there are particular Democrats, and on the other side particular Republicans, who were maybe worth voting for, or were at least decent people even if I probably wouldn't vote for them, throughout the history of the country, but when has either party as a whole ever stood for anything more than doing whatever is necessary to win a given election? That's the function of a political party: to rile up one group of people in opposition to another group of people. That's the function of politics as a whole, really.

".... but when has either party as a whole ever stood for anything more than doing whatever is necessary to win a given election?"


You mis-structure the argument.

It is not the fault of the parties, the fact that the current Democrats are really Nazis,.....but the fault of the electorate that has lost the ability to behave like adults.


Most still vote for persons, rather than policies.

Here is one poster who I believed was intelligent, until he wrote this:
In a thread, before the election, I said: I can list dozens of Biden policies that are anti-American, and that I can attack.

He wrote: “This isn't about policies.
Trump and his cult are attacking the fundamental premise of the republic and the sovereign will of the people. It's a disgrace.”
Why We Lost America…. post #21



And we all see the result.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Toward that end, we need to have two American parties, two parties based on American heritage and American values.
Today's Democrat Party does not fit that description. It is a party base on foreign ideas, methods and values. It is a FarLeft party in a nation with no Far Right.

And real Democrats know that.


2. "To save their party, Democrats should return to the center
BY JOE LIEBERMAN

...many of my fellow Democrats have begun to panic, and with good cause. Support for the party has cratered amid ballooning inflation, spiking crime, and widespread fears over problems ranging from immigration to national security. Some leaders on the left of the Democratic Party have curiously taken this moment of peril for Democrats to argue for more of the same, to double down on the progressive agenda pushed by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).
But that response ignores the reality staring the party in the face.


3. Democrats are in trouble because they have strayed from the pledge President Biden made to the American people during the 2020 campaign,...
...Clinton and Obama, were also elected on the promise to govern as inclusive moderates. They both ran into political troubles soon after taking office, trying to accommodate the left of the Democratic Party.

4. ....conservatism is not dead, .... Polling today also makes clear that the American people identify themselves more as conservatives than liberals, but most of all they are hungry for bipartisan centrist government accomplishments.
....pivot back to the central promise of the president’s 2020 campaign and give voters the policies that they want, instead of telling them what they should want."

To save their party, Democrats should return to the center

With little more than a half-year before November’s midterm elections, many of my fellow Democrats have begun to panic, and with good cause. Support for the party has cratered amid balloo…

thehill.com

5.The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.


These are not Ameican ideas, methods or values.


There once was a Democrat Party worth voting for. This one, is not......and real Democrats are finally saying it.