Russion Opposition Leader Boris Nemtsov Shot Dead

[Decus]

Neocon Nut Nuzzlers are out in full force today. You don't have a political opponent murdered when your popularity is north of 80% in the polls. This is obviously a 'false flag' event where the truth will never come out.

Dmitry Gudkov, who is an elected member of the Russian parliament has a different take on Putin's positive numbers:

"Mr Gudkov exemplifies this disconnect. He half dismisses the need to engage the wider population. “If, roughly speaking, 60 per cent of the population supports Putin, only 5 per cent are active supporters. The other 55 per cent are zombified TV watchers who will never decide any sort of politics,” he argues. “You show them a different picture [on the TV] tomorrow, and they’ll think differently.”"

Russia Left out in the cold - FT.com

Putin will hold power only as long as he can quiet his opposition...and Putin certainly knows how to do that.

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To be expected from an opposition party member.

It is somewhat more than one person's opinion. Where are Russians getting their information?

"In one kindergarten in the Moscow area, a teacher painted this picture of the world for her five-year-old wards. "The Ukrainians wanted to live with Russia, but the Americans wanted the Ukrainians to live with them. The Americans bomb Ukrainian cities. But don't be afraid. The Russian army is stronger than everyone and will save us from the Americans. Our president is good. He stands for peace. He sends weapons to the separatists and we will win soon. After that, one little boy cried out, "Hurray! It's world war! We'll beat everybody!""

The Absurd World of Russian Public Opinion Opinion The Moscow Times

 

[Sunni Man]

The more I learn about Putin..........the more I admire him and his leadership style. .....

 

[B. Kidd]

Neocon Nut Nuzzlers are out in full force today. You don't have a political opponent murdered when your popularity is north of 80% in the polls. This is obviously a 'false flag' event where the truth will never come out.

Dmitry Gudkov, who is an elected member of the Russian parliament has a different take on Putin's positive numbers:

"Mr Gudkov exemplifies this disconnect. He half dismisses the need to engage the wider population. “If, roughly speaking, 60 per cent of the population supports Putin, only 5 per cent are active supporters. The other 55 per cent are zombified TV watchers who will never decide any sort of politics,” he argues. “You show them a different picture [on the TV] tomorrow, and they’ll think differently.”"

Russia Left out in the cold - FT.com

Putin will hold power only as long as he can quiet his opposition...and Putin certainly knows how to do that.

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To be expected from an opposition party member.

It is somewhat more than one person's opinion. Where are Russians getting their information?

"In one kindergarten in the Moscow area, a teacher painted this picture of the world for her five-year-old wards. "The Ukrainians wanted to live with Russia, but the Americans wanted the Ukrainians to live with them. The Americans bomb Ukrainian cities. But don't be afraid. The Russian army is stronger than everyone and will save us from the Americans. Our president is good. He stands for peace. He sends weapons to the separatists and we will win soon. After that, one little boy cried out, "Hurray! It's world war! We'll beat everybody!""

The Absurd World of Russian Public Opinion Opinion The Moscow Times

Moscow Times is owned by a pro-western Helsinki based company called Sanoma. Wow, who would've thought, a Russian newspaper owned by non-Russians........

 

[Decus]

Neocon Nut Nuzzlers are out in full force today. You don't have a political opponent murdered when your popularity is north of 80% in the polls. This is obviously a 'false flag' event where the truth will never come out.

Dmitry Gudkov, who is an elected member of the Russian parliament has a different take on Putin's positive numbers:

"Mr Gudkov exemplifies this disconnect. He half dismisses the need to engage the wider population. “If, roughly speaking, 60 per cent of the population supports Putin, only 5 per cent are active supporters. The other 55 per cent are zombified TV watchers who will never decide any sort of politics,” he argues. “You show them a different picture [on the TV] tomorrow, and they’ll think differently.”"

Russia Left out in the cold - FT.com

Putin will hold power only as long as he can quiet his opposition...and Putin certainly knows how to do that.

.

To be expected from an opposition party member.

It is somewhat more than one person's opinion. Where are Russians getting their information?

"In one kindergarten in the Moscow area, a teacher painted this picture of the world for her five-year-old wards. "The Ukrainians wanted to live with Russia, but the Americans wanted the Ukrainians to live with them. The Americans bomb Ukrainian cities. But don't be afraid. The Russian army is stronger than everyone and will save us from the Americans. Our president is good. He stands for peace. He sends weapons to the separatists and we will win soon. After that, one little boy cried out, "Hurray! It's world war! We'll beat everybody!""

The Absurd World of Russian Public Opinion Opinion The Moscow Times

Moscow Times is owned by a pro-western Helsinki based company called Sanoma. Wow, who would've thought, a Russian newspaper owned by non-Russians........

I'm sorry if the Moscow Times is an unsatisfactory source of information. How about the New York Times?

An interesting article speaking of Russian TV propaganda and a view of how Russian TV operates:

"Not what the news was, but what they would make it, said Mr. Pomerantsev, the author of a recent book chronicling the moral and financial corruption of modern-day Moscow and the manipulation of a Russian television industry that he later joined.

He listened in amazement, he says, as a prominent news anchor reviewed the coming events as if they were part of a film script, musing on how best to entertain the audience and questioning who that week’s enemy should be."

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"Mr. Pomerantsev’s area of study is propaganda, and he believes he saw many classic techniques at work in Moscow. He says one favorite trick was to put a credible expert next to a neo-Nazi, juxtaposing fact with fiction so as to encourage so much cynicism that viewers believed very little. Another was to give credence to conspiracy theories — by definition difficult to rebut because their proponents are immune to reasoned debate."

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"“What matters in a dictatorship is control of the security services and control of propaganda,” Mr. Pomerantsev said, predicting that there would be more arrests to compensate for the lack of economic progress."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/14/w...ays-putin-is-running-the-show-in-ukraine.html

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[B. Kidd]

Article could just as easily apply to our media anymore.

 

[Decus]

The CBC (Canadian) reported that Russian TV has in essence become a tool of the Russian government:

""Until the end of 2013, when there was still a number of independent media … society was still skeptical to all kinds of this ultra-nationalism or pseudo patriotism," Prokhorova says.


"But in the beginning of 2014, all independent media were practically crushed or absorbed in the big conglomerates which were controlled by the government," she says."

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"One prominent television news program recently suggested that America was pushing its children into homosexuality. As an example, it showed a U.S. television ad for giant "Monster Truck" decals to decorate children’s bedrooms. In the ad, a boy opens his bedroom door on his birthday to find a wall-sized decal of a monster truck. He shrieks with delight, covering his eyes.


The version shown on the Russian program is doctored … the boy opens his door to find images of naked men covering his bedroom wall. The cutaway shows the same shrieking and covering of eyes, as the announcer asks: "Is this what a child’s playroom should look like?" (See the Russian video here, at 43 minutes and 55 seconds into the show, and the original commercial here, or watch them back to back.)"

Russian government propaganda stokes anti-West sentiment - World - CBC News

 

[Steinlight]

I doubt Putin did this. Nemestov is a very unpopular figure in Russia, where as Putin has over 80% support. It wouldn't benefit him in anyway to mark this man for assassination. There is no evidence Putin had anything to do this, Nemestov had many enemies, including many corrupt business dealings, so these types of assassinations aren't uncommon in Russia. But that won't stop liberal and neo-conservative chickenhawks from demonizing Russia for their own political ends, namely bolstering NATO on it's eastern border, military support to the Kiev government, increasing support to internal opposition in Russia for a Maidan there, and further sanctions on Russia.

 

[Decus]

A former Russian general said that the modernizing influence of western countries frightened Russia leadership. NATO was never a factor:

"A few years ago, retired Russian general and former arms negotiator Vladimir Dvorkin wrote in a column for ej.ru that the real cause of the Kremlin’s anxiety about NATO expansion was not fear of invasion - an absurd idea given Russia’s nuclear arsenal - but fear of ‘‘encirclement’’ by more liberal and modernised societies, which would then exert pressure on Russia to follow the same path."

"The idea of the bureaucratic, centralised EU as a beacon of liberty may seem odd to some; but for countries saddled with the legacy of communism, EU membership has been a much more effective path to the rule of law, civil society and a market economy than the space under Moscow’s wing."

Vladimir Putin s circle of fear

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

All conservatives bragging on Putin: This is what he is about; UTTER OPPRESSION AND TYRANNY.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I doubt Putin did this. Nemestov is a very unpopular figure in Russia, where as Putin has over 80% support. It wouldn't benefit him in anyway to mark this man for assassination. There is no evidence Putin had anything to do this, Nemestov had many enemies, including many corrupt business dealings, so these types of assassinations aren't uncommon in Russia. But that won't stop liberal and neo-conservative chickenhawks from demonizing Russia for their own political ends, namely bolstering NATO on it's eastern border, military support to the Kiev government, increasing support to internal opposition in Russia for a Maidan there, and further sanctions on Russia.

Putin doesn't have over 80 percent support; and what I was reading; BN was a threat in many ways.

 

[Hossfly]

The more I learn about Putin..........the more I admire him and his leadership style. .....

Putin was a KGB thug and is now king of the KGB thugs. A murderous swine who wears a suit and tie.

 

[Steinlight]

Yes he is at 86%. And this is a poll conducted by the liberal Levanda Center in Russia which is not a fan of Putin if you know anything about them. Nemestov has very little electoral support. So whatever you read Great Gatsby is misinformation.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Yes he is at 86%. And this is a poll conducted by the liberal Levanda Center in Russia which is not a fan of Putin if you know anything about them. Nemestov has very little electoral support. So whatever you read Great Gatsby is misinformation.

Post your nonsense link.

 

[Steinlight]

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Yes he is at 86%. And this is a poll conducted by the liberal Levanda Center in Russia which is not a fan of Putin if you know anything about them. Nemestov has very little electoral support. So whatever you read Great Gatsby is misinformation.

Post your nonsense link.

Here is multiple links.
Putin 86 - Google Search

Nemestov's party has no seats in the duma. You can look that up on your own.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

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Yes he is at 86%. And this is a poll conducted by the liberal Levanda Center in Russia which is not a fan of Putin if you know anything about them. Nemestov has very little electoral support. So whatever you read Great Gatsby is misinformation.

Post your nonsense link.

Here is multiple links.
Putin 86 - Google Search

Nemestov's party has no seats in the duma. You can look that up on your own.

And Saddam was at 100 percent approval rating.

 

[Decus]

Look closer at the reason for the Putin's popularity if you dare:

"First, Putin’s popularity has been achieved in an information vacuum. An informal set of censorship rules, actively enforced by the Kremlin, makes it virtually impossible to discuss important issues and question official actions through the mass media. Today, independent voices rarely reach into Russian living rooms over the airwaves. In recent months, the government has tightened its noose, pressuring even outlets serving niche audiences, such as the news Web site Lenta.ru, the newspaper Vedomosti and the Moscow station TV Rain. Meanwhile, feverish state propaganda feeds Russian television audiences an unchallenged and delusive flow of information designed to show the country’s leaders in the most positive light while blaming problems on “fascists,” “foreign agents” and “fifth columns.”"

How Russia props up Putin in the polls - The Washington Post

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The Russian Surgeon General reports that criticizing Putin can be harmful to your health. Sadly the list of dead Putin critics is already surprisingly long:

Boris Nemtsov
Anna Politkovskaya
Alexander Litvinenko
Sergei Magnitsky
Stanislav Markelov
Natalya Estemirova
Alexei Devotchenko
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Boris Nemtsov Joins List of Dead Vladimir Putin Critics - ABC News

Add to this the average Russians who were jailed....and worse for expressing a negative opinion of Putin and you have a Putin's rule in a nutshell. Russia has never known anything but repression at the hands of tzars and dictators. Russians will endure hardship because they have never know anything better.



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That should generate 10 - 100 's more people speaking up each time. Not the reverse.

 

[HenryBHough]

Did Hillary share her guy's phone number with Putin?

 

[Steinlight]

I

Yes he is at 86%. And this is a poll conducted by the liberal Levanda Center in Russia which is not a fan of Putin if you know anything about them. Nemestov has very little electoral support. So whatever you read Great Gatsby is misinformation.

Post your nonsense link.

Here is multiple links.
Putin 86 - Google Search

Nemestov's party has no seats in the duma. You can look that up on your own.

And Saddam was at 100 percent approval rating.

This is the problem with you liberals. I don't mean liberal in your Democrat party sense. I mean western liberalism in general. You pride yourself on supposed tolerance and diversity. Yet you are narrow minded and parochial and demand rigid conformity to the unipolar us liberal global system. You can't even comprehend that most of the world doesn't believe in your ideology. So since you lack perspective you demonize and delve into conspiracies like saying an liberal institution which opposes Putin is lying about survey numbers or intimidating people. The reality is that this intimidation and censorship is occurring in Ukraine. Those who voice opposition to the draft for the civil war are arrested. And recently Ukraine is expelling and arresting russian press there. But no word on that from you American hypocrites.

 

[Decus]

The Russian Surgeon General reports that criticizing Putin can be harmful to your health. Sadly the list of dead Putin critics is already surprisingly long:

Boris Nemtsov
Anna Politkovskaya
Alexander Litvinenko
Sergei Magnitsky
Stanislav Markelov
Natalya Estemirova
Alexei Devotchenko
........

Boris Nemtsov Joins List of Dead Vladimir Putin Critics - ABC News

Add to this the average Russians who were jailed....and worse for expressing a negative opinion of Putin and you have a Putin's rule in a nutshell. Russia has never known anything but repression at the hands of tzars and dictators. Russians will endure hardship because they have never know anything better.



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That should generate 10 - 100 's more people speaking up each time. Not the reverse.

The protests against Putin's hold on power that drew some 100,000 Russians to the streets a couple of years ago was largely driven by the small but growing middle class. Today that middle class is fleeing Russia, and the remaining Russians perhaps don't believe that change is possible:

"..well-educated professionals are emigrating from Russia in massive numbers. According to Rosstat, Russia’s federal statistics service, more than 300,000 people left the country from 2012 to 2013, a migration that tellingly coincides with Putin’s stage-managed return for a third presidential term; the rate of departures climbed even higher after the annexation of Crimea last year. By comparison, approximately 70,000 people left from 2010 to 2011. The cream of Russian society is voting with its feet, leaving a stultifying, ever more corrupt environment for greener pastures that allow them to productively apply their talents."

How Russia props up Putin in the polls - The Washington Post