Trump Approval Rating Plummeting at a Record Rate

More partisan bullshit.
We'll see in 2022 and 2024 who the voters prefer.

Yes we will. But don't get cocky. What was good money on Republicans making gains in 2022 is off the table. They've pissed every gain they made away in the last two months. I never underestimate the attention span of the American voter but this is different. The Democrat campaign commercials are just about writing themselves at this moment.

That vote to subvert the Constitution is going to follow those Congresscritters around like a new puppy,

The whole list of 'em.

Gotta wonder how many will even run. Or how many will even survive their term.
 
Not only did a dufus steal the election but the shithbird is corrupt as hell as we all know from his family foreign dealings but he is also a Left Wing Moon Bat that never got anything right in life, rapists and pedophile.

I wonder if the asshole is going to walk around the White House withot any clothes on and harass the female Secret Service agents like it was reported by Secret Service agents that he did when he was VP?

An embarrassment to this country.

The Useful Idiots were morons supporting that worthless piece of shit. Of course we all know that anybody that would vote for a Democrat nowadays ain't exactly the best and brightest, don't we?

Really? A POTUS harassing females? Wonder what THAT's like. :rolleyes-41:
 
More partisan bullshit.
We'll see in 2022 and 2024 who the voters prefer.

Yes we will. But don't get cocky. What was good money on Republicans making gains in 2022 is off the table. They've pissed every gain they made away in the last two months. I never underestimate the attention span of the American voter but this is different. The Democrat campaign commercials are just about writing themselves at this moment.

That vote to subvert the Constitution is going to follow those Congresscritters around like a new puppy,

The whole list of 'em.

Gotta wonder how many will even run. Or how many will even survive their term.
LOL!! You will see in 2022 how many of which party survives the mid-term
 
More partisan bullshit.
We'll see in 2022 and 2024 who the voters prefer.

Yes we will. But don't get cocky. What was good money on Republicans making gains in 2022 is off the table. They've pissed every gain they made away in the last two months. I never underestimate the attention span of the American voter but this is different. The Democrat campaign commercials are just about writing themselves at this moment.

That vote to subvert the Constitution is going to follow those Congresscritters around like a new puppy,

The whole list of 'em.

Gotta wonder how many will even run. Or how many will even survive their term.
LOL!! You will see in 2022 how many of which party survives the mid-term

We will indeed.
We do that every two years here Tovarich.
 

Tanking

That means even Republicans are running away from him

Be aware though. Nixon left office with more than a 50% approval among Republicans when he was run out of DC so don't expect all or even most Republicans to kick him to the curb...but...yea
 
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The damage caused by the rioters this week was enormous, however, it will pale in comparison to the damage from a new precedent of a snap impeachment for speech protected under the First Amendment. It is the very threat that the framers sought to avoid in crafting the impeachment standard. In a process of deliberative judgment, the reference to a snap impeachment is a contradiction. In this new system, guilt is not doubted and innocence is not deliberated. This would do to the Constitution what the violent rioters did to the Capitol and leave it in tatters

Why don't you link us to where the Framers laid out that it's OK for a POTUS to issue marching orders to storm the Capitol and kill people.

Any source at all. Constitution... D of I .... Federalist Papers ..... personal letters .... anything you got.
We'll watch. :popcorn:
Does the name George Washington ring a bell?
 
FiveThirtyEight.com, Jan. 15

>> In the wake of the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, public opinion is souring quickly on President Trump as he enters the final days of his term. Not only do a majority of Americans blame him for the riot at the Capitol and favor removing him from office, but his job approval rating has fallen faster in recent days than at any point in his presidency.​
According to FiveThirtyEight’s approval tracker,1 39.4 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing as president, while 56.3 percent disapprove (a net approval rating of -16.8 percentage points). On Jan. 6, the day of the Capitol attack, Trump’s net approval rating stood at -10.3 points, which means his net approval rating has fallen 6.5 points in just eight days. It turns out that’s the biggest drop in Trump’s net approval that our tracker has ever recorded.​
To put this into perspective, there have been only two other times when Trump’s net approval rating fell by at least 5 points over an eight-day period: once in February 2017, after he issued executive orders to begin construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and to suspend the refugee program and prohibit entry for visitors from seven predominantly Muslim countries,2 and then again in March 2017, after Republicans began their legislative efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.3
.... As Trump continues to falter, it’s worth noting just how atypical this trend is for a president in his last couple of months in office. Outgoing presidents often get at least a little bump in approval, regardless of whether they were popular or unpopular. For instance, President Barack Obama’s net approval rating rose from about +8 after the 2016 election to almost +20 when Trump took office, while President George W. Bush’s net approval rating rose from -43 in November 2008 to about -30 going into Obama’s inauguration in January 2009. Even President George H.W. Bush, the last incumbent president to lose reelection before Trump, saw his net approval go from -23 after the election to +18 by the time he left the White House. It’s hard to imagine such a huge shift in this more polarized era, but Trump’s net approval has definitely declined more than his predecessors’. <<​
FiveThirtyEight is a stat-freak site which aggregates and averages polls to find a mean, the Presidential-approval version of which can be seen on this page. Graphs compare the last dozen POTUSes day by day, approval and disapproval. Interestingly Rump is the one and only approval line, going all the way back to Truman, who has never touched 50%, appropriate for a candidate who couldn't touch 50% in the popular votes of Michigan Wisconsin or Pennsylvania (Florida, North Cackalackee, AridZona, friggin' Utah...) and certainly not the nation.

Rump's net approval stands right now at minus 17 and still dropping like a stock market that just heard about Coronavirus. I think Rump's going down to a record low, at least for him if not for all of history, befitting the single worst individual to ever hold the office.

Fake news because if you ask the opinion of the multiple socks of a few posters that voted for Trump on every message board you would know his approval rating is in the trillions...

Yes Pogo I know I am mocking the Trumpsters but what else do I have left to pass the time until I die from boredom?
 

Tanking

That means even Republicans are running away from him

Be aware though. Nixon left office with more than a 50% approval among Republicans when he was run out of DC so don't expect all or even most Republicans to kick him to the curb...but...yea

Big difference with Nixon. While he was shamed and disgraced, he spent the rest of his life trying to make up for it. We all know Trump won't do anything of the sort. Which is what will make it all the more sweet. :)
 
FiveThirtyEight.com, Jan. 15

>> In the wake of the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, public opinion is souring quickly on President Trump as he enters the final days of his term. Not only do a majority of Americans blame him for the riot at the Capitol and favor removing him from office, but his job approval rating has fallen faster in recent days than at any point in his presidency.​
According to FiveThirtyEight’s approval tracker,1 39.4 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing as president, while 56.3 percent disapprove (a net approval rating of -16.8 percentage points). On Jan. 6, the day of the Capitol attack, Trump’s net approval rating stood at -10.3 points, which means his net approval rating has fallen 6.5 points in just eight days. It turns out that’s the biggest drop in Trump’s net approval that our tracker has ever recorded.​
To put this into perspective, there have been only two other times when Trump’s net approval rating fell by at least 5 points over an eight-day period: once in February 2017, after he issued executive orders to begin construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and to suspend the refugee program and prohibit entry for visitors from seven predominantly Muslim countries,2 and then again in March 2017, after Republicans began their legislative efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.3
.... As Trump continues to falter, it’s worth noting just how atypical this trend is for a president in his last couple of months in office. Outgoing presidents often get at least a little bump in approval, regardless of whether they were popular or unpopular. For instance, President Barack Obama’s net approval rating rose from about +8 after the 2016 election to almost +20 when Trump took office, while President George W. Bush’s net approval rating rose from -43 in November 2008 to about -30 going into Obama’s inauguration in January 2009. Even President George H.W. Bush, the last incumbent president to lose reelection before Trump, saw his net approval go from -23 after the election to +18 by the time he left the White House. It’s hard to imagine such a huge shift in this more polarized era, but Trump’s net approval has definitely declined more than his predecessors’. <<​
FiveThirtyEight is a stat-freak site which aggregates and averages polls to find a mean, the Presidential-approval version of which can be seen on this page. Graphs compare the last dozen POTUSes day by day, approval and disapproval. Interestingly Rump is the one and only approval line, going all the way back to Truman, who has never touched 50%, appropriate for a candidate who couldn't touch 50% in the popular votes of Michigan Wisconsin or Pennsylvania (Florida, North Cackalackee, AridZona, friggin' Utah...) and certainly not the nation.

Rump's net approval stands right now at minus 17 and still dropping like a stock market that just heard about Coronavirus. I think Rump's going down to a record low, at least for him if not for all of history, befitting the single worst individual to ever hold the office.

Fake news because if you ask the opinion of the multiple socks of a few posters that voted for Trump on every message board you would know his approval rating is in the trillions...

Yes Pogo I know I am mocking the Trumpsters but what else do I have left to pass the time until I die from boredom?
Trump would still get at least 74,000,000 votes if the election were held today.
 
80 million Americans love Trump for being the best President this country ever had.

He would be our President now if it wasn't for the filthy Democrats stealing the election with the scam of unverified mail in ballots in the Democrat controlled swing districts.

China Joe is an embarrassment to this country.

The US is laughing stock of the world now with our blatant stolen election and dufus President Elect.
Republicans are coming around and admitting that election fraud was lie. Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma today admitted it was all a Lie and apologized.

Truly anyone with a functioning brain knows that election fraud is and was a scam to overturn an election. A scam no different that Trump’s charitable foundation and Trump University.

Brainwashed Trumpers like yourself will never admit the truth. You don‘t want to admit it.



It doesn't matter if they admit the truth.

The stupid people who love and live on trump and his lies don't matter.

What they want doesn't matter. What they say doesn't matter.

People who lie, incite riots, slander, defame, cause death and all that trump and his followers have done these past years, JUST DON'T MATTER.

No amount of honest and true concrete facts will be accepted by them so it's a total waste of time to keep presenting those honest concrete facts to them.

People who reject and even fight to not accept honest and true facts should be ignored. They don't matter.

Let them believe what they want. No one is going to convince them of the truth so why waste your time with such stupid and lazy people?

If they commit crimes or are violent, they will end up in prison.

It's as simple as that.
 
80 million Americans love Trump for being the best President this country ever had.

He would be our President now if it wasn't for the filthy Democrats stealing the election with the scam of unverified mail in ballots in the Democrat controlled swing districts.

China Joe is an embarrassment to this country.

The US is laughing stock of the world now with our blatant stolen election and dufus President Elect.
Republicans are coming around and admitting that election fraud was lie. Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma today admitted it was all a Lie and apologized.

Truly anyone with a functioning brain knows that election fraud is and was a scam to overturn an election. A scam no different that Trump’s charitable foundation and Trump University.

Brainwashed Trumpers like yourself will never admit the truth. You don‘t want to admit it.
The Republican party has become Burger King. The home of the whopper. Not just lies, whoppers. Its sad really.
You mean both parties and the News Entertainment Media? OK.
Propaganda in both but the repugs right now sell ludicrous shit. Qanon shit is so outrageous its ridiculous.
Not any more ridiculous than calling Trump a Russian agent and calling those who voted for him seditionists. Maybe extremists on both sides should STFU?
Those whk propagate the lies that the election was stolen are seditionist. Period.
Nope. They are just giving an opinion. You are deranged.
An opinion aimed at causing insurrection and it did cause insurrection. It went through over 50 courts and nothing was found that would have remotely changed the election results and here is the kicker. In all states contested republican were the ones in power at the state level. This was a grab to ignore the will of the people and remain in power and has for the foreseeable future hurt the integrity of the process. Nothing has happened since the 1860s that has damaged and weakened this country more. Further our enemies could not have picked a better candidate to weaken us. Trump had us on the verge of civil war. China and Russia could not be more pleased. It does not end their Trump constantly and consistently attacked our allies and NATO which was created to keep Russia in check. He blocked sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine. While attacking and weakening nato. Again Russia could not be more pleased. The facts on the ground are there for all to see but are ignored.
 
He's done. Politically, legally, financially. His name is shit. He once had a shot to build a media empire. Now, outside of his willing sheep, there will be no one to give him money or a platform. Like the response to the virus, I can't see another way that Trump could have fucked things up worse than he did.
Trump is still Trump. The single-most powerful and controversial person in America today, ... and tomorrow.

No one cares about Biden or his skank. That's just the way it is.
 
80 million Americans love Trump for being the best President this country ever had.

He would be our President now if it wasn't for the filthy Democrats stealing the election with the scam of unverified mail in ballots in the Democrat controlled swing districts.

China Joe is an embarrassment to this country.

The US is laughing stock of the world now with our blatant stolen election and dufus President Elect.
Republicans are coming around and admitting that election fraud was lie. Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma today admitted it was all a Lie and apologized.

Truly anyone with a functioning brain knows that election fraud is and was a scam to overturn an election. A scam no different that Trump’s charitable foundation and Trump University.

Brainwashed Trumpers like yourself will never admit the truth. You don‘t want to admit it.



It doesn't matter if they admit the truth.

The stupid people who love and live on trump and his lies don't matter.

What they want doesn't matter. What they say doesn't matter.

People who lie, incite riots, slander, defame, cause death and all that trump and his followers have done these past years, JUST DON'T MATTER.

No amount of honest and true concrete facts will be accepted by them so it's a total waste of time to keep presenting those honest concrete facts to them.

People who reject and even fight to not accept honest and true facts should be ignored. They don't matter.

Let them believe what they want. No one is going to convince them of the truth so why waste your time with such stupid and lazy people?

If they commit crimes or are violent, they will end up in prison.

It's as simple as that.
Relax, Biden is sending you a welfare check.
 
More partisan bullshit.
We'll see in 2022 and 2024 who the voters prefer.
No we will not because the Dems are gonna steal the election , again!
Hope not. States should follow the FL example how to run a clean and efficient election.
Voting is done on election day, and results known election evening, no "finding" votes allowed.

For the abjectly and wilfully ignorant, that's because Florida does not have mindless laws that say it's illegal to open and count mail-in votes before Election Day, as, say, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin do. So come Election Day Florida already knew what 90% of its mail-in vote was. While Pennsylvania knew, literally, 0%.

I can't believe any of you delusionists are STILL willing to put your name next to idiocy this fucking stupid.
It completely changes how I perceive usmb republicans. If they really believe this years election was rigged, how can I take them seriously on any other issue. It’s the litmus test for republicans.

But it's not Republicans, it's the self-delusional cultists. Irrespective of political parties.
I voted for Slick in 96, but that's about it, and I gotta say the gop has been on its knees blowing Trump for four years. The only politician who stood up to him and kept his job is Mitt Romney, and Utah is unique in that Mormons don't really follow the gop line. (Mike Lee primarying Bennett was not a high point though)

Rump couldn't even pull 45% (let alone 50) in Utah when he slithered into office. Rumpologists will quickly crow that that's because Utahan Evan McMullen was on the ballot, which he was, but that's even worse as it shows that Utahans would rather toss a vote to a 3P candidate they knew had no shot, than hold their nose tightly enough to vote for Rump.

--- which is again another argument for abolishing the Electoral College, since Rump got 100% of Utah's EVs while unable to get 45% of its vote.

When you can't win frickin' UTAH with an R after your name ---------- that's WEAK.
GOP pols are still terrified of defying Trump. He called for an insurrection, lost GA and AZ and an election by 7 million votes, and today they are trying to kick out Cheney and Cindy McCain. I'm fairly confident that by 2024, the gop will have changed from the Trumpista Party, but that doesn't give me great comfort.

Why is it that the gop, and not the dems, was taken over by a conman with at least as much interest in his personal wealth as the nation? Didn't anyone notice that German and Asian automakers build more cars here than they sell. Trump started a trade war with Germany before China. But he was still friendly with Japan. Does anyone really think that wasn't because of who stroked his ego and who didn't, and not about American interests?

Bernie probably would have won the nomination in 16 rather the Hillary unless Bill Clinton had earned the trust of the black primary vote in the South. So Trump's 2016 nomination win was part of a nationwide refutation of parties. At least by white voters.

But the dem party was big enough for policy differences between Bernie and Hillary. Maybe someone noticed some difference in the non-Trump candidates in 16 …. Carley, Little Marco, Jeb …. I guess Cruz might have been different in that everyone agrees he's as much an asshole at Trump …. and he's married to a Wall Street Lawyer, so maybe he's no different at all in substance. The reason Trump was nominated is because the GOP"s one remaining principle is to win an election with 47% of 100% of votes. The party has now proven it will do ANYTHING, even accept an Insurrection and attack on our own capital, to achieve that end.

imo it's past time for the EC to go. And no one needs to cry about "small states" when the gop has choke holds of Fla and Tx. The whole "the founders were afraid of big states" always has been bs. They were afraid of sectionalism or regionalism, and it so happened that NY plus NE were by far the biggest sections, and they supported a national govt over state govts would have dominated the young nation. But Virginia was hardly a small state. It was the largest, and NC was #3 … but that is counting slaves.

 
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FiveThirtyEight.com, Jan. 15

>> In the wake of the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, public opinion is souring quickly on President Trump as he enters the final days of his term. Not only do a majority of Americans blame him for the riot at the Capitol and favor removing him from office, but his job approval rating has fallen faster in recent days than at any point in his presidency.​
According to FiveThirtyEight’s approval tracker,1 39.4 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing as president, while 56.3 percent disapprove (a net approval rating of -16.8 percentage points). On Jan. 6, the day of the Capitol attack, Trump’s net approval rating stood at -10.3 points, which means his net approval rating has fallen 6.5 points in just eight days. It turns out that’s the biggest drop in Trump’s net approval that our tracker has ever recorded.​
To put this into perspective, there have been only two other times when Trump’s net approval rating fell by at least 5 points over an eight-day period: once in February 2017, after he issued executive orders to begin construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and to suspend the refugee program and prohibit entry for visitors from seven predominantly Muslim countries,2 and then again in March 2017, after Republicans began their legislative efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.3
.... As Trump continues to falter, it’s worth noting just how atypical this trend is for a president in his last couple of months in office. Outgoing presidents often get at least a little bump in approval, regardless of whether they were popular or unpopular. For instance, President Barack Obama’s net approval rating rose from about +8 after the 2016 election to almost +20 when Trump took office, while President George W. Bush’s net approval rating rose from -43 in November 2008 to about -30 going into Obama’s inauguration in January 2009. Even President George H.W. Bush, the last incumbent president to lose reelection before Trump, saw his net approval go from -23 after the election to +18 by the time he left the White House. It’s hard to imagine such a huge shift in this more polarized era, but Trump’s net approval has definitely declined more than his predecessors’. <<​
FiveThirtyEight is a stat-freak site which aggregates and averages polls to find a mean, the Presidential-approval version of which can be seen on this page. Graphs compare the last dozen POTUSes day by day, approval and disapproval. Interestingly Rump is the one and only approval line, going all the way back to Truman, who has never touched 50%, appropriate for a candidate who couldn't touch 50% in the popular votes of Michigan Wisconsin or Pennsylvania (Florida, North Cackalackee, AridZona, friggin' Utah...) and certainly not the nation.

Rump's net approval stands right now at minus 17 and still dropping like a stock market that just heard about Coronavirus. I think Rump's going down to a record low, at least for him if not for all of history, befitting the single worst individual to ever hold the office.

Fake news because if you ask the opinion of the multiple socks of a few posters that voted for Trump on every message board you would know his approval rating is in the trillions...

Yes Pogo I know I am mocking the Trumpsters but what else do I have left to pass the time until I die from boredom?
Trump would still get at least 74,000,000 votes if the election were held today.

Considering his net disapproval has TRIPLED since that day, doooooooooooooooooooooon't think so.
 
80 million Americans love Trump for being the best President this country ever had.

He would be our President now if it wasn't for the filthy Democrats stealing the election with the scam of unverified mail in ballots in the Democrat controlled swing districts.

China Joe is an embarrassment to this country.

The US is laughing stock of the world now with our blatant stolen election and dufus President Elect.
Republicans are coming around and admitting that election fraud was lie. Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma today admitted it was all a Lie and apologized.

Truly anyone with a functioning brain knows that election fraud is and was a scam to overturn an election. A scam no different that Trump’s charitable foundation and Trump University.

Brainwashed Trumpers like yourself will never admit the truth. You don‘t want to admit it.
The Republican party has become Burger King. The home of the whopper. Not just lies, whoppers. Its sad really.
You mean both parties and the News Entertainment Media? OK.
Propaganda in both but the repugs right now sell ludicrous shit. Qanon shit is so outrageous its ridiculous.
Not any more ridiculous than calling Trump a Russian agent and calling those who voted for him seditionists. Maybe extremists on both sides should STFU?
Those whk propagate the lies that the election was stolen are seditionist. Period.
Nope. They are just giving an opinion. You are deranged.
An opinion aimed at causing insurrection and it did cause insurrection. It went through over 50 courts and nothing was found that would have remotely changed the election results and here is the kicker. In all states contested republican were the ones in power at the state level. This was a grab to ignore the will of the people and remain in power and has for the foreseeable future hurt the integrity of the process. Nothing has happened since the 1860s that has damaged and weakened this country more. Further our enemies could not have picked a better candidate to weaken us. Trump had us on the verge of civil war. China and Russia could not be more pleased. It does not end their Trump constantly and consistently attacked our allies and NATO which was created to keep Russia in check. He blocked sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine. While attacking and weakening nato. Again Russia could not be more pleased. The facts on the ground are there for all to see but are ignored.
I disagree. A tiny minority is complaining and the media reports on that. 99.9% of the people in the GOP and Independents accept it. Maybe the News Entertainment video should illustrate that? And optics are just bad with so many mail in votes favoring the Donkeys. No proof they are fake or whatever but the optics remain bad.
 
FiveThirtyEight.com, Jan. 15

>> In the wake of the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, public opinion is souring quickly on President Trump as he enters the final days of his term. Not only do a majority of Americans blame him for the riot at the Capitol and favor removing him from office, but his job approval rating has fallen faster in recent days than at any point in his presidency.​
According to FiveThirtyEight’s approval tracker,1 39.4 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing as president, while 56.3 percent disapprove (a net approval rating of -16.8 percentage points). On Jan. 6, the day of the Capitol attack, Trump’s net approval rating stood at -10.3 points, which means his net approval rating has fallen 6.5 points in just eight days. It turns out that’s the biggest drop in Trump’s net approval that our tracker has ever recorded.​
To put this into perspective, there have been only two other times when Trump’s net approval rating fell by at least 5 points over an eight-day period: once in February 2017, after he issued executive orders to begin construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and to suspend the refugee program and prohibit entry for visitors from seven predominantly Muslim countries,2 and then again in March 2017, after Republicans began their legislative efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.3
.... As Trump continues to falter, it’s worth noting just how atypical this trend is for a president in his last couple of months in office. Outgoing presidents often get at least a little bump in approval, regardless of whether they were popular or unpopular. For instance, President Barack Obama’s net approval rating rose from about +8 after the 2016 election to almost +20 when Trump took office, while President George W. Bush’s net approval rating rose from -43 in November 2008 to about -30 going into Obama’s inauguration in January 2009. Even President George H.W. Bush, the last incumbent president to lose reelection before Trump, saw his net approval go from -23 after the election to +18 by the time he left the White House. It’s hard to imagine such a huge shift in this more polarized era, but Trump’s net approval has definitely declined more than his predecessors’. <<​
FiveThirtyEight is a stat-freak site which aggregates and averages polls to find a mean, the Presidential-approval version of which can be seen on this page. Graphs compare the last dozen POTUSes day by day, approval and disapproval. Interestingly Rump is the one and only approval line, going all the way back to Truman, who has never touched 50%, appropriate for a candidate who couldn't touch 50% in the popular votes of Michigan Wisconsin or Pennsylvania (Florida, North Cackalackee, AridZona, friggin' Utah...) and certainly not the nation.

Rump's net approval stands right now at minus 17 and still dropping like a stock market that just heard about Coronavirus. I think Rump's going down to a record low, at least for him if not for all of history, befitting the single worst individual to ever hold the office.

Fake news because if you ask the opinion of the multiple socks of a few posters that voted for Trump on every message board you would know his approval rating is in the trillions...

Yes Pogo I know I am mocking the Trumpsters but what else do I have left to pass the time until I die from boredom?
Trump would still get at least 74,000,000 votes if the election were held today.

Considering his net disapproval has TRIPLED since that day, doooooooooooooooooooooon't think so.
By whose standards?
Millions of Trump supporters have dumped Twitter and YouTube.
You can live in your little crowd but some of us actually know people and read sites other than CNN.
 
80 million Americans love Trump for being the best President this country ever had.

He would be our President now if it wasn't for the filthy Democrats stealing the election with the scam of unverified mail in ballots in the Democrat controlled swing districts.

China Joe is an embarrassment to this country.

The US is laughing stock of the world now with our blatant stolen election and dufus President Elect.
You guys have it bad. :auiqs.jpg:
 
More partisan bullshit.
We'll see in 2022 and 2024 who the voters prefer.
No we will not because the Dems are gonna steal the election , again!
Hope not. States should follow the FL example how to run a clean and efficient election.
Voting is done on election day, and results known election evening, no "finding" votes allowed.

For the abjectly and wilfully ignorant, that's because Florida does not have mindless laws that say it's illegal to open and count mail-in votes before Election Day, as, say, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin do. So come Election Day Florida already knew what 90% of its mail-in vote was. While Pennsylvania knew, literally, 0%.

I can't believe any of you delusionists are STILL willing to put your name next to idiocy this fucking stupid.
It completely changes how I perceive usmb republicans. If they really believe this years election was rigged, how can I take them seriously on any other issue. It’s the litmus test for republicans.

But it's not Republicans, it's the self-delusional cultists. Irrespective of political parties.
I voted for Slick in 96, but that's about it, and I gotta say the gop has been on its knees blowing Trump for four years. The only politician who stood up to him and kept his job is Mitt Romney, and Utah is unique in that Mormons don't really follow the gop line. (Mike Lee primarying Bennett was not a high point though)

Rump couldn't even pull 45% (let alone 50) in Utah when he slithered into office. Rumpologists will quickly crow that that's because Utahan Evan McMullen was on the ballot, which he was, but that's even worse as it shows that Utahans would rather toss a vote to a 3P candidate they knew had no shot, than hold their nose tightly enough to vote for Rump.

--- which is again another argument for abolishing the Electoral College, since Rump got 100% of Utah's EVs while unable to get 45% of its vote.

When you can't win frickin' UTAH with an R after your name ---------- that's WEAK.
GOP pols are still terrified of defying Trump. He called for an insurrection, lost GA and AZ and an election by 7 million votes, and today they are trying to kick out Cheney and Cindy McCain. I'm fairly confident that by 2024, the gop will have changed from the Trumpista Party, but that doesn't give me great comfort.

Why is it that the gop, and not the dems, was taken over by a conman with at least as much interest in his personal wealth as the nation? Didn't anyone notice that German and Asian automakers build more cars here than they sell. Trump started a trade war with Germany before China. But he was still friendly with Japan. Does anyone really think that wasn't because of who stroked his ego and who didn't, and not about American interests?

Bernie probably would have won the nomination in 16 rather the Hillary unless Bill Clinton had earned the trust of the black primary vote in the South. So Trump's 2016 nomination win was part of a nationwide refutation of parties.

But the dem party was big enough for policy differences between Bernie and Hillary. Maybe someone noticed some difference in the non-Trump candidates in 16 …. Carley, Little Marco, Jeb …. I guess Cruz might have been different in that everyone agrees he's as much an asshole at Trump …. and he's married to a Wall Street Lawyer, so maybe he's no different at all in substance. The reason Trump was nominated is because the GOP"s one remaining principle is to win an election with 47% of 100% of votes. The party has now proven it will do ANYTHING, even accept an Insurrection and attack on our own capital, to achieve that end.

imo it's past time for the EC to go. And no one needs to cry about "small states" when the gop has choke holds of Fla and Tx. The whole "the founders were afraid of big states" always has been bs. They were afraid of sectionalism or regionalism, and it so happened that NY was by far the biggest, and the NE which supported a national govt over state govts would have dominated the young nation. But Virginia was hardly a small state. It was the largest, and NC was #3 … but that is counting slaves.


This seems like more a post for the Electoral College thread but what the ECpologists always forget in crowing about "protecting small states against the big cities" is that there were no big cities then --- most Americans lived on farms and frontiers. Actually the EC was all about giving Slavery a pass in exchange for having a country, which, hey what could possibly go wrong with that....

As for Rump and his relevance in Republican futures, it's hard to imagine how they could resist an element who lost them the House, lost them the Senate, lost them the popular vote twice and got himself impeached twice. But they asked for it, didn't they.
 

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