Ron Paul Winning Converts

[Kevin_Kennedy]

From time to time, a few members of Congress—as many as 10, sometimes fewer—gather with Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) to eat lunch and hear from an author or expert whose opinion he thinks is worth promoting. They grab something to eat off of a deli plate. They take notes. They loosen up and ask questions.

“It’s not all that easy for the other members to get here,” Paul said in an interview with TWI, sitting just outside of his office before heading back to Texas for a few days. “It’s just that there’s so much competition. Once they get here and they get going, they all seem to enjoy it.”

The Washington Independent » Ron Paul’s Economic Theories Winning GOP Converts

 

[Iriemon]

From time to time, a few members of Congress—as many as 10, sometimes fewer—gather with Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) to eat lunch and hear from an author or expert whose opinion he thinks is worth promoting. They grab something to eat off of a deli plate. They take notes. They loosen up and ask questions.

“It’s not all that easy for the other members to get here,” Paul said in an interview with TWI, sitting just outside of his office before heading back to Texas for a few days. “It’s just that there’s so much competition. Once they get here and they get going, they all seem to enjoy it.”

The Washington Independent » Ron Paul’s Economic Theories Winning GOP Converts

Adopt a plank to go on the gold standard.

That's a sure winner for the GOP in '12.

 

[Paulie]

From time to time, a few members of Congress—as many as 10, sometimes fewer—gather with Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) to eat lunch and hear from an author or expert whose opinion he thinks is worth promoting. They grab something to eat off of a deli plate. They take notes. They loosen up and ask questions.

“It’s not all that easy for the other members to get here,” Paul said in an interview with TWI, sitting just outside of his office before heading back to Texas for a few days. “It’s just that there’s so much competition. Once they get here and they get going, they all seem to enjoy it.”

The Washington Independent » Ron Paul’s Economic Theories Winning GOP Converts

Adopt a plank to go on the gold standard.

That's a sure winner for the GOP in '12.

Nice attempt to derail another Ron Paul thread. I guess you didn't exhaust yourself in that last one, huh?

As far as the gold standard issue for 2012, what makes you think there's enough voters in this country that even understand monetary policy enough to have an opinion either way? Most of you only care to see celeb status, and beyond that nothing more is really even that important.

 

[Iriemon]

The Washington Independent » Ron Paul’s Economic Theories Winning GOP Converts

Adopt a plank to go on the gold standard.

That's a sure winner for the GOP in '12.

Nice attempt to derail another Ron Paul thread. I guess you didn't exhaust yourself in that last one, huh?

As far as the gold standard issue for 2012, what makes you think there's enough voters in this country that even understand monetary policy enough to have an opinion either way? Most of you only care to see celeb status, and beyond that nothing more is really even that important.

Isn't eliminating the Fed and return to the gold standard a biggie with Paul?

 

[Paulie]

Adopt a plank to go on the gold standard.

That's a sure winner for the GOP in '12.

Nice attempt to derail another Ron Paul thread. I guess you didn't exhaust yourself in that last one, huh?

As far as the gold standard issue for 2012, what makes you think there's enough voters in this country that even understand monetary policy enough to have an opinion either way? Most of you only care to see celeb status, and beyond that nothing more is really even that important.

Isn't eliminating the Fed and return to the gold standard a biggie with Paul?

Sure, but your insinuation that the gold standard platform would somehow hurt the GOP's chances in '12 was kind of ridiculous since the amount of people who actually understand monetary policy is not nearly enough to sway a national vote.

Like I said, all that really matters to the electorate at large is who's wearing what designer, and what kind of dog they'll be getting.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

From time to time, a few members of Congress—as many as 10, sometimes fewer—gather with Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) to eat lunch and hear from an author or expert whose opinion he thinks is worth promoting. They grab something to eat off of a deli plate. They take notes. They loosen up and ask questions.

“It’s not all that easy for the other members to get here,” Paul said in an interview with TWI, sitting just outside of his office before heading back to Texas for a few days. “It’s just that there’s so much competition. Once they get here and they get going, they all seem to enjoy it.”

The Washington Independent » Ron Paul’s Economic Theories Winning GOP Converts

Adopt a plank to go on the gold standard.

That's a sure winner for the GOP in '12.

Sounds good to me.

 

[Paulie]

Something crazy and fresh like the gold standard is exactly what the GOP needs, frankly. What better way to curb liberal spending than to take away the main ability to spend infinitely?

Not that the pussies in charge would ever consider it though, among all OTHER things they could consider for some bold fresh ideas. This, incidentally, is why they will probably remain the minority. Not to mention, the GOP is controlled by liberals.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Something crazy and fresh like the gold standard is exactly what the GOP needs, frankly. What better way to curb liberal spending than to take away the main ability to spend infinitely?

Not that the pussies in charge would ever consider it though, among all OTHER things they could consider for some bold fresh ideas. This, incidentally, is why they will probably remain the minority. Not to mention, the GOP is controlled by liberals.

It's definitely something that could revitalize the Republican Party, but it would also curb conservative spending so it's not likely to gain any ground among the neo-cons.

Also, Ron Paul is going to be on Rachel Maddow's show tonight at 9 p.m. eastern to discuss this article I believe.

 

[Paulie]

Something crazy and fresh like the gold standard is exactly what the GOP needs, frankly. What better way to curb liberal spending than to take away the main ability to spend infinitely?

Not that the pussies in charge would ever consider it though, among all OTHER things they could consider for some bold fresh ideas. This, incidentally, is why they will probably remain the minority. Not to mention, the GOP is controlled by liberals.

It's definitely something that could revitalize the Republican Party, but it would also curb conservative spending so it's not likely to gain any ground among the neo-cons.

Let's be real here, conservative spending these days is liberal spending. The neo-cons are about as conservative as Rachel Maddow.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Something crazy and fresh like the gold standard is exactly what the GOP needs, frankly. What better way to curb liberal spending than to take away the main ability to spend infinitely?

Not that the pussies in charge would ever consider it though, among all OTHER things they could consider for some bold fresh ideas. This, incidentally, is why they will probably remain the minority. Not to mention, the GOP is controlled by liberals.

It's definitely something that could revitalize the Republican Party, but it would also curb conservative spending so it's not likely to gain any ground among the neo-cons.

Let's be real here, conservative spending these days is liberal spending. The neo-cons are about as conservative as Rachel Maddow.

Absolutely, the GOP has been taken over by big government neo-cons. No doubt about it.

 

[Paulie]

That's strange Kevin, I used Maddow, of all liberals available, as an example, while you were editing to add that Paul would be on her show. Pretty weird.

 

[Iriemon]

Something crazy and fresh like the gold standard is exactly what the GOP needs, frankly. What better way to curb liberal spending than to take away the main ability to spend infinitely?

Not that the pussies in charge would ever consider it though, among all OTHER things they could consider for some bold fresh ideas. This, incidentally, is why they will probably remain the minority. Not to mention, the GOP is controlled by liberals.

The more fundamental problem you have is that that nation is dominated by liberals.

Run a candidate who proposes to ditch social net programs and see what happens.

 

[Paulie]

Something crazy and fresh like the gold standard is exactly what the GOP needs, frankly. What better way to curb liberal spending than to take away the main ability to spend infinitely?

Not that the pussies in charge would ever consider it though, among all OTHER things they could consider for some bold fresh ideas. This, incidentally, is why they will probably remain the minority. Not to mention, the GOP is controlled by liberals.

The more fundamental problem you have is that that nation is dominated by liberals.

Run a candidate who proposes to ditch social net programs and see what happens.

Social net programs are not even close to the first things I'd axe, whether you believe that or not. I'm not about watching people starve, Iriemon. With the right incentives, I believe people would CHOOSE not to accept handouts over time, but there are WAY too many things that are economically and politically wrong with this country for something like that to be possible yet.

You may think you have me all figured out simply becuase I proclaim fiscal conservatism, but you've been wrong a few times already. Perhaps not judging a book by its cover would be good practice for you.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Here's an interesting article attacking Ron Paul, Michele Bachmann, and Libertarianism.

Gawker - Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann Are BFFs - ron paul

My favorite quote from the article:

Which explains why Michele asked Tim Geithner that insane question about where exactly in the Constitution it says the Federal Reserve is allowed to exist.

Yes, following the Constitution is absolutely insane!

 

[Seraega]

Something crazy and fresh like the gold standard is exactly what the GOP needs, frankly. What better way to curb liberal spending than to take away the main ability to spend infinitely?

Not that the pussies in charge would ever consider it though, among all OTHER things they could consider for some bold fresh ideas. This, incidentally, is why they will probably remain the minority. Not to mention, the GOP is controlled by liberals.

The more fundamental problem you have is that that nation is dominated by liberals.

Run a candidate who proposes to ditch social net programs and see what happens.

I don't think this is necessarily true. Many of Dr. Paul's biggest supporters were in the 18-35 crowd, which is exactly where a forward thinking party should be directing their campaign efforts. Sooner or later the AARP crowd is going to die off and what matters is who wins the fight for the next generation. I think the liberals have clearly won Round 1 with Obama, but it remains to be seen who is going to win the war. Unless Obama is successful in getting us addicted to massive social programs and turning us into Europe I think the Dems are going to be in trouble. A patchwork system is going to infuriate the detractors and supporters alike. He's getting a lot of this criticism now. The right views him as a socialist, and the real socialists are shaking their head because they know he's not.

 

[code1211]

Nice attempt to derail another Ron Paul thread. I guess you didn't exhaust yourself in that last one, huh?

As far as the gold standard issue for 2012, what makes you think there's enough voters in this country that even understand monetary policy enough to have an opinion either way? Most of you only care to see celeb status, and beyond that nothing more is really even that important.

Isn't eliminating the Fed and return to the gold standard a biggie with Paul?

Sure, but your insinuation that the gold standard platform would somehow hurt the GOP's chances in '12 was kind of ridiculous since the amount of people who actually understand monetary policy is not nearly enough to sway a national vote.

Like I said, all that really matters to the electorate at large is who's wearing what designer, and what kind of dog they'll be getting.

Is there enough gold in the world to support the amount of money needed to run the economy?

 

[Iriemon]

Something crazy and fresh like the gold standard is exactly what the GOP needs, frankly. What better way to curb liberal spending than to take away the main ability to spend infinitely?

Not that the pussies in charge would ever consider it though, among all OTHER things they could consider for some bold fresh ideas. This, incidentally, is why they will probably remain the minority. Not to mention, the GOP is controlled by liberals.

The more fundamental problem you have is that that nation is dominated by liberals.

Run a candidate who proposes to ditch social net programs and see what happens.

Social net programs are not even close to the first things I'd axe, whether you believe that or not. I'm not about watching people starve, Iriemon. With the right incentives, I believe people would CHOOSE not to accept handouts over time, but there are WAY too many things that are economically and politically wrong with this country for something like that to be possible yet.

You may think you have me all figured out simply becuase I proclaim fiscal conservatism, but you've been wrong a few times already. Perhaps not judging a book by its cover would be good practice for you.

Sorry Paulie I get folks confused. I think we discussed it before and we were not that far off.

But my comment wasn't to personalize to you; but those that support major cuts in the Govt. I don't think you'd get much support for that.

Bush and Reagan didn't win because they pushed spending cuts, those they each gave it some lip service. Rather, they promoted the "supply side" theory that they could cut taxes and still spend because revenues would go up. IMO had either run with the promise they were going to gut govt they would not have been elected.

The supply side argument isn't going to fly now. We've tried it twice and we are $11 trillion in debt. Conservatives recognize this; that's why you hear all the yapping about cutting spending. But while folks like that in concept, they balk when it comes to *their* spending. Take a poll of how many conservative support cutting defense a couple hundreds billion and see.

I don't think a candidate selling that message in any major way is going to get traction.

 

[Iriemon]

Isn't eliminating the Fed and return to the gold standard a biggie with Paul?

Sure, but your insinuation that the gold standard platform would somehow hurt the GOP's chances in '12 was kind of ridiculous since the amount of people who actually understand monetary policy is not nearly enough to sway a national vote.

Like I said, all that really matters to the electorate at large is who's wearing what designer, and what kind of dog they'll be getting.

Is there enough gold in the world to support the amount of money needed to run the economy?

Sure. Gold is a medium of exchange, just like dollars. Nothing is instrinsically worth x amount of gold, except maybe jewelry.

The problem with gold is that you cannot inflate it to match population and economic growth, or times when the supply falls because of hording, like we are experiencing now.

 

[Iriemon]

Something crazy and fresh like the gold standard is exactly what the GOP needs, frankly. What better way to curb liberal spending than to take away the main ability to spend infinitely?

Not that the pussies in charge would ever consider it though, among all OTHER things they could consider for some bold fresh ideas. This, incidentally, is why they will probably remain the minority. Not to mention, the GOP is controlled by liberals.

The more fundamental problem you have is that that nation is dominated by liberals.

Run a candidate who proposes to ditch social net programs and see what happens.

I don't think this is necessarily true. Many of Dr. Paul's biggest supporters were in the 18-35 crowd, which is exactly where a forward thinking party should be directing their campaign efforts. Sooner or later the AARP crowd is going to die off and what matters is who wins the fight for the next generation. I think the liberals have clearly won Round 1 with Obama, but it remains to be seen who is going to win the war. Unless Obama is successful in getting us addicted to massive social programs and turning us into Europe I think the Dems are going to be in trouble. A patchwork system is going to infuriate the detractors and supporters alike. He's getting a lot of this criticism now. The right views him as a socialist, and the real socialists are shaking their head because they know he's not.

If you think the "me generation" the "pass the buck generation" aka the boomers are going to voluntarily vote down their retirement and health care benefits ... well that's a bet I'd take and give you good odds. The AARP crowd is going to be growing, not shrinking.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Isn't eliminating the Fed and return to the gold standard a biggie with Paul?

Sure, but your insinuation that the gold standard platform would somehow hurt the GOP's chances in '12 was kind of ridiculous since the amount of people who actually understand monetary policy is not nearly enough to sway a national vote.

Like I said, all that really matters to the electorate at large is who's wearing what designer, and what kind of dog they'll be getting.

Is there enough gold in the world to support the amount of money needed to run the economy?

The amount of money in circulation doesn't matter because the value of that money will change.