Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

No one wants to interfere with anyone's live's as long as they are not being immoral, evil, reckless, lawbreaking or anything that undermines a CIVILIZED SOCIETY. That's the dilemma you on the left are faced with, otherwise you want the freedom to undermine CIVILIZED SOCIETY by engaging in uncivilized activities, and civilized society rejects that want that you have to include them in it.

It's founded on promoting a CIVILIZED SOCIETY. Christian values are a plus, and they are a necessity in creating a civilized society.

This is why we create laws and rules in a CIVILIZED SOCIETY,

To remove your unborn baby by violent means is as uncivilized an act as most civilized human beings have ever heard of, but somehow leftist were able to convince women that it was an ok thing to do, and that they shouldn't let anyone tell them otherwise. The grooming of SOCIETY over the year's has led to a lot of uncivilized activities.. It's really a sin and a shame what has taken place over the year's.

We must return to promoting a healthy civilized society before we lose this nation completely, and lose it to uncivilized anarchy and chaos being promoted as if it is somehow normal these days.

You keep dodging or ignoring my position on promoting a CIVILIZED SOCIETY with laws and rules in which are a vital part of having and running a civilized society..

Because it takes away your cherry picking of science, and the ways in which you attempt to use it in order to justify living in a uncivilized SOCIETY where people can do anything they want no matter what the fall out or consequences are

Civilized society or uncivilized SOCIETY, which do you prefer ?

and you can call this living in a CIVILIZED SOCIETY (?)

You calling a person (a religious fanatic), for promoting life, and then for promoting civilized society that promotes responsible action's by the citizen's who are creating life upon God giving them the tools in order to do so is simply hilarious

Why is it that you won't answer my questions about civilized verses uncivilized ?

you promoting an uncivilized SOCIETY, otherwise where ethic's and rules are non-exsistent. It's because your stances on these issue's definitely promote an uncivilized SOCIETY instead of a civilized one.

Pffft... Women thinking that they can be irresponsible in their choice's, and then go in search of a butcher to fix their stupidity is as uncivilized as it gets.

Time to rejoin civilized society, and begin to act like human beings instead of animals again.

Look, if you would just understand that people in a CIVILIZED SOCIETY live by law's and rule's, otherwise things that have been broken badly in what once stood as a CIVILIZED SOCIETY not so long ago.

So if you would want the law's and rule's to be re-enforced instead of destroyed or confused even further, then you would allow for the rule's to be rewritten in support of, and then enforced in order to promote a more CIVILIZED SOCIETY that promotes life, embraces life, and love's life when it is found to be growing within the female's body after fertilization is complete.

Making it easy to disreguard life (so easily), has led this NATION off of a cliff where it is barely hanging on.

Need to replant it into the minds of young women that "consequences" are great for one's careless action's, otherwise they shouldn't want a lifetime of regret over their careless action's, and also it isn't worth following trend's and a death loving culture down into the pitts of hell when all is said and done.

Now put down the bong, and rejoin civilized society if at all possible.

It should be anybody's business when the moral code's of mankind and nature are being broken. To sit back and do or say nothing is aching for chaos and mayhem to become the norm in what was once a CIVILIZED SOCIETY to a large degree.

the issue while denying the part where we challenge you to a debate regarding ethics, moral's, and uncivilized verse's civilized on the issue,

Christian conservative mother's aren't getting them, so who does that leave ?

Can you quote me expressing that idea ? Thanks.
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No one wants to interfere with anyone's live's as long as they are not being immoral, evil, reckless, lawbreaking or anything that undermines a CIVILIZED SOCIETY.
NFBW: Dobbs interferes with every pregnant woman’s life because it gives white Christian nationalists Trump voters the power of coercion to interfere when they control state legislatures and statehouses simply because they have reproductive organs and get pregnant. END2209260759
 
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Trump Christian conservative mother's aren't getting them, so who does that leave ?
NFBW: You have no way of knowing that to be true so that statement is a lie. You are a liar.

What I am wrestling with in the wake of abortion rights being overturned is the fundamental tension between Southerners like me, and conservative white women like my childhood friend, who quietly take advantage of abortion rights while helping abolish them.​
Put simply, there's a lot of hypocrisy down here, and I no longer know how to feel about it. It dawned on me this summer that in my experience, anti-choice women access abortion care at the same rates as everyone else I know. Indeed, the women in my own life who I witnessed most frequently seek elective abortions have also been the women who present themselves as "good" conservative Christians. Who, I now wonder, have I really been keeping abortion secret for all this time?​


Statistics are hard to come by on this issue, but what we do know about abortion access proves my experiences are likely representative of a broad trend. To determine how often anti-choice women are accessing the care they claim to revile, we have only to look at some hard facts and (I hope) familiar numbers: worldwide, 1 in 4 women have had an abortion. Almost a third of pregnancies miscarry, and eight percent have complications that can threaten the life of the parent or child. As for sexual violence, that happens in the U.S. literally once every minute, totaling half a million victims per year. Statistically, there is no way these overwhelming numbers don't reach into conservative families.​

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BackAgain220422-#90 “So, let’s get back to abortion “rights.” To the extent that it is largely predicated on a “right” to “privacy,” and the right to privacy is part of some penumbra of our right to be secure in our persons and in our our homes, then do we have a right to murder a person in the privacy of our own homes? (By the way, the answer of clearly “no.”) “

Vegasgiants220422-#93 - “There is no person other than the mother in a abortion”

CarsomyrPlusSix-#-5,393 “Current legal personhood occurs at birth”

NFBW: CarsomyrPlusSix confirms what Vegasgiants pointed out to BackAgain earlier in a Constitutional subjects thread to be true.

Do you agree beagle9 that there is no person constitutionally speaking other than the mother and her doctor in an abortion procedure as Vegasgiants and CarsomyrPlusSix agree that is the case? END2209260912
 
NFBW: Dobbs interferes with every pregnant woman’s life because it gives white Christian nationalists Trump voters the power of coercion to interfere when they control state legislatures and statehouses simply because they have reproductive organs and get pregnant. END2209260759
That's your fear's, but you can't prove them as a reality... They're just word's is all.
 
That's your fear's, but you can't prove them as a reality...
NFBW: The proof is all the fact that all the Taliban states shutting down access to the reproductive healthcare of abortion in their states. END2209262051
 
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" Overwhelmed By Us 1st Amendment Establishment Clause 9th 10th 14th Violations "

* Sum Rows Of How Dues Maybe *

NFBW: How so? See post #5,399 There is a conflict of rights between the not viable fetus and the viable mother for about 24 weeks after fertilization. END2209251023
Appearing to want a standard for state interests from a point of conception zygote at 0 weeks , such collectivists posit determinism by deontology through a writ of dictum from state coffers - against determinism of consequentialism by equal protection of negative liberties for independence of individuals , while asserting a distinct form of biological system is in existence .

Equitable doctrine stipulates state interests are prohibited beyond safety and security for equal protection of negative liberties among those individuals entitled by a live birth requirement of a citizen .

Appearing to want a standard for state interests from a point of heart beat embryo at 8 weeks , such collectivists posit determinism by deontology through a writ of dictum from state coffers - against determinism of consequentialism by equal protection of negative liberties for independence of individuals , while asserting a distinct form of biological system is in existence .

Equitable doctrine stipulates state interests are prohibited beyond safety and security for equal protection of negative liberties among those individuals entitled by a live birth requirement of a citizen .

Appearing to want a standard for state interests from a point of feet us at 15 weeks , such collectivists posit determinism by deontology through a writ of dictum from state coffers - against determinism of consequentialism by equal protection of negative liberties for independence of individuals , while asserting a quickening of sentience .

Equitable doctrine stipulates state interests are prohibited beyond safety and security for equal protection of negative liberties among those individuals entitled by a live birth requirement of a citizen .

Appearing to want a standard for state interests from a point of sentience at 20 weeks , such collectivists posit determinism by deontology through a writ of dictum from state coffers - against determinism of consequentialism by equal protection of negative liberties for independence of individuals , while asserting sentience and costs for resuscitation .

Equitable doctrine stipulates state interests are prohibited beyond safety and security for equal protection of negative liberties among those individuals entitled by a live birth requirement of a citizen .

Appearing to want a standard for state interests from a point of viability at 24 weeks , such collectivists posit determinism by deontology through a writ of dictum from state coffers - against determinism of consequentialism by equal protection of negative liberties for independence of individuals , while asserting an imminent live birth with sufficient potential for survival .

Equitable doctrine stipulates state interests are prohibited beyond safety and security for equal protection of negative liberties among those individuals entitled by a live birth requirement of a citizen .

Appearing to want a standard for state interests from a point of live birth , such Individualists posit determinism through consequentialism by equal protection of negative liberties for independence of individuals , while asserting an equitable doctrine through a live birth requirement for equal protection with a citizen .

In generality , abortions occurring prior to 15 weeks represent nearly all abortions without medical necessity , ultrasounds begin around 13 weeks with 15 to 20 weeks when fetal anomalies are identified and 24 weeks is a better delimiter , while 24 weeks to parturition addresses fetal or maternal anomalies .

In generality , the cutoffs indicated above are maintained by public nature , as after 15 weeks abortion for fetal anomalies has remained a medical community standard of public policy , without provocation for a state to issue magistrates for enforcement , and medical necessities include an agreement for well being based on informed consent between the medical facilities and the individual patient .
 
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That's their prerogative, and that's their statesman and woman's decision's.
NFBW: It is the state’s prerogative to ban a medical procedure in order to coerce women to subject their reproductive organs to the will of the voters in a state and suffer bodily harm and or death in to please Jesus believers. That governmental coercion is based on the rights of unborn persons that are not protected by tHE US Constitution. That is based upon the Dobbs ruling which determined that reproductive rights do not exist in the Constitution. It is absurd to rule that abortion rights do not exist because not mentioned in the Constitution But a zygote has a right to be carried full term despite no mention in the Constitution. END2209280135
 
NFBW: It is the state’s prerogative to ban a medical procedure in order to coerce women to subject their reproductive organs to the will of the voters in a state and suffer bodily harm and or death in to please Jesus believers. That governmental coercion is based on the rights of unborn persons that are not protected by tHE US Constitution. That is based upon the Dobbs ruling which determined that reproductive rights do not exist in the Constitution. It is absurd to rule that abortion rights do not exist because not mentioned in the Constitution But a zygote has a right to be carried full term despite no mention in the Constitution. END2209280135
It was only a matter of time before you were backed into a corner on your foolery, and judging by the read above you have reached critical mass on showing us just how fool you actually are.
 
It was only a matter of time before you were backed into a corner on your foolery, and judging by the read above you have reached critical mass on showing us just how fool you actually are.
This moron thinks Dobbs banned abortion nationwide?

I wish, but SCOTUS really can’t or shouldn’t do that. And they didn’t. What should have happened is that Madison should have included the right to life and property explicitly in the Bill of Rights as enumerated rights.

And now we must correct his oversight since the unforeseeably monstrous socialist party has no respect for either.
 
This moron thinks Dobbs banned abortion nationwide?

I wish, but SCOTUS really can’t or shouldn’t do that. And they didn’t. What should have happened is that Madison should have included the right to life and property explicitly in the Bill of Rights as enumerated rights.

And now we must correct his oversight since the unforeseeably monstrous socialist party has no respect for either.
Ironic, of course, that the socialist party in question is wearing the skin-suit of Madison’s Democratic-Republican Party.
 
Future (not hundreds of years from now but a mere 40) research scientists, human biologists, and specialists from multiple fields unknown currently, will ponder for hours upon end the following quandary: In 2022 the people were led by politically motivated people in control to consider whether or not abortion should be used as a birth control measure.

There will be no doubt that 2022 continued to live out outdated options, as if no better options were readily available to anyone who had 40 dollars -Plan B available at box chain drugstores all over the country- NOT to be confused with abortion pill. Those females in financial dire straights without 40 dollars can borrow the money from someone. There is no legitimate reason that abortion is STILL being used unless a mother’s life is at risk, rape or incest has occurred.

From Planned Parenthood’s site (keep in mind this org also refers women to abortion sites) : Plan B One-Step usually costs about $40-$50. Next Choice One Dose, Take Action, and My Way generally cost less — about $15-$45. You can also order a generic brand called AfterPill online for $20 + $5 shipping. (AfterPill can’t be shipped quick enough to use if you need a morning-after pill right now, but you can buy it and put it in your medicine cabinet in case you need it in the future.)


The fact that so many voters, large majority on the far left, who actually believe this is some legitimate option of birth control- as if it were merely choosing to remove a spare rib remains mind-boggling.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...new-combo-pill-may-prevent-pregnancy-for-days

Nature: New compound for male contraceptive pill​


Don’t be led around by profiteer politicians who bank on acquiring votes… motives count.
 
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thinks Dobbs banned abortion nationwide?
NFBW: I don’t think Dobbs did that. They can’t because the Constitution won’t allow it because personhood does not start a conception as the Catholics on the court have been brainwashed to believes

Meanwhile CarsomyrPlusSix do you hope an actual “baby killer” becomes a Republican Senator from Georgia instead of a good man who has not knocked a girlfriend up and paid her to terminate it?


Trump-endorsed candidate Herschel Walker has staked out his position as a no-compromise anti-abortion candidate in his run against incumbent Sen. Raphael Warnock.​
However, The Daily Beast is now reportingthat Walker once paid for an abortion for a former girlfriend, who literally kept the receipts for it and is now sharing them with reporters.​
The woman, who asked not to be identified by the publication, told The Daily Beast that Walker urged her to get an abortion after she got pregnant in 2009, and that she got him to reimburse her for the procedure.​
Trump-endorsed candidate Herschel Walker has staked out his position as a no-compromise anti-abortion candidate in his run against incumbent Sen. Raphael Warnock.​
"She supported these claims with a $575 receipt from the abortion clinic, a 'get well' card from Walker, and a bank deposit receipt that included an image of a signed $700 personal check from Walker," the publication writes. "The woman said there was a $125 difference because she 'ball-parked' the cost of an abortion after Googling the procedure and added on expenses such as travel and recovery costs."​
 

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