Zone1 Right-Wing Conservatives Aren't "Pro-Life", they're Pro-Death.

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Unable to argue your position with reasonable, rational arguments and evidence so you resort to trying to get my thread banned. Nice try, hey who knows maybe you'll get your way?

As far as your remark on genocide and oppression, assuming that it is exactly as you claim, how does that make capitalism any better or grant you the moral high ground? Capitalism's history of genocide and oppression makes communism look like an altar boy. You're so confused thinking that this is a good line of argumentation.



To address his first point, rich and poor have always coexisted, in every society. It certainly predates Capitalism.

Indeed, I would say it is more part of the human condition than something any reasonable person would try to blame an economic system for.

BTW, the flip side of a gish gallop logical fallacy that Castro did there, is that if I can show that one claim is false, than all the other claims lose credibility.


SO, Boo-yah.
 
You want to discuss complex topics, then acquire a love for reading or just place me on ignore. You just want to throw darts at the opposition and not bother reading a thorough rebuttal to your arguments. That's fine don't read what I write, others will.
stop whining
 
That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. Thank God the SCOTUS is allowing that debate to now happen and we as a society can decide what is and isnt a life. This is precisely why Roe and Casey were just horrible decisions in the first place. Glad you agree.

Again you dont know what I think on those issues, but you dont get to kill people to keep them from potentially suffering some unknown hardship in the future.

You're essentially reducing human beings to DNA. When are you going to launch the rescue operation? There are hundreds of thousands of frozen zygotes/frozen human beings, in labs around the world, being held, hostage. They have to be freed!
 
To address his first point, rich and poor have always coexisted, in every society. It certainly predates Capitalism.

Indeed, I would say it is more part of the human condition than something any reasonable person would try to blame an economic system for.

BTW, the flip side of a gish gallop logical fallacy that Castro did there, is that if I can show that one claim is false, than all the other claims lose credibility.


SO, Boo-yah.

No one has to go hungry or be homeless in America. Socialism would get rid of that problem quickly. There's no excuse for it in the modern age, with all of the technology that we have available.
 
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No one has to go hungry or be homeless in America. Socialism would get rid of that problem quickly. There's no excuse for it in the modern age, with all of the technology that we have.


Excuse? No. Reasons? YEs. We do have problems.


History has shown that if we enacted a communists system here, tens of millions would be genocided, and the survivors horrible oppressed for generations.

How many tens of millions would you be willing to see die here in America and still call it a win if Communism was in charge?
 
Excuse? No. Reasons? YEs. We do have problems.


History has shown that if we enacted a communists system here, tens of millions would be genocided, and the survivors horrible oppressed for generations.

How many tens of millions would you be willing to see die here in America and still call it a win if Communism was in charge?

You've been brainwashed by capitalist cold war BS propaganda. The only genocide in Soviet Russia was caused by outside invaders and the capitalists who were burning down farm cooperatives, murdering peasants, teachers, and everyone who was a socialist. The United States along with 14 other countries invaded Soviet Russia after WW1 in an attempt to destroy the socialists and take back the assets once owned by British colonialists. They failed.

In twenty years the socialists turned an under-industrialized, agrarian society comprised mostly of illiterate peasants, into an industrial juggernaut, rivaling the United States. From 87% illiteracy to almost 100% literacy in twenty years. The United States was going through its great depression and the Soviets were doing quite well. It was a marvel at how it industrialized itself and improved the standard of living of millions of people. The United States had more than a 120-year headstart with industrialization and socialism accomplished nearly the same level of industrialization in twenty years. Socialism doesn't work? Who are you trying to fool?

Four million Germans, who at the time were the most advanced war machine on Earth, invaded Soviet Russia and nine million Soviet soldiers lost their lives defending their homeland. About 17 million civilians died as a result of that war. The Soviets beat the Nazis and less than 15 years later they were launching satellites into space. They had become the second largest economy in the world, again rivaling the United States. A nuclear superpower. Socialism doesn't work? Are you sure?

The Soviets invented a lot of technology:


That's just a few inventions. There's a long list. Microwave ovens, LED lights..etc, the first space stations, the first spacecraft docking in space, the first human beings in space..etc

Socialism doesn't work? And they accomplished all of that, despite of all of the challenges and obstacles that the well established capitalist powers threw at them. They were essentially encircled by the imperialists, and sanctioned, threatened with war..etc. The Cold War wasn't an arms race, it was an arms chase, because the Soviet Union, didn't want to be in a cold war with anyone. Socialists want to spend their resources on building infrastructure, providing food, housing, heathcare, an education to their comrades, not spending resources on a huge military, fighting a war against another superpower.

I'll end with this. There were plenty of famines, genocides, mountains of bodies, before socialism existed. In capitalist colonialism, there was plenty of oppression, bloodshed, poverty, famines..etc. So why use these types of arguments against socialism? These arguments can be used against capitalism. Don't you realize that?




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You've been brainwashed by capitalist cold war BS propaganda. The only genocide in Soviet Russia was caused by outside invaders and the capitalists who were burning down farm cooperatives, murdering peasants, teachers, and everyone that was a socialist. The United States along with 14 other countries invaded Soviet Russia after WW1 in an attempt to destroy the socialists and take back the assets once owned by British colonialists. They failed.

In twenty years the socialists turned an under-industrialized, agrarian society comprised mostly of illiterate peasants, into an industrial juggernaut, rivaling the United States. From 87% illiteracy to almost 100% literacy in twenty years. The United States was going through its great depression and the Soviets were doing quite well. It was a marvel at how it industrialized itself and improved the standard of living of millions of people. The United States had more than a 120-year headstart with industrialization and socialism accomplished nearly the same level of industrialization in twenty years. Socialism doesn't work? Who are you trying to fool?


1. The genocides of communist Soviet Union are well know. I believe the total is normally considered 20 million-ish.

2. Russia had been already rapidly industrializing before the revolution. Such rapid increases in industrial production was normal. There is a reason they called it The INdustrial Revolution. That is hit in Russia later, would of course allow it to happen faster.
 
1. The genocides of communist Soviet Union are well know. I believe the total is normally considered 20 million-ish.

2. Russia had been already rapidly industrializing before the revolution. Such rapid increases in industrial production was normal. There is a reason they called it The INdustrial Revolution. That is hit in Russia later, would of course allow it to happen faster.
The Soviet Union was socialist, not communist.
USSR - UNION OF SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLICS

The "genocides" of the Soviets, are well known in your delusional mind. The genocides that are truly known are those committed by the Germans who invaded Soviet Russia and of course the capitalist colonialists of the 1800s, and early 1900s. Many genocides were committed by capitalists.



Russia in 1917 was industrializing at a snail's pace with very little modern infrastructure. It was the Soviets who quickly and fully industrialized Russia. That's really what's well known.
 
The Soviet Union was socialist, not communist.

I have no interest in silly word games.


You support genocide.

I ask again, how many millions of Americans would you be willing to see die from commie genocide, and you would still call it a "good thing" if commies like yourself took over?


You surely have considered this. Give us the answer.
 
I have no interest in silly word games.


You support genocide.

I ask again, how many millions of Americans would you be willing to see die from commie genocide, and you would still call it a "good thing" if commies like yourself took over?


You surely have considered this. Give us the answer.
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