Zone1 Right-Wing Conservatives Aren't "Pro-Life", they're Pro-Death.

[Red Front]

Tally the numbers comrade, if that's your idea of victory then I wish you many many more


...and the most telling thing about that post is that the word communism is not to be found anywhere in it


I said "America" and you changed it to "capitalism" [wonder why?] but your post is unintentionally correct in that the coming of age in America as a country and the birth of Marxism were both in the 19th century and you admit that is when europes victories over capitalism ended...freudian slip perhaps?


Do you consider that a good thing or a bad thing?


War with America?


and then you pretend this is also true...

...which proves the former is just the lie sold by communists to the unsuspecting as I said it was/is

btw, you possess the authoritarian communist trait/gene of saying so very little with far too many needless/useless words

You just don't want anyone providing a thorough analysis of your claims hence your complaints about "long posts". One line of your BS, might take a paragraph to debunk, with evidence. Some people just don't realize that It takes more time and energy to refute BS than it takes to spew it.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

What was the objective of the United States in the Vietnam war? Answer: To stop socialism.

To kick communists dead in their behinds

Did it accomplish that? NO. The Socialist North took the whole country and it's now till this day, a socialist country.

Actually it was communist infiltration of the democratic party in 68 and the education system that forced an end to the war...which is why the communists have decided it is better to kill Americans in the womb rather than pretend death on the battlefield is victory.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

You just don't want anyone providing a thorough analysis of your claims hence your complaints about "long posts". One line of your BS, might take a paragraph to debunk, with evidence. Some people just don't realize that. It takes more time and energy to refute BS than it takes to spew it.

see that! the old "commie front" would have needed 4 more paragraphs to try and say that...good job

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The fact that the US invasion of Vietnam caused the death of three million Vietnamese, is nothing to brag about for the United States, it should be ashamed of its invasion of Vietnam. People are still dying today in Vietnam and Laos, from American mines and other undetonated ordinance. More bombs were dropped in Vietnam and Laos than in WW2.

Yeah, the very description of a typical communist victory

 

[Red Front]

To kick communists dead in their behinds


Actually it was communist infiltration of the democratic party in 68 and the education system that forced an end to the war...which is why the communists have decided it is better to kill Americans in the womb rather than pretend death on the battlefield is victory.

Despite all of the carnage inflicted upon the people of Vietnam by the US empire, it failed to eliminate socialism from Vietnam. The North took the whole country, and nothing you could ever say will alter that fact. The purpose of America's wars, with few exceptions (WW2). is money:

http://kether.com/words/butler-smedley--war-is-a-racket-1.pdf

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It's not communists killing fetuses in the womb, it's the American capitalist run, private medical industry killing them. One could say the same thing about all of the transgender hormone treatments and sex reassignment surgeries. All capitalism, not socialism. The right-wing Republicans also contribute to the high abortion rates by defunding needed social programs that address the needs of single mothers and their children. You defund everything from healthcare, food stamps, housing, job training, daycare, school lunches, school supplies, and clothing, all of these resources that these single mothers need, you take away and give it to the billionaires in tax cuts and bailouts.

Socialism for the rich and pick yourself up by your bootstraps capitalism for the working-class. Profits are privatized, and losses are made public, in the form of tax cuts for the rich and increased taxes for the poor, not to speak of the trillions of dollars in bailouts and wars. Make the rich richer and the poor even poorer, that's your motto.

 

[Red Front]

Yeah, the very description of a typical communist victory

The big bully empire lost, yes. You're 6ft,7, weighing in at 300 pounds. You're a big guy. You want my shit, so you try to get it and I fight back and you break all of my bones. I almost die fighting you, but you don't get what you want. I threw it in a safe, and that's my family's wealth, it's all we have. You're going to have to kill me before you take that from me and my family. You left empty-handed with a broken finger and a bloody nose. I had to go to the ICU, and I almost died, but I survived and now you're bragging about how you kicked my ass. Really? That's something to brag about? I'm 5ft,6, 145 pounds. Your values are really screwed up.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Americans have nothing to be proud of about that war.

non-sequitur... it wasn't about pride it was about you introducing Nam [and Korea] into the equation to try and misdirect the point America keeps defeating communism, that has now failed you, so you pretend it was not you who needlessly introduced a faux analogy because that has failed you as well.

Not only did America fail to stop socialism in Vietnam but it caused the unnecessary deaths of fifty thousand Americans. For what? For you to brag about how many people you can kill?

[...again the word communism is conspicuously missing from your post]

Just one American death in exchange for all those millions of dead communists is far too high a price to pay, but that was not the point you thought you could get away with making, it was about who won the war and you needed to change gears when you saw the jig was up.

 

[Red Front]

non-sequitur... it wasn't about pride it was about you introducing Nam [and Korea] into the equation to try and misdirect the point America keeps defeating communism, that has now failed you, so you pretend it was not you who needlessly introduced a faux analogy because that has failed you as well.


[...again the word communism is conspicuously missing from your post]

Just one American death in exchange for all those millions of dead communists is far too high a price to pay, but that was not the point you thought you could get away with making, it was about who won the war and you needed to change gears when you saw the jig was up.

Yeah sure keep telling yourself that capitalism has beat socialism or that America "won" those wars. If you want to debate capitalism and socialism, and which system is better, open a new thread and I'll meet you there. I can debate on two or three threads at a time. Open a new thread about that and we can debate the topic.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Jeremiah 1-5 refutes your suggestion that a fetus is not a human, but an embryo or a zygote.

God says:

5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Conservatives are certainly inconsistent hypocrites when it comes to being ‘pro’ life.

 

[Red Front]

Conservatives are certainly inconsistent hypocrites when it comes to being ‘pro’ life.

Yep, they sure are. They're the champions and defenders of fetuses. But, they don't give a hoot about all of the carnage that they create with their right-wing politics.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Despite all of the carnage inflicted upon the people of Vietnam by the US empire, it failed to eliminate socialism from Vietnam. The North took the whole country, and nothing you could ever say will alter that fact.

Yeah, it took McDonalds to alter that fact

The purpose of America's wars, with few exceptions (WW2). is money:

So then the objective was met

http://kether.com/words/butler-smedley--war-is-a-racket-1.pdf ​

lol...love jesse

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It's not communists killing fetuses in the womb, it's the American capitalist private medical industry killing them.

is that a good thing for women or a bad thing for them?

One could say the same thing about all of the transgender hormone treatments and sex reassignment surgeries. All capitalism, not socialism.

is that a good thing or a bad thing for them?

The right-wing Republicans also contribute to the high abortion rates by defunding needed social programs that address the needs of single mothers and their children. You defund everything from healthcare, food stamps, housing, job training, daycare, school lunches, school supplies, and clothing, all of these resources that these single mothers need, you take away and give it to the billionaires in tax cuts and bailouts.

see, you're relapsing, the same thing could be said in about one third the amount of words

Socialism for the rich and pick yourself up by your bootstraps capitalism for the working-class. Profits are privatized, and losses are made public, in the form of tax cuts for the rich and increased taxes for the poor, not to speak of the trillions of dollars in bailouts and wars. Make the rich richer and the poor even poorer.

If you created your own wealth none of this would be a problem

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The big bully empire lost, yes. You're 6ft,7, weighing in at 300 pounds. You're a big guy. You want my shit, so you try to get it and I fight back and you break all of my bones. I almost die fighting you, but you don't get what you want. I threw it in a safe, and that's my family's wealth, it's all we have. You're going to have to kill me before you take that from me and my family. You left empty-handed with a broken finger and a bloody nose. I had to go to the ICU, and I almost died, but I survived and now you're bragging about how you kicked my ass. Really? That's something to brag about? I'm 5ft,6, 145 pounds. Your values are really screwed up.

good story...but you [nam] weren't the problem..the cancer [communism] was, and we were the chemo that knocked the spit out of it...socialism is the residue of remission, but that does not mean you are out of the woods, as long as you have socialism the grim reaper [communism] is hovering nearby

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Yeah sure keep telling yourself that capitalism has beat socialism or that America "won" those wars. If you want to debate capitalism and socialism, and which system is better, open a new thread and I'll meet you there. I can debate on two or three threads at a time. Open a new thread about that and we can debate the topic.

Sounds to me like you need a change of venue to erase the debacle you got yourself into here and would like a do-over, [typical communist tactic], if you need a new thread to get out of this one then you start it, i'm not giving you the escape route you so desperately need.

 

[Red Front]

Yeah, it took McDonalds to alter that fact


So then the objective was met

lol...love jesse

is that a good thing for women or a bad thing for them?


is that a good thing or a bad thing for them?

see, you're relapsing, the same thing could be said in about one third the amount of words

If you created your own wealth none of this would be a problem

You don't have a problem with going to war to make a few billionaires wealthier? Sure the American ruling class often meets its business objectives when it supports wars, at the expense of Americans and all of the people they kill abroad. How is that something to be proud of?

As far as whether abortion or all of this transgender confusion is good, no of course not. It's always better for a woman to get pregnant when she's married and is ready to be a mother. It's horrible to see our youth so sexually confused. However, your opinion about whether a zygote, embryo, or undeveloped fetus is a human being or not, shouldn't prevent a woman from ending her pregnancy, especially when you support government policies that undermine her ability to provide for herself and her children. If single mothers had a bit more support from society, and from their government, perhaps they would be more inclined to not abort their pregnancies. Socialism reduces abortion because it addresses scarcity, providing people with at least their basic needs.


By creating our own wealth, socialism for the rich at the expense of the working-class wouldn't be a problem? How do you figure that by you becoming rich, somehow makes it OK for the rich to continue exploiting the poor and working class people? Trillions of dollars in bailouts and warmongering isn't going to be a problem if I personally become rich? Don't I live in a society with other people? I don't live in a vacuum. If I hurt the working-class, I hurt myself. The working-class is my paying consumer. That's my market and the backbone of the economy. You're not making much sense.

 

[Red Front]

Sounds to me like you need a change of venue to erase the debacle you got yourself into here and would like a do-over, [typical communist tactic], if you need a new thread to get out of this one then you start it, i'm not giving you the escape route you so desperately need.

You're deluding yourself into thinking that and ignoring the fact that the admins are in the habit of banning people for getting off-topic.

 

[Red Front]

good story...but you [nam] weren't the problem..the cancer [communism] was, and we were the chemo that knocked the spit out of it...socialism is the residue of remission, but that does not mean you are out of the woods, as long as you have socialism the grim reaper [communism] is hovering nearby

Nothing changed with respect to Vietnamese socialism and its views on communism. You obviously ignore the fact that in Marxism, socialists can and should identify as communists. Communism is the objective and with the advancement of technology, communism becomes inevitable. The cancer is capitalism because it's outlived its usefulness, due to advanced technology. This topic has nothing to do with abortion, so get back on track.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

You deluding yourself into thinking that and ignoring the fact that the admins are in the habit of banning people for getting off-topic.

dude you introduced nam and korea into this thread and I accused you of using misdirection for doing so...the delusion [assuming you are not intentionally lying] is all on you...and why am I the one ignoring what the mods will do? are you not guilty of the very thing you pretend I should have to do?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Nothing changed with respect to Vietnamese socialism and its views on communism. You obviously ignore the fact that in Marxism, socialists can and should identify as communists. Communism is objective and with the advancement of technology, communism becomes inevitable. The cancer is capitalism because it's outlived its usefulness, due to advanced technology.

May all be true, but then it would be a waste of time and foolhardy for anyone who really believes that to open it up for debate

This topic has nothing to do with abortion, so get back on track.

I believe this was my first post that you decided required you to introduce the misdirection posts of Nam and Korea

it's the lie communists sell to the unsuspecting [young and the naive]...communists have long lost every encounter with America, they have now figured out that their only salvation is to infect the system and kill Americans in the womb before they can fight back.

All yours comrade, care to dispute the merits this time?

 

[Red Front]

dude you introduced nam and korea into this thread and I accused you of using misdirection for doing so...the delusion [assuming you are not intentionally lying] is all on you...and why am I the one ignoring what the mods will do? are you not guilty of the very thing you pretend I should have to do?

If you read the post that I was responding to, you'll see that the person was talking about how capitalism or America had beaten socialism and the communists. That's why I mentioned Korea and Vietnam. Two wars where America, the supposed destroyer of socialism, lost. Again, you can deny that all you want if it makes you feel better. Not only did the United States lose Korea and Vietnam, but Afghanistan as well. Sure, the capitalist ruling class of America won, by cashing in with all of those defense contracts.etc, but the American people and working-class lost. The Taliban are now back in power. So trillions of dollars were spent, that could've been used to build our nation's infrastructure, eliminate homelessness, and provide better services to our elderly and our veterans. Provide healthcare, and education to our people, but NO all of that money was poured into the pockets of billionaires.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

My first post to you:

No but it's the lie communists sell to the unsuspecting [young and the naive]...communists have long lost every encounter with America, they have now figured out that their only salvation is to infect the system and kill Americans in the womb before they can fight back.

And your very first reply [off topic] to it

Really? Have you ever heard of a war called "Korea" or"Vietnam"? The communists didn't lose there, it was capitalist-USA, Babylon, that lost those wars. Right now many countries are adopting socialism, because they realize capitalism is obsolete and doesn't address the problem of unemployment caused by advanced technology. Capitalists lost many battles with the kings and nobles of Europe, until the 19th century, so to argue that socialism or communism have lost the war is quite naive. Socialism is the future.

Capitalism is what fuels the abortion industry, not communism. We eliminate most abortions, you know how? We consider food, housing, healthcare, education, employment..etc, a HUMAN RIGHT. Single pregnant women and single mothers don't have to worry about going homeless and hungry, we take care of them, just like Jesus orders His disciples to do. Capitalism is what causes all of this poverty, death, and destruction in the world, not socialism. It's your love and pursuit of your god, mammon, that consumes the world.