Revival of the cavalry

[Mushroom]

However, the notion of an American guerilla force on horseback is quite romantic, if wholly insane.

We used it in both Iraq and Afghanistan. And for certain uses it can be highly effective.

Before the 9/11 attacks, then-Capt. Mark Nutsch never expected he would use horseback riding — a skill he learned growing up on a Kansas cattle ranch — in battle.

But weeks later on Oct. 19, 2001, Nutsch and a team of 11 other Green Berets with the 5th Special Forces Group's Operational Detachment Alpha 595 were inserted into Afghanistan to liberate the region from the Taliban without tanks or trucks. Just horses.

“We didn’t know horses were going to be involved until about 48 hours prior to our insertion when we were given the phrase ‘be prepared to use indigenous animals for transportation,’” Nutsch told Military Times.

How the âHorse Soldiersâ helped liberate Afghanistan from the Taliban 18 years ago

On Oct. 19, 2001, a team of 12 Green Berets with the 5th Special Forces Group's Operational Detachment Alpha 595 were inserted into Afghanistan to liberate the region from the Taliban without tanks or trucks. Just horses.

www.militarytimes.com

But not for any kind of "main fighting force". The very idea of that is laughable in the extreme. Small squad sized units involved in recon and scouting, yes. For anything larger than a platoon for actual fighting, hell no.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Because now in modern fighting, we aren't in the fields as much. Think about it.


We use attack and spy drones for much of everything now. Everything can be destroyed remotely. The only thing that can't be captured or neutralized without complete destruction is a city. Ground troops are the only thing suitable for that kind of combat. In order to get to the cities, troops are carried in fast armored transports, or are flown in via helicopters. Gone are the days of infantry fighting in fields. It's a new world we're fighting in.

This eastern European mental reject is still fighting the Cold War that ended 30 years ago.

 

[Mushroom]

Also, another word for some that know nothing about actual military tactics other than from movies.

While the Germans and others have used horses for warfare, they were not "cavalry". What they actually were at most was "Dragoons".

And there is a huge difference between Cavalry and Dragoons. Even the Special Forces I linked to earlier was not "Cavalry", but "Dragoons". If one is not familiar with the latter word, I suggest you go and look it up. And you are welcome for trying to teach you something.

 

[rupol2000]

While the Germans and others have used horses for warfare, they were not "cavalry". What they actually were at most was "Dragoons".

Listen, do you really have anything to do with military affairs? Dragoons are cavalry lol
This is a kind of cavalry troops with their own specifics. As fighters are part of the aviation, so the dragoons are part of the cavalry, their peculiarity is that they can act on foot, but this does not negate that these are cavalry units

 

[rupol2000]

We still have Cavalry only they use helicopters instead of horses.
Much more effective

View attachment 568342
1st Cavalry Division

According to information from Wikipedia, this division has no horses, only the name remains. The horses apparently remained in the 2nd cavalry regiment.

PS
However, they are not visible there either.

 

[rightwinger]

According to information from Wikipedia, this division has no horses, only the name remains. The horses apparently remained in the 2nd cavalry regiment.

PS
However, they are not visible there either.

Cavalry is a mission not people on horses

Used to be horses were the best means to do the mission of rapidly deploying and engaging an enemy

Today, helicopters and armored vehicles do that mission better

 

[rupol2000]

Cavalry is a mission not people on horses

Used to be horses were the best means to do the mission of rapidly deploying and engaging an enemy

Today, helicopters and armored vehicles do that mission better

Horses have more than just deployment advantage. Deployment isn't about cavalry at all, it's an infantry term, it's used for linear tactics.

The horse is better in all respects, and the cavalry is the elite of the elite since the chariots of 2000 BC, it is the highest military aristocracy and the best warriors of all time.

 

[rupol2000]

The term deployment means building along the front in a row or several rows, if my memory serves me right.

The cavalry was either not built at all, or was built into a wedge if it was used to break the formation

 

[rupol2000]

 

[rightwinger]

Horses have more than just deployment advantage. Deployment isn't about cavalry at all, it's an infantry term, it's used for linear tactics.

The horse is better in all respects, and the cavalry is the elite of the elite since the chariots of 2000 BC, it is the highest military aristocracy and the best warriors of all time.

The machine gun made horses obsolete on the battlefield

 

[rupol2000]

The machine gun made horses obsolete on the battlefield

In the first half of the 20th century, machine gunners moved exactly on horses

 

[rupol2000]

This is all absolute nonsense. A horse is in any case more effective than a simple infantry. They avoid them because of ideology, 100%
They are simply afraid of the revival of the military aristocracy that will kill them

 

[rupol2000]

It's not about the effectiveness of equestrian combat, which may or may not already play such a significant role as before, of course, but in the very spirit and history of these traditions, which they fear as evil spirits are afraid of fire

 

[rupol2000]

One has only to revive the military culture, the blind masses will immediately remember the chariots of Helios and the destruction of dragons. So the sun can rise. That's what they are afraid of
How they once destroyed all the livestock of the Great Bull of Turan.

 

[rightwinger]

In the first half of the 20th century, machine gunners moved exactly on horses

Millions of horses were slaughtered in WWI
The advent of the machine gun

 

[rupol2000]

Millions of horses were slaughtered in WWI
The advent of the machine gun

Machine guns were carried on horseback, and they killed stupid infantry

 

[rupol2000]

Millions of horses were slaughtered in WWI

World War II killed about 50 million infantry

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Machine guns were carried on horseback, and they killed stupid infantry

Horseback? That is a carriage!

 

[rupol2000]

Horseback? That is a carriage!

This is tachanka idiot

Tachanka - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rupol2000]