Republicans want to raise taxes on those making less than 106K a year

Chris

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Social Security payroll taxes apply only to the first $106,800 of a worker's wages. Therefore, $2,136 is the biggest benefit anyone can gain from the one-year reduction.

The great majority of Americans make less than $106,800 a year. Millions of workers pay more in payroll taxes than in federal income taxes.

The 12-month tax reduction will cost the government about $120 billion this year, and a similar amount next year if it's renewed.

That worries Rep. David Camp, R-Mich., chairman of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, and a member of the House-Senate supercommittee tasked with finding new deficit cuts. Tax reductions, "no matter how well-intended," will push the deficit higher, making the panel's task that much harder, Camp's office said.

But Republican lawmakers haven't always worried about tax cuts increasing the deficit. They led the fight to extend the life of a much bigger tax break: the major 2001 income tax reduction enacted under Bush. It was scheduled to expire at the start of this year. Obama campaigned on a pledge to end the tax break only for the richest Americans, but solid GOP opposition forced him to back down.

Many Republicans are adamant about not raising taxes but largely silent on what it would mean to let the payroll tax break expire.

Republicans cite key differences between the two "temporary" taxes, starting with the fact that the Bush measure had a 10-year life from the start. To stimulate job growth, these lawmakers say, it's better to reduce income tax rates for people and for companies than to extend the payroll tax break.

The Associated Press: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block
 
Yes we do, eventually anyways. Everyone should share the burden of supporting the thieves in Washington. Currently the bottom half pay nothing to DC. I fail to see the controversy. Even Obama says everyone should pay their fair share.
 
Yes we do, eventually anyways. Everyone should share the burden of supporting the thieves in Washington. Currently the bottom half pay nothing to DC. I fail to see the controversy. Even Obama says everyone should pay their fair share.

Actually that's inconsistent with the specific increase being discussed.

Everyone who makes even a dollar in wages pays into FICA, and it's the FICA holiday expiry that's being considered.

Memes notwithstanding.
 
Good.
The payroll tax cut was a stupid idea that did nothing but increase the deficit.
Get rid of it and put i some tax cuts that will actually change people's behavior.
Obama is clueless. So is Chris.
 
It averages out to about a thousand dollars a year from what I hear. That translates to about 19 dollars a week on an average. Do you really think that 20 bucks a week is going to jumpstart our economy? Get real and come up with a solution that actually has a lasting impact.
 
Republicans will defend to the death tax breaks for the rich, but don't care about raising taxes on working people.
 
Good.
The payroll tax cut was a stupid idea that did nothing but increase the deficit.
Get rid of it and put i some tax cuts that will actually change people's behavior.
Obama is clueless. So is Chris.

Bwahaaa, another wingnut admits that tax cuts don't increase revenues.
 
Republicans will defend to the death tax breaks for the rich, but don't care about raising taxes on working people.

You guys are the ones who keep talking about Everyone paying their fair Share while half the People Pay nothing and 10% of them pay 90%.

You guys want to make that even more skewed so even more people pay nothing and the top 10% carry even more of the Burden.

Sorry anyone who knows the Definition of Fair, Knows you are full of shit.
 
they are getting tripped up pretty good with this one.


Maybe Obama has finnally out manuvered them
 
I think those minimum wage idiots - like NYCarbineer - should pay more taxes. For once.

Let them feel the pain we rich bastards have been enduring for years.

I say raise taxes 40% on welfare cases like NYCarbineer. People of his ilk have been bitching for months about raising taxes, time to man up and grow a set.

Yep, I am in favor of it.
 
Republicans cite key differences between the two "temporary" taxes, starting with the fact that the Bush measure had a 10-year life from the start. To stimulate job growth, these lawmakers say, it's better to reduce income tax rates for people and for companies than to extend the payroll tax break.]

And why do Republicans say that?

Because they know that low income Americans are already at zero income tax, and restoring the payroll tax and cutting the income tax rates will effectively raise taxes back up for the poorer and cut taxes for the richer.

lol, and to think I was joking yesterday when I said the GOP should run on cutting taxes for the Rich and raising taxes on the Poor (after some nuts around here came out for that).
 
Republicans will defend to the death tax breaks for the rich, but don't care about raising taxes on working people.

Its not called a death tax.

that is a republican talking point.

Its inheritance tax.

they wanted to make it sound like people were being taxed to die.

Its actually not taxing dead people.

its taxing people who have inherited like five million or more.

That means you can leave millions to a kid without a dime of tax.
 
Republicans will defend to the death tax breaks for the rich, but don't care about raising taxes on working people.

You guys are the ones who keep talking about Everyone paying their fair Share while half the People Pay nothing and 10% of them pay 90%.

You guys want to make that even more skewed so even more people pay nothing and the top 10% carry even more of the Burden.

Sorry anyone who knows the Definition of Fair, Knows you are full of shit.

Dude, you're making shit up. Even the most rightwing sources place the top 10 @ around 70%. All these analyses disregard FICA altogether - As stated earlier, EVERYONE who earns even a single dollar in wages pays into FICA. This 'half that pay nothing' DOES. NOT. FUCKING. EXIST.

It's especially ironic that you wheel that crufty shit out in this particular thread, since FICA is precisely what's being discussed.

Promise me... PROMISE, and mean it this time... That you will read something not from Heritage before you post here again. Promise?
 
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and what do you call fair share?

squeezing pennys out of the starving?

You would have to have debtors prison for the ones who decided to eat instead of pay taxes.
 
Republicans will defend to the death tax breaks for the rich, but don't care about raising taxes on working people.

You guys are the ones who keep talking about Everyone paying their fair Share while half the People Pay nothing and 10% of them pay 90%.

You guys want to make that even more skewed so even more people pay nothing and the top 10% carry even more of the Burden.

Sorry anyone who knows the Definition of Fair, Knows you are full of shit.

Dude, you're making shit up. Even the most rightwing sources place the top 10 @ around 70%. All these analyses disregard FICA altogether - As stated earlier, EVERYONE who earns even a single dollar in wages pays into FICA. This 'half that pay nothing' DOES. NOT. FUCKING. EXIST.

Promise me... PROMISE, and mean it this time... That you will read something not from Heritage before you post here again. Promise?

Why don't you whip out your fucking paycheck and make out a LARGE ONE payable to the U.S. Treasury ?

Go for it. You're wetting your panties in anticipation of higher taxes - go for it !

Stroke the check.

Short of that, STFU
 

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