Republicans pass a bill to kill our freedoms

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This is possible because both parties are the SAME party.

Anybody who thinks that the Dems are soft on drugs laws isn't paying attention.

Clinton's DoJ put more people in prison for marijuana crimes that Bush II's did.
 

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Because drugs are bad when not dispensed by the proper authorities, as with all things in modern America only the well to do, through their physician, are allowed to escape reality for brief moments.


"Great inequality is the scourge of modern societies. We provide the evidence on each of eleven different health and social problems: physical health, mental health, drug abuse, education, imprisonment, obesity, social mobility, trust and community life, violence, teenage births, and child well-being. For all eleven of these health and social problems, outcomes are very substantially worse in more unequal societies." Richard Wilkinson/Kate Pickett The Evidence in Detail | The Equality Trust
 
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How about y'all try thinking for yourselves instead of being told what to think by the media.

People with an IQ over room temperature do not form their opinions based on media reports, particularly when that source is the HuffPuff.

Idiots.
 

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Because drugs are bad when not dispensed by the proper authorities, as with all things in modern America only the well to do, through their physician, are allowed to escape reality for brief moments.
who the hell are you trying to kid?......only the well to do?.....if that were so you would not see these assholes trying to close the med shops down.....
 

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I was gonna' say not to worry because the Democrat controled Senate would NEVER pass such draconian legislation, and even if it did Obama would veto it. Just like they shit-canned the Patriot Act. :rolleyes:

But then I saw the case was in Miami.

Hold your horses! I know why the US Government is going after these guys: They're trying to move in on the US Governments territory!:

The Sinaloa Drug Cartel:
Mexican Narco-Trafficker
The indictment pending against Zambada Niebla claims he served as the “logistical coordinator” for the “cartel,” helping to oversee an operation that imported into the U.S. “multi-ton quantities of cocaine … using various means, including but not limited to, Boeing 747 cargo aircraft, private aircraft … buses, rail cars, tractor trailers, and automobiles.”
The revelation that Zambada Niebla claims to have been a U.S. government asset, working with its sanction, is a shocking development in the so-called drug war and has gone largely un-reported by the U.S. media. The claim, if true, adds credence to theories long in play that the Mexican and U.S. governments are essentially showing favor toward the Sinaloa drug organization and its leadership, including El Mayo and Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman Lorea, as part of a broader strategy to weaken and ultimately eliminate rival narco organizations. U.S. and Mexican government officials, of course, have consistently denied that any such arrangement is in place
Also, now you know why the Justice Department was sending weapons down there as well. They needed to arm the US Gov'ts drug traders to fight against other drug cartels who didn't play ball with the US gov't and launder their drug money in select US Banks (Like Wells Fargo) Is it all starting to make sense now? :lol:

Sorry the link isn't from FoxNews or MSNBC but they really don't report on stuff like this.
 

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Because idiots like you keep voting for the same people.
you know it's the House with its tea loons, right?

it won't get through the Senate.

i found the wording interesting... it's illegal to "plan or discuss" things in this country that you intend to do in another country?

it seems to deal with more than drugs...
 

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How about y'all try thinking for yourselves instead of being told what to think by the media.

People with an IQ over room temperature do not form their opinions based on media reports, particularly when that source is the HuffPuff.

Idiots.
That's right CG... tell 'em...

they need to wait for Fox News, right? :thup:
 

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There are "News" outlets for both sides that are not "News".

It's a bit saddening to see both sides complaining about it since both sides have their 'agencies' that are held rather tight to the extreme ends of the bell curve. It's more obfuscation in the eyes of this Canadian. It's hard to get to the meat of matters when this diatribe gets in the middle and muddles it all up.
 

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Republicans by definition regard States' right sacro sanct . Well once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away they did. Apparently unlike the elephant, which never forgets, this bunch of coconuts has forgotten that. But then Republicans have been mucking around in everyone's rights, including States', for such a long time I really don't find this latest invasion the least bit surprising.
 

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Republicans by definition regard States' right sacro sanct . Well once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away they did. Apparently unlike the elephant, which never forgets, this bunch of coconuts has forgotten that. But then Republicans have been mucking around in everyone's rights, including States', for such a long time I really don't find this latest invasion the least bit surprising.
As a person so well informed. What was the committee vote, who opposed? Why did they oppose? What was the best argument for.

What you dont know a damn thing.........................:lol:
 

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here's the key phrase in the story...
if carried out in the U.S
So, the example below...
"Under this bill, if a young couple plans a wedding in Amsterdam, and as part of the wedding, they plan to buy the bridal party some marijuana, they would be subject to prosecution," said Bill Piper, director of national affairs for the Drug Policy Alliance, which advocates for reforming the country's drug laws.
is incorrect.

According to the OP's source, the acts would have to be carried out in the US. Since this wedding is in Amsterdam, there would be no possibility of prosecution.

The Op itself shows the assertions of the OP to be false.

I love stupid people. :rofl:
 

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Republicans by definition regard States' right sacro sanct . Well once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away they did. Apparently unlike the elephant, which never forgets, this bunch of coconuts has forgotten that. But then Republicans have been mucking around in everyone's rights, including States', for such a long time I really don't find this latest invasion the least bit surprising.
So much so that they fought a civil war to eliminate them.
 

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What was the vote in committee? If you can not answer that. you are full of shit and speculation.
Looks like it was 20-7 in subcommittee two days ago.

According to the OP's source, the acts would have to be carried out in the US.
The language in the bill is:

`(b) Whoever, within the United States, conspires with one or more persons, or aids or abets one or more persons, regardless of where such other persons are located, to engage in conduct at any place outside the United States that would constitute a violation of this title if committed within the United States, shall be subject to the same penalties that would apply to such conduct if it were to occur within the United States.'.​
 

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According to the OP's source, the acts would have to be carried out in the US. Since this wedding is in Amsterdam, there would be no possibility of prosecution.
No, they would not have to be carried out in the U.S. They would have to be illegal IF carried out in the U.S. Thus, buying some marijuana for the bride and groom, which is legal in Holland, would be illegal if they did it in the U.S., and so they can be prosecuted for conspiracy to commit an act in a foreign country that would be illegal in the U.S.

It's already illegal to conspire to commit an illegal act on U.S. territory; no new legislation would be required for that.
 

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What was the vote in committee? If you can not answer that. you are full of shit and speculation.
Looks like it was 20-7 in subcommittee two days ago.

According to the OP's source, the acts would have to be carried out in the US.
The language in the bill is:

`(b) Whoever, within the United States, conspires with one or more persons, or aids or abets one or more persons, regardless of where such other persons are located, to engage in conduct at any place outside the United States that would constitute a violation of this title if committed within the United States, shall be subject to the same penalties that would apply to such conduct if it were to occur within the United States.'.​
Thanks GB 20-7 No extra point?
 

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This is possible because both parties are the SAME party.

Anybody who thinks that the Dems are soft on drugs laws isn't paying attention.

Clinton's DoJ put more people in prison for marijuana crimes that Bush II's did.
"You must spread some Reputation around before you give it to editec again."

It is just hilarious the way so many fail to appreciate what an excellent Republican (if Bush is any measure of excellent Republican) Obama has been to date. The bailouts, the War on Drugs, stimulus spending, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, government sponsored healthcare, his 2nd Amendment position, deficit spending, the expansion of the regulatory state, upholding abuses of the interstate commerce clause, ... I have serious difficulties seeing what the Republicans are complaining about ... unless it's that they believe that McCain would have done more to advance their patently statist agenda.
 

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This is possible because both parties are the SAME party.

Anybody who thinks that the Dems are soft on drugs laws isn't paying attention.

Clinton's DoJ put more people in prison for marijuana crimes that Bush II's did.
"You must spread some Reputation around before you give it to editec again."

It is just hilarious the way so many fail to appreciate what an excellent Republican (if Bush is any measure of excellent Republican) Obama has been to date. The bailouts, the War on Drugs, stimulus spending, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, government sponsored healthcare, his 2nd Amendment position, deficit spending, the expansion of the regulatory state, upholding abuses of the interstate commerce clause, ... I have serious difficulties seeing what the Republicans are complaining about ... unless it's that they believe that McCain would have done more to advance their patently statist agenda.
You make some good points........... Then I recall GWs approval numbers.

I wonder if some realize the correlation.
 

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