Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.

[koshergrl]

The Gay Platform in 1972:

State:

[FONT=verdana, geneva, helvetica]3. Repeal all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female.

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[FONT=verdana, geneva, helvetica]7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.

Federal:

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6. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by gay women and men, presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and lifestyle as a viable alternative to heterosexuality.
7. Appropriate executive orders, regulations and legislation banning the compiling, maintenance and dissemination of information on an individual's sexual preferences, behavior, and social and political activities for dossiers and data banks.
8. Federal funding of aid programs of gay men's and women's organizations designed to alleviate the problems encountered by Gay women and men which are engendered by an oppressive sexist society.


The 1972 Gay Rights Platform Platform created at the National Coalition of Gay Organizations Convention held in Chicago in 1972

 

[koshergrl]

Why did they want to repeal sexual consent age laws, do you suppose?

And why is the HIV infection rate among 13 year old boys increasing, do you suppose?

 

[bodecea]

Is the position of Chief Bottle Washer and Bootlicker open?

 

[g5000]

"The 1972 Gay Rights Platform contains among its demands the repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent, arguing that children as young as 8 years of age have the right to decide whether they they can enter into sexual relationships with adults," according to one pro-N piece.

A copy of the disputed platform--provided by the office of Rep. William E. Dannemeyer (R-Fullerton)--calls for "the repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent" but makes no mention of 8-year-olds being allowed to have sex with adults.

Further, officials at several nationally based gay groups said they are unfamiliar with the rights platform mentioned and that, despite the charges of critics, no one in the established gay community has ever called for the legalization of sex with children.

"To use something that some fringe political extremists in 1972 may have thought was an agenda item and compare it to today is completely misleading," said Robert Bray of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force in Washington. "That issue has never been discussed by anyone in the gay movement."

Gay 'Facts' in Mailers Disputed : Politics: A close look at claims made by anti-homosexual forces in a debate over the Irvine Human Rights Ordinance shows some distortion of facts and misstatements. - Los Angeles Times



If you have to go back to 1972 to some fringe group to "prove" some point about a "gay agenda", then you really have no case.


Show us that is the aim of the gay community at large today.

 

[martybegan]

"The 1972 Gay Rights Platform contains among its demands the repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent, arguing that children as young as 8 years of age have the right to decide whether they they can enter into sexual relationships with adults," according to one pro-N piece.

A copy of the disputed platform--provided by the office of Rep. William E. Dannemeyer (R-Fullerton)--calls for "the repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent" but makes no mention of 8-year-olds being allowed to have sex with adults.

Further, officials at several nationally based gay groups said they are unfamiliar with the rights platform mentioned and that, despite the charges of critics, no one in the established gay community has ever called for the legalization of sex with children.

"To use something that some fringe political extremists in 1972 may have thought was an agenda item and compare it to today is completely misleading," said Robert Bray of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force in Washington. "That issue has never been discussed by anyone in the gay movement."

Gay 'Facts' in Mailers Disputed : Politics: A close look at claims made by anti-homosexual forces in a debate over the Irvine Human Rights Ordinance shows some distortion of facts and misstatements. - Los Angeles Times



If you have to go back to 1972 to some fringe group to "prove" some point about a "gay agenda", then you really have no case.


Show us that is the aim of the gay community at large today.

What is the term? Its not the crime, its the cover-up.

NAMBLA was an active member of the early gay rights movement, and people such as Harry Hay were supporters of them remaining in the movement, even after the rest of the groups decided they were more a liability once they decided to start mainstreaming (something hay was against as well).

Its not a question of what the aims of the gay community are today, its that they are trying to whitewash thier past away.

 

[bodecea]

"The 1972 Gay Rights Platform contains among its demands the repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent, arguing that children as young as 8 years of age have the right to decide whether they they can enter into sexual relationships with adults," according to one pro-N piece.

A copy of the disputed platform--provided by the office of Rep. William E. Dannemeyer (R-Fullerton)--calls for "the repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent" but makes no mention of 8-year-olds being allowed to have sex with adults.

Further, officials at several nationally based gay groups said they are unfamiliar with the rights platform mentioned and that, despite the charges of critics, no one in the established gay community has ever called for the legalization of sex with children.

"To use something that some fringe political extremists in 1972 may have thought was an agenda item and compare it to today is completely misleading," said Robert Bray of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force in Washington. "That issue has never been discussed by anyone in the gay movement."

Gay 'Facts' in Mailers Disputed : Politics: A close look at claims made by anti-homosexual forces in a debate over the Irvine Human Rights Ordinance shows some distortion of facts and misstatements. - Los Angeles Times



If you have to go back to 1972 to some fringe group to "prove" some point about a "gay agenda", then you really have no case.


Show us that is the aim of the gay community at large today.

What is the term? Its not the crime, its the cover-up.

NAMBLA was an active member of the early gay rights movement, and people such as Harry Hay were supporters of them remaining in the movement, even after the rest of the groups decided they were more a liability once they decided to start mainstreaming (something hay was against as well).

Its not a question of what the aims of the gay community are today, its that they are trying to whitewash thier past away.

Who has?

 

[Moonglow]

Before women's suffrage, the age of consent was 10 in many US states.

 

[martybegan]

Gay 'Facts' in Mailers Disputed : Politics: A close look at claims made by anti-homosexual forces in a debate over the Irvine Human Rights Ordinance shows some distortion of facts and misstatements. - Los Angeles Times



If you have to go back to 1972 to some fringe group to "prove" some point about a "gay agenda", then you really have no case.


Show us that is the aim of the gay community at large today.

What is the term? Its not the crime, its the cover-up.

NAMBLA was an active member of the early gay rights movement, and people such as Harry Hay were supporters of them remaining in the movement, even after the rest of the groups decided they were more a liability once they decided to start mainstreaming (something hay was against as well).

Its not a question of what the aims of the gay community are today, its that they are trying to whitewash thier past away.

Who has?

Further, officials at several nationally based gay groups said they are unfamiliar with the rights platform mentioned and that, despite the charges of critics, no one in the established gay community has ever called for the legalization of sex with children.

Harry Hay:

"If the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what thirteen-, fourteen-, and fifteen-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world.

 

[koshergrl]

"The 1972 Gay Rights Platform contains among its demands the repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent, arguing that children as young as 8 years of age have the right to decide whether they they can enter into sexual relationships with adults," according to one pro-N piece.

A copy of the disputed platform--provided by the office of Rep. William E. Dannemeyer (R-Fullerton)--calls for "the repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent" but makes no mention of 8-year-olds being allowed to have sex with adults.

Further, officials at several nationally based gay groups said they are unfamiliar with the rights platform mentioned and that, despite the charges of critics, no one in the established gay community has ever called for the legalization of sex with children.

"To use something that some fringe political extremists in 1972 may have thought was an agenda item and compare it to today is completely misleading," said Robert Bray of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force in Washington. "That issue has never been discussed by anyone in the gay movement."

Gay 'Facts' in Mailers Disputed : Politics: A close look at claims made by anti-homosexual forces in a debate over the Irvine Human Rights Ordinance shows some distortion of facts and misstatements. - Los Angeles Times



If you have to go back to 1972 to some fringe group to "prove" some point about a "gay agenda", then you really have no case.


Show us that is the aim of the gay community at large today.

Oh, we don't have to go back to 1972 to prove that. But it is interesting that the stated goals then are exactly what the movement is still working for.

Though they use different, more friendly, terminology.

 

[koshergrl]

The National Coalition of Gay Organizations is a *fringe* group?

While I agree..all gay groups are *fringe* groups in our society...extremist loons and radicals...the NCGO is not considered *fringe* amongs the homo bloc..

 

[JakeStarkey]

Far more heterosexuals want and abuse you folks below the age of consent than homosexuals.

Anybody, however, who champions pedo-fascism must be marked, noted, and prosecuted where possible.

 

[koshergrl]

But still, the point is that this is still the drive and the push of the homo bloc:

"B4U-ACT, a Maryland-based organization of psychiatric practitioners, recently sponsored a conference that addressed the issue of how to destigmatize pedophilia."

Awesome!

"The conference was attended by Christofascist loser Matt Barber of the fringe right-wing Liberty Counsel Action. Any group that would take offense at a pedophilia conference is obviously a hate group."

So true.

"I’ve heard that all of the hate that society heaps on child molesters really makes them feel bad. Somebody has to stand up for them. Leave it up to Barber to malign this group for the crime of compassion. Only a real douchebag would fault these caring professionals for trying to remove the stigma associated with pedophilia."



"
Even though homosexuality and pedophilia bear no relation to each other–and the societal acceptance of the former will have no effect on the societal acceptance of the latter–the organization seems to be using the gay rights movement as a precedent. Odd. Dr. Fred Berlin, as quoted on their website:

“Just as has been the case historically with homosexuality, society is currently addressing the matter of pedophilia with a balance that is far more heavily weighted on the side of criminal justice solutions than on the side of mental health solutions.”
​

Just has been the case with homosexuality? Whoa! There’s no comparison there. It’s almost as if homosexuality is paving the way for all sorts of other perversions to become normalized, something that I insisted would never happen. Well, I can forgive Dr. Berlin in this instance because I know that he’s not a Christofascist who would try to use the linkage as a weapon against us. "

This really is a great piece. I think it's about a year old.
National Coalition of Gay Organizations | twogaybullies

 

[Coyote]

Before women's suffrage, the age of consent was 10 in many US states.

And who determined that? A bunch of white Christian men probably.

 

[koshergrl]

"...society has a lot of stereotypes about child molesters. Like that they’re sick, for example. And once we remove pedophilia as a sickness from the DSM, it just won’t be a sickness anymore. Anyone who still claims that it’s a sickness will be a science-hater. And you don’t want to be a science-hater…do you? Psychiatrists who still diagnose and treat pedophilia as a sickeness will have their licenses revoked. In other words, we’ll just do to them what we’ve done to people who still believe that homosexuality is a mental disorder. "

National Coalition of Gay Organizations | twogaybullies

 

[martybegan]

Far more heterosexuals want and abuse you folks below the age of consent than homosexuals.

Anybody, however, who champions pedo-fascism must be marked, noted, and prosecuted where possible.

The numbers may prove you right, but the hetero ones don't try to form political organizations based on who they want to bugger.

 

[koshergrl]

Before women's suffrage, the age of consent was 10 in many US states.

Are you proposing we return to that?

 

[koshergrl]

"When the National Coalition of Gay Organizations laid out its platform at its 1972 convention, they specifically demanded the “Repeal of all laws governing the age of consent.” Looking back on the historic document, I can see that they’ve achieved almost everything on their to-do list. Only a few items–such as the abolition of age of consent laws–still remain to be done."

Yup.

National Coalition of Gay Organizations | twogaybullies

 

[koshergrl]

[MENTION=30820]Moonglow[/MENTION]
"In Britain, the rainbow brigades have succeeded in lowering the age of consent for homosexual relations from twenty-one to eighteen, then again from eighteen to sixteen. Peter Tatchell of Britain’s OutRage! group is now pressing for fourteen as the age of consent for both homosexual and heterosexual relations. And who knows if they’ll be finished then? Eleven sounds pretty good. How about eight?"

Aren't we always being told we're less civilized than the rest of the world? There's your evidence, right there! Homosexual enlightenment reigns supreme!

National Coalition of Gay Organizations | twogaybullies

 

[bodecea]

Far more heterosexuals want and abuse you folks below the age of consent than homosexuals.

Anybody, however, who champions pedo-fascism must be marked, noted, and prosecuted where possible.

And 1 in 4 girls are sexually abused before they reach 18....by heterosexual men....OFTEN family members/friends.

But nothing to see here, folks.

 

[koshergrl]

Check this out...just the other day a poster on this board was saying that the LEGALIZATION OF CHILD PORN would result in LESS child sexual abuse...

"Peter Tatchell .....He's a giant in the British wing of the gay rights movement. He wants the age of consent to be lowered to fourteen. Tatchell argues that lowering the age of consent will reduce the incidence of child sexual abuse. So legalizing child sexual abuse is the best way to root it out. Makes sense to me."

National Coalition of Gay Organizations | twogaybullies