Reparations bill tests Biden and Harris on racial justice

[Sunsettommy]

themirrorthief
350,000 white soldiers died to free the slaves and a million more were wounded...

The Civil War was never about freeing enslaved Black Americans.

But thank you for only keeping my people enslaved for only 400 years. Sometimes I wonder do some if white people have any humanity.

Whites did not end slavery. They just figured out how to do it in a different context. The Emancipation Proclamation didn’t end slavery, the 13th Amendment did that.

The Emancipation Proclamation was a war tactic, enacted only in states in open rebellion, in response to the incredible numbers of enslaved persons fleeing plantations and taking up the Union cause.

Until the Proclamation, Blacks were legally considered contraband and were returned to Confederacy in prisoner exchanges. Also, many of these black men and women were serving the Union as spies, cooks, fort builders, and yes, soldiers.

In one swoop, Lincoln ended contraband exchanges and paved the way for Black soldiers to legally join the Army. And none too soon. The Union was losing badly until Blacks joined the effort. This fresh influx of Black soldiers won the Civil War. So the ancestors won their own freedom.

Also, keep in mind that according to the 13th Amendment, if you’re in prison, you can still be enslaved. What effect does this have on us today? Think about the prison industrial complex and it’s overwhelming entrapment of Black women and men. So no, “whites didn’t fight end slavery for “blacks.”

Slavery never ended. Chattel slavery was just first stage of white supremacy and racism.

You're POV is like praising the thief because he drove your stolen vehicle back to your house after using it to rob a bank.

Also many white abolitionists did not agree with slavery as an institution. I know this but they, themselves, were still white supremacists. They still believed blk ppl to be inferior and whites as superior.

Just because an animal rights activist might protest against cruelty to Fido the pit bull, that doesn’t mean that he wants to take him out for dinner and a movie.

themirrorthief
should their descendants also pay reparations...a better idea would give them beer and video game coupons

The first policy during the beginning of the Civil War was for the Union Army to return any Black slave who escaped during the war, back to southern plantation owners.

Also SLAVERY WAS IN THE NORTH too

Lincoln made it clear, at the on-set of war that, if he could maintain the union with slavery intact, he would. Lincoln was trying to preserve the Union because the South was getting too rich & powerful off of slavery that they were trying to exit from the Union accordingly.

So basically Lincoln said if he could save the union by keeping slavery,he would do it. That throws Lincoln the liberator right out the window

And its funny White people have a problem with slave reparations but they didn’t have a problem getting paid hundreds or dollars for every slave they owned that was freed.

And even after freedom white ppl act like racism just stopped.

Once slavery ended, former slaves and their descendants were then subjected to black codes, "legalized" segregation, lynchings, and being terrorized by the KKK. Not to mention slavery robbed black Americans and their enslaved ancestors of their sovereignty.

Your post is a lie since the Southern States produced their succession arguments that included preserving slavery as one of their reason for leaving the Union.

American Battlefield Trust

The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States

Georgia


Excerpt:

Under this equally just and beneficent policy law and order, stability and progress, peace and prosperity marked every step of the progress of these new communities until they entered as great and prosperous commonwealths into the sisterhood of American States. In 1820 the North endeavored to overturn this wise and successful policy and demanded that the State of Missouri should not be admitted into the Union unless she first prohibited slavery within her limits by her constitution. After a bitter and protracted struggle the North was defeated in her special object, but her policy and position led to the adoption of a section in the law for the admission of Missouri, prohibiting slavery in all that portion of the territory acquired from France lying North of 36 [degrees] 30 [minutes] north latitude and outside of Missouri. The venerable Madison at the time of its adoption declared it unconstitutional. Mr. Jefferson condemned the restriction and foresaw its consequences and predicted that it would result in the dissolution of the Union. His prediction is now history. The North demanded the application of the principle of prohibition of slavery to all of the territory acquired from Mexico and all other parts of the public domain then and in all future time. It was the announcement of her purpose to appropriate to herself all the public domain then owned and thereafter to be acquired by the United States. The claim itself was less arrogant and insulting than the reason with which she supported it. That reason was her fixed purpose to limit, restrain, and finally abolish slavery in the States where it exists. The South with great unanimity declared her purpose to resist the principle of prohibition to the last extremity. This particular question, in connection with a series of questions affecting the same subject, was finally disposed of by the defeat of prohibitory legislation.

The Presidential election of 1852 resulted in the total overthrow of the advocates of restriction and their party friends. Immediately after this result the anti-slavery portion of the defeated party resolved to unite all the elements in the North opposed to slavery an to stake their future political fortunes upon their hostility to slavery everywhere. This is the party two whom the people of the North have committed the Government. They raised their standard in 1856 and were barely defeated. They entered the Presidential contest again in 1860 and succeeded.
The prohibition of slavery in the Territories, hostility to it everywhere, the equality of the black and white races, disregard of all constitutional guarantees in its favor, were boldly proclaimed by its leaders and applauded by its followers.

With these principles on their banners and these utterances on their lips the majority of the people of the North demand that we shall receive them as our rulers.

The prohibition of slavery in the Territories is the cardinal principle of this organization.

For forty years this question has been considered and debated in the halls of Congress, before the people, by the press, and before the tribunals of justice. The majority of the people of the North in 1860 decided it in their own favor. We refuse to submit to that judgment, and in vindication of our refusal we offer the Constitution of our country and point to the total absence of any express power to exclude us. We offer the practice of our Government for the first thirty years of its existence in complete refutation of the position that any such power is either necessary or proper to the execution of any other power in relation to the Territories. We offer the judgment of a large minority of the people of the North, amounting to more than one-third, who united with the unanimous voice of the South against this usurpation; and, finally, we offer the judgment of the Supreme Court of the United States, the highest judicial tribunal of our country, in our favor. This evidence ought to be conclusive that we have never surrendered this right. The conduct of our adversaries admonishes us that if we had surrendered it, it is time to resume it.

The faithless conduct of our adversaries is not confined to such acts as might aggrandize themselves or their section of the Union. They are content if they can only injure us. The Constitution declares that persons charged with crimes in one State and fleeing to another shall be delivered up on the demand of the executive authority of the State from which they may flee, to be tried in the jurisdiction where the crime was committed. It would appear difficult to employ language freer from ambiguity, yet for above twenty years the non-slave-holding States generally have wholly refused to deliver up to us persons charged with crimes affecting slave property. Our confederates, with punic faith, shield and give sanctuary to all criminals who seek to deprive us of this property or who use it to destroy us. This clause of the Constitution has no other sanction than their good faith; that is withheld from us; we are remediless in the Union; out of it we are remitted to the laws of nations.

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In the link are links to the other seceding southern states documents.

They all state that Slavery is one of the main factors on why they left the union.

 

[Unkotare]

Has anything negative ever happened in your life - ever - that was YOUR OWN FAULT?

 

[RebelQueen]

Well then we should get reparations from Japan for Pearl Harbor. Even though the children we get it from, had nothing to do with it. It would be the same thing.

Now if you want to talk about museums that demonstrate how wrong slavery was. Or the affects it has on the generations that came after it, that would be a good place to put some funds. Those funds should be shared by all.

We need to remember where we came from and the history that we share, good and bad. Otherwise we're at risk of repeating it down the road.

Like everything else. Its a balancing act to do the right thing, and to make sure that we avoid doing bad things over and over.

 

[HaShev]

We need reperations from all the bad mayors and Senators they voted in because of their straight democrat vote and voting based on race=aka a racist method of choosing who you let govern yourselves just because you selfishly think of the biased benefits you might have to yourself and not your community or nation.

 

[RebelQueen]

Has anything negative ever happened in your life - ever - that was YOUR OWN FAULT?

More often than I care to remember, but remember I do, lest I do the same crud all over again.