Remind us again how we should wait till it is law to find out what is in the bill

[RetiredGySgt]

Senators resist Obama over projects in health bill - Yahoo! News

The Senate has no intention of removing special deals.

 

[sparky]

If this bill doesn't clearly portray the collusion of governance with big $$$ in America, and the total disconnect of it from the American people, i don't know what will Sarge

Issues go in the door of Congress here, and get trampled by special interests so hard that our legislator's ability is reduced to barganing for their small piece of the pork.

for instance, only 4% of Americans actually OPPOSE a public option, yet>>>

The one last hope for Senate Democratic leaders was to avoid a vote altogether on the public option, thereby relieving Senators of having to take a position and being exposed. But that trick would require the cooperation of all Senators -- any one Senator can introduce a public option amendment during the reconciliation and force a vote -- and it now seems that Bernie Sanders, to his great credit, is refusing to go along with the Democrats' sham and will do exactly that: ignore the wishes of the Senate leadership and force a roll call vote on the public option.

So now what is to be done? They only need 50 votes, so they can't use the filibuster excuse. They don't seem able to prevent a vote, as they tried to do, because Sanders will force one. And it seems there aren't enough Senate Democrats willing to vote against the public option after publicly saying all year long they supported it, which means it might get 50 votes if a roll call vote is held. So what is the Senate Democratic leadership now doing? They're whipping against the public option, which they pretended all year along to so vigorously support:





The Democrats' scam becomes more transparent - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

 

[Conspiracist]

That tepid salute underscores the prickliness with which many senators have greeted what they consider Obama's meddling in their business and raises questions about how successful the president will be in erasing the special projects from final legislation.
It also highlights a spat between a White House and Senate, dominated by the same party, that the president has ignited just as he needs to garner support to finally push his No. 1 legislative goal to passage over monolithic Republican opposition and nervous Democrats.

Though I disagree with passage of this bill, when I do agree with actions by our president his own party up there in Eliteville DC make him look bad. He wants special projects erased because it looks bad for his party and he wants to preserve as many Dem seats as possible come November. Funny, the Dems are upset about his meddling in THEIR business. Is it not everyone's business?

 

[saveliberty]

If this bill doesn't clearly portray the collusion of governance with big $$$ in America, and the total disconnect of it from the American people, i don't know what will Sarge

Issues go in the door of Congress here, and get trampled by special interests so hard that our legislator's ability is reduced to barganing for their small piece of the pork.

for instance, only 4% of Americans actually OPPOSE a public option,

For a Sparky, you aren't too bright. 4% of those polled made the public option their main reason for opposition to the bill. Quite different than, "only 4% oppose a public option".

RealClearPolitics - HorseRaceBlog - Does the Public Want a Public Option?

Looks like at least 40% oppose it.