Red states building a nation within a nation

new york has fallen behind texas in electors [based on population] and florida is closing fast...you know way too much that just isn't so

You’ve made no statement that in counter to my post that air conditioning has made the south tolerable to live and had seen population growth since. Where do you live?
 
I am a Democrat who acknowledges that the black underclass is a burden to the United States and especially to the Democrat Party. The Negro response to the civil rights legislation and the War on Poverty have led to increases in black social pathology. This has convinced most whites that the government cannot do any thing well.

The Democrats have been mistaken in suppressing criticism of Negroes. I suspect that much of the white hostility directed against the government and the Democrat Party is misplaced aggression that is really meant against Negroes.
Democrats screw up everything they touch and the Negroes continue to be their main voting block. That is pathetic when you think about it, isn't it?

The lure of welfare, lax criminal prosecution and minority ass kissing is a big draw for the Negroes to the filthy Democrat Party.

The best way not be poor is to not vote in Leftest with failed Leftest policies. Negroes are reluctant to learn that lesson. Their plight is their own damn fault.
 
Democrats screw up everything they touch and the Negroes continue to be their main voting block. That is pathetic when you think about it, isn't it?

The lure of welfare, lax criminal prosecution and minority ass kissing is a big draw for the Negroes to the filthy Democrat Party.

The best way not be poor is to not vote in Leftest with failed Leftest policies. Negroes are reluctant to learn that lesson. Their plight is their own damn fault.
as if tax cuts for the rich help the poor.
 
Democrats screw up everything they touch and the Negroes continue to be their main voting block. That is pathetic when you think about it, isn't it?

The lure of welfare, lax criminal prosecution and minority ass kissing is a big draw for the Negroes to the filthy Democrat Party.

The best way not be poor is to not vote in Leftest with failed Leftest policies. Negroes are reluctant to learn that lesson. Their plight is their own damn fault.
In October 15, 1964 the National Election Study performed a poll that indicated that 77% of the American people trusted the government to to the right thing most of the time.

In 1964 the national consensus was that the federal government, under the leadership of the Democrat Party, had ended the Great Depression, won the Second World War, and was managing an economy in which the standard of living for most Americans improved nearly every year.

Sen. Barry Goldwater ran against that consensus during the presidential campaign of 1964. He was buried in a landslide, in which President Johnson won 61% of the popular vote, and the Democrats won two to one majorities in both houses of congress.

Trust in the government has fluctuated since then. It has never gotten nearly that high again. According to Pew Research, in May 1, 2022 it was 20%.

Public Trust in Government: 1958-2022

Liberals would like to blame the loss of trust in the government on the War in Vietnam and the Watergate Scandal. The War in Vietnam ended in 1975. The Watergate Scandal ended a year earlier, with the resignation of Richard Nixon. Those were transitory events. I doubt many people think about them any more.

I suspect that the loss in trust in the government has happened mainly because of failures associated with the civil rights movement and the War on Poverty.

The New Deal of the Roosevelt administration turned unemployed whites into a stable working class of law abiding tax payers. The Great Society of the Johnson administration turned millions of low wage blacks into an unemployable underclass that supports itself with welfare checks and the gains from criminal activities.

An American Dilemma: The Negro Problem and Modern Democracy was published in 1944, and written by Gunnar Myrdal. He was a Swedish academic who later won the Nobel Prize in Economics.


In An American Dilemma Professor Myrdal acknowledged that blacks tend to perform less well academically than whites, and that they have higher rates of crime and illegitimacy. He blamed these on racial discrimination, and claimed that when blacks were no longer discriminated against most of them would begin to perform and behave as well as most whites.

An American Dilemma inspired the civil rights movement. It was cited in the 1954 Brown vs Board of Education Supreme Court Decision which found segregated schools to be un Constitutional.

For a very long time blacks have disappointed Dr. Myrdal's optimistic assessment of their potential. Black rates of crime are higher than they were in 1944. Black rates of illegitimacy are vastly higher. Black academic performance has improved little, despite expensive government spending programs like Head Start and No Child Left Behind.

Democrats view these failures as evidence that the government has not done enough to help blacks. Most whites see the failures as proof that the government had done far too much, and that blacks are responsible for their own problems, and many of ours.
 
A good summary of the movement to create a sub-culture (or sub-country really) within America by the right. Basically its another assault by the red states to suppress the rights of Americans within their state borders.. last time being Jim Crow. Everything old is new again, or history repeats itself if you prefer.

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Red states are building a nation within a nation - CNNPolitics

"It's not at the level of Jim Crow, or certainly the difference between slave states and free states, but the differences are major," says Jake Grumbach, a University of Washington political scientist who studies divergence among the states. And like Kettl, Grumbach believes the economic and political differences between the red and blue states are on track to only widen.

Seen as a whole, the red states' drive to set their own rules, while blocking any interference from either blue-leaning local governments or a Democratic-controlled federal government, represents the broadest effort to carve out a separate sphere of influence since the fierce resistance to reconstruction across the South after the Civil War that ultimately led to Jim Crow segregation, Kettl believes. In some respects, he argues, red states are displaying a greater separatist impulse today than the South did then.

For now, Kettl sees the initial red state Republican goal primarily as consolidating these new rules and blocking any interference -- what he calls "an effort to build very high castle walls with a very deep moat." But like Grumbach and other experts on state policy, Kettl is dubious that Republicans will settle for imposing their values solely on the states now under their control. As the red states pursue a more consistent and coordinated course, Kettl predicts that Republicans will "try to impose [this] policy on the nation as a whole" if they achieve the federal power to do so.

Blue states such as California, New York, Illinois and Colorado have moved forcefully over the past two years to expand many of the liberties now under siege in the red states. But congressional Republicans while in the minority have already introduced proposals that would apply the red state rules across the entire nation on many of these same issues. The new social order red states are now sketching behind their "castle" walls may offer the best preview of what Republicans will try to impose on all states the next time they achieve unified control of the White House and Congress in Washington.
What rights are they suppressing?
 
Making their states even worse places to live and invest is apparently a winning strategy for them. Oh well Amazon always needs more box stuffers.
Who is flooding this country with illegal aliens and thereby making things worse for the people who live here?
 
I've been saying it for weeks: We're going to look like the Middle East, with stark differences between the states based on the nature and intensity of their religious dogma.

I wonder how many of the rubes fully understand what they're backing.
That's funny coming from, a rube who doesn't fully understand what he's backing.
 
Yeah, I didn't think so.

Hey, by the way, kudos on that Orwell quote in your sig:

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

Donald Trump, July 25, 2018:

"Don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. … What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”

Wow. What a rube.
The fake news is not our eyes and ears.
 
Justice takes time, asshat.

Giving Boss Hogg Trump plenty of time to lie, rant & rave, whine, play the victim card, blame others, make counter accusations & con you rubes out of more cash.
6 years and counting……. :laughing0301: :itsok:
 
One Party believes in democracy, and the rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The other party wants a stratified society where while males rule and every one else knows "their place".
You don't believe in the right to life, liberty and happiness. Liar. If you did you wouldn't support killing babies in the womb. You jackals are mentally ill.
 
Like Calif, at one time they were nice places. btw, Calif income taxes are really progressive, so for normal folks, taxes may not be the biggest impediment. Texas .... they have armed guards in donut shops.
California has armed robbers every where.
 

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