Real Conspiracy..

[slackjawed]

 

[candycorn]

Motive for the 9/11 Attacks:

Brzezinski - The Grand Chessboard - American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997)

Pay attention to the maps and where we were back in 2008. You'll quickly realize what Obama and Biden meant when they promised during campaign speeches that they'll finish what Bush started in Central Asia.

Here's a couple of my favorite quotes:

From the Introduction:
"Eurasia is thus the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played, and that struggle involves geostrategy—the strategic management of geopolitical interests. It is noteworthy that as recently as 1940 two aspirants to global power, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, agreed explicitly (in the secret negotiations of November of that year) that America should be excluded from Eurasia. Each realized that the injection of American power into Eurasia would preclude his ambitions regarding global domination. Each shared the assumption that Eurasia is the center of the world and that he who controls Eurasia controls the world. A half century later, the issue has been redefined: will America's primacy in Eurasia endure, and to what ends might it be applied?

The ultimate objective of American policy should be benign and visionary: to shape a truly cooperative global community, in keeping with long-range trends and with the fundamental interests of humankind. But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the
purpose of this book."

This is from the conclusion, Page 107:

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"In the absence of a comparable external challenge, American society may find it much more difficult to reach agreement regarding foreign policies that cannot be directly related to central beliefs and widely shared cultural-ethnic sympathies and that still require an enduring and sometimes costly imperial engagement."


Wow. It looks like Brzezinski (Obama's most senior foreign policy advisor) got really lucky in 2001. His widely perceived external threat showed up on our doorstep and everything he recommended has coincidentally begun falling into place. it must be nice to be lucky like that.

Hmmmmmm....wow; that was bullshit.

Dude you have just shown your level of maturity and sense of ethics... Rather than do the right and correct adult thing, and either apologize or show some decency and just go away after your pathetic and immature display, you pretend the whole thing never happened and go after someone else... And why? To take the embarrassment off you and try to divert attention...

Twice now you have shown yourself an idiot, I think that's enough don't you? please do yourself a favor and leave me and my threads alone. I do not wish to spank an unruly child in front of everyone...

Who did you say you were again?

 

[eots]

cornycunt part of the drooling inept since 77

 

[gslack]

Hmmmmmm....wow; that was bullshit.

Dude you have just shown your level of maturity and sense of ethics... Rather than do the right and correct adult thing, and either apologize or show some decency and just go away after your pathetic and immature display, you pretend the whole thing never happened and go after someone else... And why? To take the embarrassment off you and try to divert attention...

Twice now you have shown yourself an idiot, I think that's enough don't you? please do yourself a favor and leave me and my threads alone. I do not wish to spank an unruly child in front of everyone...

Who did you say you were again?

Oh I'm the guy you have been trolling today... What so many to troll you can't remember junior?

Got any explanation for your behavior yet? Thought not, that would require some level of maturity...

Go ahead and try to act like its all just a joke. You came in here and started running off at the mouth like an idiot and showed your azz. Made a complete fool of yourself so now you want to do what my 13 year old does when caught doing something similar. Try and play the buffoon and pretend it was all some elaborate joke...

Well there is a joke in it alright... The joke is you... You are an imbecile and a juvenile little twerp as well. Now once more do yourself a favor and just go away before you make a worse fool of yourself...

 

[eots]

MOLTEN IRON BEAMS

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2YGFCeRfL4&feature=related]YouTube - WTC Cross melted together[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-99CLdHWCc&feature=related]YouTube - Ground Zero ironworkers on 9/11 anomalies[/ame]

 

[candycorn]

Dude you have just shown your level of maturity and sense of ethics... Rather than do the right and correct adult thing, and either apologize or show some decency and just go away after your pathetic and immature display, you pretend the whole thing never happened and go after someone else... And why? To take the embarrassment off you and try to divert attention...

Twice now you have shown yourself an idiot, I think that's enough don't you? please do yourself a favor and leave me and my threads alone. I do not wish to spank an unruly child in front of everyone...

Who did you say you were again?

Oh I'm the guy you have been trolling today... What so many to troll you can't remember junior?

Got any explanation for your behavior yet? Thought not, that would require some level of maturity...

Go ahead and try to act like its all just a joke. You came in here and started running off at the mouth like an idiot and showed your azz. Made a complete fool of yourself so now you want to do what my 13 year old does when caught doing something similar. Try and play the buffoon and pretend it was all some elaborate joke...

Well there is a joke in it alright... The joke is you... You are an imbecile and a juvenile little twerp as well. Now once more do yourself a favor and just go away before you make a worse fool of yourself...

I'm sorry...I really don't remember who you are.

Do you post here?

 

[gslack]

Who did you say you were again?

Oh I'm the guy you have been trolling today... What so many to troll you can't remember junior?

Got any explanation for your behavior yet? Thought not, that would require some level of maturity...

Go ahead and try to act like its all just a joke. You came in here and started running off at the mouth like an idiot and showed your azz. Made a complete fool of yourself so now you want to do what my 13 year old does when caught doing something similar. Try and play the buffoon and pretend it was all some elaborate joke...

Well there is a joke in it alright... The joke is you... You are an imbecile and a juvenile little twerp as well. Now once more do yourself a favor and just go away before you make a worse fool of yourself...

I'm sorry...I really don't remember who you are.

Do you post here?

yeah..... what a punk...

 

[Shorebreak]

Motive for the 9/11 Attacks:

Brzezinski - The Grand Chessboard - American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997)

Pay attention to the maps and where we were back in 2008. You'll quickly realize what Obama and Biden meant when they promised during campaign speeches that they'll finish what Bush started in Central Asia.

Here's a couple of my favorite quotes:

From the Introduction:
"Eurasia is thus the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played, and that struggle involves geostrategy—the strategic management of geopolitical interests. It is noteworthy that as recently as 1940 two aspirants to global power, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, agreed explicitly (in the secret negotiations of November of that year) that America should be excluded from Eurasia. Each realized that the injection of American power into Eurasia would preclude his ambitions regarding global domination. Each shared the assumption that Eurasia is the center of the world and that he who controls Eurasia controls the world. A half century later, the issue has been redefined: will America's primacy in Eurasia endure, and to what ends might it be applied?

The ultimate objective of American policy should be benign and visionary: to shape a truly cooperative global community, in keeping with long-range trends and with the fundamental interests of humankind. But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the
purpose of this book."

This is from the conclusion, Page 107:

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"In the absence of a comparable external challenge, American society may find it much more difficult to reach agreement regarding foreign policies that cannot be directly related to central beliefs and widely shared cultural-ethnic sympathies and that still require an enduring and sometimes costly imperial engagement."


Wow. It looks like Brzezinski (Obama's most senior foreign policy advisor) got really lucky in 2001. His widely perceived external threat showed up on our doorstep and everything he recommended has coincidentally begun falling into place. it must be nice to be lucky like that.

Hmmmmmm....wow; that was bullshit.

If it was bullshit, why has US foreign policy used it as a model for the past 10 years?

Answer: Because it's not bullshit and you have no other rebuttal except to make some silly noises and try to turn the class's attention away from the facts.

If you have a reasonable response, spell it out. Otherwise, follow gslack's advice and go troll someone else's thread.

 

[gslack]

Motive for the 9/11 Attacks:

Brzezinski - The Grand Chessboard - American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997)

Pay attention to the maps and where we were back in 2008. You'll quickly realize what Obama and Biden meant when they promised during campaign speeches that they'll finish what Bush started in Central Asia.

Here's a couple of my favorite quotes:

From the Introduction:
"Eurasia is thus the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played, and that struggle involves geostrategy—the strategic management of geopolitical interests. It is noteworthy that as recently as 1940 two aspirants to global power, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, agreed explicitly (in the secret negotiations of November of that year) that America should be excluded from Eurasia. Each realized that the injection of American power into Eurasia would preclude his ambitions regarding global domination. Each shared the assumption that Eurasia is the center of the world and that he who controls Eurasia controls the world. A half century later, the issue has been redefined: will America's primacy in Eurasia endure, and to what ends might it be applied?

The ultimate objective of American policy should be benign and visionary: to shape a truly cooperative global community, in keeping with long-range trends and with the fundamental interests of humankind. But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the
purpose of this book."

This is from the conclusion, Page 107:

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"In the absence of a comparable external challenge, American society may find it much more difficult to reach agreement regarding foreign policies that cannot be directly related to central beliefs and widely shared cultural-ethnic sympathies and that still require an enduring and sometimes costly imperial engagement."


Wow. It looks like Brzezinski (Obama's most senior foreign policy advisor) got really lucky in 2001. His widely perceived external threat showed up on our doorstep and everything he recommended has coincidentally begun falling into place. it must be nice to be lucky like that.

Sorry it took me so long to respond to your post... it was a great post and deserved better. I was stuck fighting the douchebag and neglected t ogive it proper attention.

yeah brzezinski seems to be lucky like that in a lot of things...

Just like Kissinger and a few other of the more slippery types who seem to be able to advise both parties presidents over the years.... I found it very funny that Kissinger was the "bad guy" advisor to Reagan by most democrats in the 80's, but now he's the "good guy" mentor to Obama... And the band keeps playing....

 

[Shorebreak]

Sorry it took me so long to respond to your post... it was a great post and deserved better. I was stuck fighting the douchebag and neglected t ogive it proper attention.

yeah brzezinski seems to be lucky like that in a lot of things...

Just like Kissinger and a few other of the more slippery types who seem to be able to advise both parties presidents over the years.... I found it very funny that Kissinger was the "bad guy" advisor to Reagan by most democrats in the 80's, but now he's the "good guy" mentor to Obama... And the band keeps playing....

Did you know that when Obama wrote his thesis paper on Russian Nuclear Disarmament while he was studying poly-sci at Columbia, the Dean of Russian Studies was Zbigniew Brzezinski?

Wow! Another lucky break for Zbig! One of his former students promises to finish Zbig's "Grand Chessboard" strategy that Bush started, if he gets elected President!

And after appointing Zbig as his senior foreign policy advisor, Obama is expanding the Eurasian fronts as though "The Grand Chessboard" were his personal policy map.

What a coincidence! And none of that would have happened if we didn't have public support to invade Afghanistan. Another coincidence!

With 9/11, Zbig got his external perceived threat, he got support from the American people to do something Imperialistic that would have otherwise been opposed, he gets to see all of his maps and arrows come into place during the Bush Administration, and now he gets to be senior policy advisor to his former student who has promised to finish everything that Bush has started in Eurasia! What luck!!!!

Motive for 9/11? The only people who don't understand or see it are those who cannot stand to understand or see it.

 

[candycorn]

Motive for the 9/11 Attacks:

Brzezinski - The Grand Chessboard - American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997)

Pay attention to the maps and where we were back in 2008. You'll quickly realize what Obama and Biden meant when they promised during campaign speeches that they'll finish what Bush started in Central Asia.

Here's a couple of my favorite quotes:

From the Introduction:
"Eurasia is thus the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played, and that struggle involves geostrategy—the strategic management of geopolitical interests. It is noteworthy that as recently as 1940 two aspirants to global power, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, agreed explicitly (in the secret negotiations of November of that year) that America should be excluded from Eurasia. Each realized that the injection of American power into Eurasia would preclude his ambitions regarding global domination. Each shared the assumption that Eurasia is the center of the world and that he who controls Eurasia controls the world. A half century later, the issue has been redefined: will America's primacy in Eurasia endure, and to what ends might it be applied?

The ultimate objective of American policy should be benign and visionary: to shape a truly cooperative global community, in keeping with long-range trends and with the fundamental interests of humankind. But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the
purpose of this book."

This is from the conclusion, Page 107:

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"In the absence of a comparable external challenge, American society may find it much more difficult to reach agreement regarding foreign policies that cannot be directly related to central beliefs and widely shared cultural-ethnic sympathies and that still require an enduring and sometimes costly imperial engagement."


Wow. It looks like Brzezinski (Obama's most senior foreign policy advisor) got really lucky in 2001. His widely perceived external threat showed up on our doorstep and everything he recommended has coincidentally begun falling into place. it must be nice to be lucky like that.

Hmmmmmm....wow; that was bullshit.

If it was bullshit, why has US foreign policy used it as a model for the past 10 years?

Answer: Because it's not bullshit and you have no other rebuttal except to make some silly noises and try to turn the class's attention away from the facts.

If you have a reasonable response, spell it out. Otherwise, follow gslack's advice and go troll someone else's thread.

So are you going to do anything about this latest conspiracy you see or not?

 

[gslack]

So are you going to do anything about this latest conspiracy you see or not?

So.... How long is mom going to let play on the computer today? I bet you are one of those home-schooled little twerps.... The kind that mom kept home because you were getting picked on..... Awww don't worry little fella, they just don't know how special you are.....

 

[Shorebreak]

Hmmmmmm....wow; that was bullshit.

If it was bullshit, why has US foreign policy used it as a model for the past 10 years?

Answer: Because it's not bullshit and you have no other rebuttal except to make some silly noises and try to turn the class's attention away from the facts.

If you have a reasonable response, spell it out. Otherwise, follow gslack's advice and go troll someone else's thread.

So are you going to do anything about this latest conspiracy you see or not?

Don't worry about it - it's not your issue.

 

[gslack]

Sorry it took me so long to respond to your post... it was a great post and deserved better. I was stuck fighting the douchebag and neglected t ogive it proper attention.

yeah brzezinski seems to be lucky like that in a lot of things...

Just like Kissinger and a few other of the more slippery types who seem to be able to advise both parties presidents over the years.... I found it very funny that Kissinger was the "bad guy" advisor to Reagan by most democrats in the 80's, but now he's the "good guy" mentor to Obama... And the band keeps playing....

Did you know that when Obama wrote his thesis paper on Russian Nuclear Disarmament while he was studying poly-sci at Columbia, the Dean of Russian Studies was Zbigniew Brzezinski?

Wow! Another lucky break for Zbig! One of his former students promises to finish Zbig's "Grand Chessboard" strategy that Bush started, if he gets elected President!

And after appointing Zbig as his senior foreign policy advisor, Obama is expanding the Eurasian fronts as though "The Grand Chessboard" were his personal policy map.

What a coincidence! And none of that would have happened if we didn't have public support to invade Afghanistan. Another coincidence!

With 9/11, Zbig got his external perceived threat, he got support from the American people to do something Imperialistic that would have otherwise been opposed, he gets to see all of his maps and arrows come into place during the Bush Administration, and now he gets to be senior policy advisor to his former student who has promised to finish everything that Bush has started in Eurasia! What luck!!!!

Motive for 9/11? The only people who don't understand or see it are those who cannot stand to understand or see it.

Well the very idea that people still believe there is a real difference in the end result of who is president astounds me...

GW was elected as a conservative, but he turned out a centrist. obama a liberal who has become a centrist, Clinton was so center he was the middle. ANd with all of them no matter what they said or claimed, and no matter what the bills or legislation was supposed to be, all of it played off of what went before all leading us to the same end. Bush started the bailouts and obama continued them. Tell me what the chances are of that happening with two such different and opposing platforms?

its not possible if things were as they claim or say.

No repeal of the patriot act even mentioned after election, when it was all the talk before hand. no action on anything but health care and climate change which are both socialist changes and adhering to the centrist way.

Party politics is the show to keep us bickering while they whittle away at our rights and liberty.

 

[slackjawed]

If it was bullshit, why has US foreign policy used it as a model for the past 10 years?

Answer: Because it's not bullshit and you have no other rebuttal except to make some silly noises and try to turn the class's attention away from the facts.

If you have a reasonable response, spell it out. Otherwise, follow gslack's advice and go troll someone else's thread.

So are you going to do anything about this latest conspiracy you see or not?

Don't worry about it - it's not your issue.

Well, you guys could join in with christophera's court filing to expose the treason and subsequent cover up.

 

[slackjawed]

Party politics is the show to keep us bickering while they whittle away at our rights and liberty.

I left the important part.

Well said!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Wow...you may be doing the impossible..making the world think that Curvelight has a long lost twin.

To address a couple of your points...

Steel bems didn't melt; just weakened.
Fireproofing was compromised by the impact of the planes.

Thats as far as I read before I decided you were not worth the effort.

So a guy selling loans for someone with his avatar who didn't actually read what I posted, has decided in his all-knowing way that despite not reading it and not understanding it he should comment and pass judgement nonetheless.....

okay thank you... Now if you aren't going to read it why bother to reply to it? Seems ignorant and a waste of time to me.... or are just trolling to get your ad shown in enough threads?

pretty much everybody that debates candycorn is able to find out immediately that he just comes to these boards to troll.He goes to all these different message boards everywhere and posts non stop like 14 hours a day and digs up long old dead threads all the time.Candycorn troll boy and slackass are the biggest trolls you'll find at this site.

 

[slackjawed]

Wow...you may be doing the impossible..making the world think that Curvelight has a long lost twin.

To address a couple of your points...

Steel bems didn't melt; just weakened.
Fireproofing was compromised by the impact of the planes.

Thats as far as I read before I decided you were not worth the effort.

So a guy selling loans for someone with his avatar who didn't actually read what I posted, has decided in his all-knowing way that despite not reading it and not understanding it he should comment and pass judgement nonetheless.....

okay thank you... Now if you aren't going to read it why bother to reply to it? Seems ignorant and a waste of time to me.... or are just trolling to get your ad shown in enough threads?

pretty much everybody that debates candycorn is able to find out immediately that he just comes to these boards to troll.He goes to all these different message boards everywhere and posts non stop like 14 hours a day and digs up long old dead threads all the time.Candycorn troll boy and slackass are the biggest trolls you'll find at this site.

Just to remind everyone who 911 is and what he stands for;

"Hell anybody who espresses their support against the GOVERNMENT of the united states I support.anybody who declares themselves to be an emeny of the USA is smart "-911insidejob, USMB 3/6/2010


lotta credibility there............

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The "why" is really the thing here. It will give us the "how" and "why" if we can establish a legitimate and compelling reason why, the rest will fall into place and force a realization, and isn't that what this is all about? We are after truth and a punishment of the guilty.. Right?? Of course we are...

Again we have our brief list of possible reasons why...

1. Money. Insurance money, stock market money, investment money, war money, you name it its all effected.

2. Control through fear. Oldest trick in the book of modern government. Used in every way imaginable to do nearly anything you can think of.

3. Support for a war. Another classic and old stand by since the first governments and leaders.

4. The Twin towers were a real estate failure of epic proportions and they wanted to get out of it. To do so and not raise suspicion they had to do something so shocking no one would ask questions. The cost to rent or lease there was astronomical and only a select few could afford it. Which brought their costs up even greater.

5. Asbestos removal costs were more than the real world value of the towers, and adding the costs to update them to current safety standards put the thing beyond any possible gain. So they again had to do something shocking to get out of it and recover some of their losses.

once more the list is very brief and meant to give an example only.

Well looking at the list above we are again confronted by the scope and all-encompassing nature of such a situation. And once more we can say "all the above" be about as right as if we picked one from the list. This entire investigation has become an exercise in futility now...

Sure GW could have done it, or they could have planted explosives, or they could have wanted to be rid of the failed real estate and recoup some losses, and hell maybe it was a insurance scam of epic proportions. or maybe, just maybe it was all of the above "whos", "hows", and "whys"... maybe all of it compounded together and they got an outsider to do the deed to insure plausible deniability. And so what does all of this mean?

It means everything and it means nothing. Everything in the sense all of it in some aspect or another could be true and factual and some very evil beings are in power. And nothing in the sense of what we can do about it, who we can hold accountable, and who or how we can punish them accordingly.

if we could find the person responsible and narrow it down to them beyond all doubt; what would the punishment be to fit this horrendous act? Death? Life in prison? Public service? A monetary compensation??? Well I don't think any of these would quite cut it. All of them still leave me with a feeling there needs to be more, or that it must be more fitting the nature and scope of the crime they committed. But we are then faced with the reality there is no punishment to fit this crime we can be satisfied with, that will not lower us to the level of those who did it.

To fit a punishment to such a crime would require something of us all. A bit of our soul, a piece of our humanity; a piece we desperately cannot give up in such times as these. Our humanity must remain intact if this is the kind of thing we are to combat in the future. Without it we will soon find ourselves as the monsters we fight. Sure those involved in this lack that humanity, but is it worth losing our own to route them out if that is even possible? I don't think so...

The reality is, the conspirators, perpetrators and those responsible are protecting one another as if it were their own necks on the chopping block. They know if one falls then so go them all. There will never be a single conviction, official charges or accusations made on any party, group or individual which could have actually been involved no matter how severe or slight their role. The only ones ever blamed, accused or convicted will be deliberate sacrificial lambs, and or outside parties. That is the very core of any coup, secret government conspiracy or cover-up or anything similar in any fashion to this.

Look at all similar scenarios of conspiracy or cover-up in the past and you can notice a pattern. First there is a lot of speculation and random finger pointing, a stark contrast to a real crime investigation. The police do not do such things when investigating a murder. They keep the statements they make regarding the subject limited to facts. Second, they soon after have a suspect that is so completely compelling very few will doubt it. And third, they set up a committee to investigate their hypothesis and suspects. Notice the committee is already working under the assumptions of how and who prior to the proceedings.... Yeah, thats why the Warren Commission, and 9/11 Commission reports are so screwed up. They aren't there to investigate who or how, but to tell everyone the official story and what they are going to claim.

That's why there is no concise and clear answer that is both logical and reasonable without some serious dancing from so many of the faithful. it's not supposed to do that, its supposed to protect those involved and place a buffer that will make any real investigation impossible from the outside. The committees aren't "in" on it, they don't have to be because they are doing their job. And their job is limited prior to accepting the task.

These are but two examples of this form of fallacy. We have so many others throughout history as testament to this. We have the investigations over Nazi war crimes which for some unknown reason left out a great many scientists and researchers who conducted the atrocities. We have the investigations of trading with the enemy during WWII where a Bank was closed but the guilty parties in charge of the bank were left free and clear. We have the sinking of the Lusitania which is now widely regarded as a contrived event to get us into WWI, which is ignored to this day.

So what are we to do? Where are we to turn?

(to be continued....)

getting back to the topic at hand here,good stuff,good thread.

 

[candycorn]

So a guy selling loans for someone with his avatar who didn't actually read what I posted, has decided in his all-knowing way that despite not reading it and not understanding it he should comment and pass judgement nonetheless.....

okay thank you... Now if you aren't going to read it why bother to reply to it? Seems ignorant and a waste of time to me.... or are just trolling to get your ad shown in enough threads?

pretty much everybody that debates candycorn is able to find out immediately that he just comes to these boards to troll.He goes to all these different message boards everywhere and posts non stop like 14 hours a day and digs up long old dead threads all the time.Candycorn troll boy and slackass are the biggest trolls you'll find at this site.

Just to remind everyone who 911 is and what he stands for;

"Hell anybody who espresses their support against the GOVERNMENT of the united states I support.anybody who declares themselves to be an emeny of the USA is smart "-911insidejob, USMB 3/6/2010


lotta credibility there............

He'll be the only one at his funeral....guaranteed.