Prospective impeachment oath violations: GOP senators caught between a rock and a hard place

[ABikerSailor]

Actually, Pelosi has threatened to withhold campaign funds from any Democrat in the House of Representatives who doesn't vote for impeachment...

And to release the funds to any Democrat that votes FOR impeachment!!!

Can we say BRIBERY???

Any Democrat in the House of Representatives that SELL THEIR VOTE should be ARRESTED AND PUT ON TRIAL FOR ACCEPTING BRIBES IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE VOTE IS CONCLUDED, AND THEIR VOTE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD!!!

Got a link to back this up?

 

[Nostra]

Any senator who has proclaimed their impeachment voting position ahead of the Senate impeachment trial is in danger of violating their oath and being expelled from jury duty by the Chief Justice.

It is arguable that a number of GOP senators are publicly stating that they will not abide by their oath of office, nor the oath for the impeachment trial.

Is it indeed possible that the Chief Justice will disqualify GOP senators form the impeachment jury on the basis that their public statements imply they are falsely swearing the oath for the trial?

Has McConnell and Graham and their ilk actually disqualified themselves from the impeachment jury?

It is an interesting argument that GOP senators could be violating their oaths ahead of the swearing-in of the jury in order to be disqualified from the impeachment jury so they are not seen to be voting for impeachment.

Or, could senators who are publicly supporting Trump be able to justify flipping and their vote to impeach or a non-vote by claiming the oath made them do it.

May you live in interesting times.

How Will Republican Senators Honor Their Impeachment Oaths? | Washington Monthly

How Will Republican Senators Honor Their Impeachment Oaths?
by Martin LongmanDecember 16, 2019POLITICAL ANIMAL

It’s not often that I cite William Kristol favorably, but he and Jeffrey Tulis have an important piece in The Bulwark. It focuses on an important constitutional requirement of any impeachment trial.

The key to the system working as it should is the understanding that the Senate as a court of impeachment is a different institution than the Senate as usual. When the Senate moves to become an impeachment court, senators take a new oath. At that moment the institution transforms itself.

That’s why, according to Article I, section 3, clause 6 of the Constitution, senators, when sitting on a trial of impeachment, “shall be on Oath or Affirmation.” Of course, when elected to the Senate, all senators swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. But the senators, when sitting as a court, are asked to take an additional oath. It is a juror’s and judge’s oath—not a legislator’s oath.

Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials provides the text: “I solemnly swear (or affirm) that in all things appertaining to the trial of ____, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help me God.”

The exact wording of the oath could be changed, but the oath itself is the Senate’s answer to language of the Constitution itself. I don’t think modern Americans take oaths very seriously compared to our ancestors, but they used to be something people were very reluctant to break. ...

These Dimwinger Senators announced their position well before the Schitt Show started:

Fauxcohontas Warren
Commie Bernie
Spartacus Booker
Kamaltoe Harris.

I will await your outrage.............................

Anyone else notice how Denizen wimped out on this?

 

[JustAGuy1]

Any senator who has proclaimed their impeachment voting position ahead of the Senate impeachment trial is in danger of violating their oath and being expelled from jury duty by the Chief Justice.

It is arguable that a number of GOP senators are publicly stating that they will not abide by their oath of office, nor the oath for the impeachment trial.

Is it indeed possible that the Chief Justice will disqualify GOP senators form the impeachment jury on the basis that their public statements imply they are falsely swearing the oath for the trial?

Has McConnell and Graham and their ilk actually disqualified themselves from the impeachment jury?

It is an interesting argument that GOP senators could be violating their oaths ahead of the swearing-in of the jury in order to be disqualified from the impeachment jury so they are not seen to be voting for impeachment.

Or, could senators who are publicly supporting Trump be able to justify flipping and their vote to impeach or a non-vote by claiming the oath made them do it.

May you live in interesting times.

How Will Republican Senators Honor Their Impeachment Oaths? | Washington Monthly

How Will Republican Senators Honor Their Impeachment Oaths?
by Martin LongmanDecember 16, 2019POLITICAL ANIMAL

It’s not often that I cite William Kristol favorably, but he and Jeffrey Tulis have an important piece in The Bulwark. It focuses on an important constitutional requirement of any impeachment trial.

The key to the system working as it should is the understanding that the Senate as a court of impeachment is a different institution than the Senate as usual. When the Senate moves to become an impeachment court, senators take a new oath. At that moment the institution transforms itself.

That’s why, according to Article I, section 3, clause 6 of the Constitution, senators, when sitting on a trial of impeachment, “shall be on Oath or Affirmation.” Of course, when elected to the Senate, all senators swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. But the senators, when sitting as a court, are asked to take an additional oath. It is a juror’s and judge’s oath—not a legislator’s oath.

Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials provides the text: “I solemnly swear (or affirm) that in all things appertaining to the trial of ____, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help me God.”

The exact wording of the oath could be changed, but the oath itself is the Senate’s answer to language of the Constitution itself. I don’t think modern Americans take oaths very seriously compared to our ancestors, but they used to be something people were very reluctant to break. ...

You guys need to give it up, NOTHING is going to come of this.

 

[MisterBeale]

When a chief justice reminded senators in an impeachment trial that they were not jurors
When a chief justice reminded senators in an impeachment trial that they were not jurors

Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, shown in this video image, presides in the impeachment trial of President Clinton on the Senate floor, Feb. 8, 1999, in Washington. AP Photo/APTN)

 

[lennypartiv]

You know, it's really stupid for them to say that they are going to vote against impeachment before they hear the evidence at a trial.

No it's not. Dems could have saved us a lot of time by cancelling the unneeded impeachment hearings in the House.

 

[basquebromance]

we will hold Trump accountable for his stunning abuse of power. we will hold him accountable for undermining our national security. we will hold him accountable for corrupting our democracy.

we will impeach Donald John Trump, my friends!

 

[Denizen]

Any senator who has proclaimed their impeachment voting position ahead of the Senate impeachment trial is in danger of violating their oath and being expelled from jury duty by the Chief Justice.

It is arguable that a number of GOP senators are publicly stating that they will not abide by their oath of office, nor the oath for the impeachment trial.

Is it indeed possible that the Chief Justice will disqualify GOP senators form the impeachment jury on the basis that their public statements imply they are falsely swearing the oath for the trial?

Has McConnell and Graham and their ilk actually disqualified themselves from the impeachment jury?

It is an interesting argument that GOP senators could be violating their oaths ahead of the swearing-in of the jury in order to be disqualified from the impeachment jury so they are not seen to be voting for impeachment.

Or, could senators who are publicly supporting Trump be able to justify flipping and their vote to impeach or a non-vote by claiming the oath made them do it.

May you live in interesting times.

How Will Republican Senators Honor Their Impeachment Oaths? | Washington Monthly

How Will Republican Senators Honor Their Impeachment Oaths?
by Martin LongmanDecember 16, 2019POLITICAL ANIMAL

It’s not often that I cite William Kristol favorably, but he and Jeffrey Tulis have an important piece in The Bulwark. It focuses on an important constitutional requirement of any impeachment trial.

The key to the system working as it should is the understanding that the Senate as a court of impeachment is a different institution than the Senate as usual. When the Senate moves to become an impeachment court, senators take a new oath. At that moment the institution transforms itself.

That’s why, according to Article I, section 3, clause 6 of the Constitution, senators, when sitting on a trial of impeachment, “shall be on Oath or Affirmation.” Of course, when elected to the Senate, all senators swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. But the senators, when sitting as a court, are asked to take an additional oath. It is a juror’s and judge’s oath—not a legislator’s oath.

Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials provides the text: “I solemnly swear (or affirm) that in all things appertaining to the trial of ____, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help me God.”

The exact wording of the oath could be changed, but the oath itself is the Senate’s answer to language of the Constitution itself. I don’t think modern Americans take oaths very seriously compared to our ancestors, but they used to be something people were very reluctant to break. ...

You guys need to give it up, NOTHING is going to come of this.

Why is Donald Trump so fearful and frantic.

Trump supporters are sleeping on soggy mattresses.