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And they did melt in 2007... they just froze again come winter. Like they do every year.
True, but he also mentioned the sea would rise 12m (which it hasn't) and that NY would be under water, which it's not..
And they did melt in 2007... they just froze again come winter. Like they do every year.
True, but he also mentioned the sea would rise 12m (which it hasn't) and that NY would be under water, which it's not..
well, do you think he was wrong about the melting ice caps? or was he just wrong about the timeline?
True, but he also mentioned the sea would rise 12m (which it hasn't) and that NY would be under water, which it's not..
well, do you think he was wrong about the melting ice caps? or was he just wrong about the timeline?
Well, they were pretty sure 50 years ago too, and nothing happened.
I'm neither for nor against global warming per se, but I do object strongly to shit being put in the atmosphere for pollution's sake alone, let alone if it is affecting the planet's heat...
fair enough. my feeling on the subject is that the stuff we put out there clearly isn't helping and if we can be better stewards of the planet, we should be.
And they did melt in 2007... they just froze again come winter. Like they do every year.
well, do you think he was wrong about the melting ice caps? or was he just wrong about the timeline?
Well, they were pretty sure 50 years ago too, and nothing happened.
I'm neither for nor against global warming per se, but I do object strongly to shit being put in the atmosphere for pollution's sake alone, let alone if it is affecting the planet's heat...
fair enough. my feeling on the subject is that the stuff we put out there clearly isn't helping and if we can be better stewards of the planet, we should be.
Three big companies quit an influential lobbying group that had focused on shaping climate-change legislation, in the latest sign that support for an ambitious bill is melting away.
Reuters
BP PLC and two other major firms quit a lobbying group focused on shaping global-warming policy.
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Several companies are quitting an influential lobbying group focusing in on legislation, despite the administratin's push to use the budget to pass greenhouse gas legistlation. WSJ's Grainne McCarthy reports in the News Hub.
.Oil giants BP PLC and ConocoPhillips and heavy-equipment maker Caterpillar Inc. said Tuesday they won't renew their membership in the three-year-old U.S. Climate Action Partnership, a broad business-environmental coalition that had been instrumental in building support in Washington for capping emissions of greenhouse gases.
The move comes as debate over climate change intensifies and concerns mount about the cost of capping greenhouse-gas emissions.
fair enough. my feeling on the subject is that the stuff we put out there clearly isn't helping and if we can be better stewards of the planet, we should be.
More or less my take on it. I read a good five years ago that if you gave every human being one square metre, they'd all fit into Texas. Putting that into perspective, that ain't a lot of the planet. And if you look at even the most crowded cities in the world on the satellite image of Google maps, most have a tonne of green space around them. Even some of those smog ridden cities in Europe have huge areas of greenery...the juries out IMO
Well, they were pretty sure 50 years ago too, and nothing happened.
I'm neither for nor against global warming per se, but I do object strongly to shit being put in the atmosphere for pollution's sake alone, let alone if it is affecting the planet's heat...
fair enough. my feeling on the subject is that the stuff we put out there clearly isn't helping and if we can be better stewards of the planet, we should be.
But that is socialism or the great evil to business or the great evil for personal freedom or it cots too much etc.
when i see people cheering for pollution because they somehow see it as pro corporate, it kind of turns my stomach.
fair enough. my feeling on the subject is that the stuff we put out there clearly isn't helping and if we can be better stewards of the planet, we should be.
More or less my take on it. I read a good five years ago that if you gave every human being one square metre, they'd all fit into Texas. Putting that into perspective, that ain't a lot of the planet. And if you look at even the most crowded cities in the world on the satellite image of Google maps, most have a tonne of green space around them. Even some of those smog ridden cities in Europe have huge areas of greenery...the juries out IMO
i don't know about the one square metre. but i do know that drinkable water is starting to be an issue in some places. and food sources are going to become increasingly difficult to find. we're over-fishing our seas and generally upsetting the balance of the eco-system.
if we're going to keep being able to sustain ourselves, those things need to be addressed, too. draughts are more frequent as are progressively severe weather patterns. not all of it is controllable. and not all of it is fatal to humankind. but we can be reasonable.
when i see people cheering for pollution because they somehow see it as pro corporate, it kind of turns my stomach.
And they did melt in 2007... they just froze again come winter. Like they do every year.
