Poll: If you could send, a message back in time telling the people of Germany, not to let Hitler take away their guns, would you?

[nawpar]

If we give the government the power to take away our guns, there will be another holocaust.

 

[surada]

If we give the government the power to take away our guns, there will be another holocaust.

Hitler took guns from Socialists, communists, Jews and Democrats. Don't assume he took guns away from ordinary Germans and Nazis.

 

[JoeB131]

If we give the government the power to take away our guns, there will be another holocaust.

Hitler never took away their guns. In fact, the Nazis REPEALLED the Weimar era gun laws.

And this funny thing happened. Not a single German rushed out to stop the SS from rounding up the Jews. Nor did they form mass groups against the Nazis. Nope, they took those guns they were allowed to keep and they formed "Volksgrenadier" brigades made up of old men and little boys to fight to the last man for their Fuhrer.

Conversely, when the US started rounding up Japanese-Americans in 1942, not a single American rushed out with their guns and opposed it.

 

[Votto]

If we give the government the power to take away our guns, there will be another holocaust.

Government will find a way to have a genocide either way, but yes, people are better off armed.

 

[Lisa558]

Hitler took guns from Socialists, communists, Jews and Democrats. Don't assume he took guns away from ordinary Germans and Nazis.

And then it freed him up to go after his defenseless victims.

 

[Lisa558]

Who voted “no” in the poll - and would NOT have warned Jews to hold onto their guns?

 

[1srelluc]

Hitler never took away their guns. In fact, the Nazis REPEALLED the Weimar era gun laws.

And this funny thing happened. Not a single German rushed out to stop the SS from rounding up the Jews. Nor did they form mass groups against the Nazis. Nope, they took those guns they were allowed to keep and they formed "Volksgrenadier" brigades made up of old men and little boys to fight to the last man for their Fuhrer.

Conversely, when the US started rounding up Japanese-Americans in 1942, not a single American rushed out with their guns and opposed it.

Half truth at best.

The Weimar Republic’s well-intentioned gun registry became a tool for evil.

he perennial gun-control debate in America did not begin here. The same arguments for and against were made in the 1920s in the chaos of Germany’s Weimar Republic, which opted for gun registration. Law-abiding persons complied with the law, but the Communists and Nazis committing acts of political violence did not.

In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group.

In 1933, the ultimate extremist group, led by Adolf Hitler, seized power and used the records to identify, disarm, and attack political opponents and Jews. Constitutional rights were suspended, and mass searches for and seizures of guns and dissident publications ensued. Police revoked gun licenses of Social Democrats and others who were not “politically reliable.”

During the five years of repression that followed, society was “cleansed” by the National Socialist regime. Undesirables were placed in camps where labor made them “free,” and normal rights of citizenship were taken from Jews. The Gestapo banned independent gun clubs and arrested their leaders. Gestapo counsel Werner Best issued a directive to the police forbidding issuance of firearm permits to Jews.

In 1938, Hitler signed a new Gun Control Act. Now that many “enemies of the state” had been removed from society, some restrictions could be slightly liberalized, especially for Nazi Party members. But Jews were prohibited from working in the firearms industry, and .22 caliber hollow-point ammunition was banned.

The time had come to launch a decisive blow to the Jewish community, to render it defenseless so that its “ill-gotten” property could be redistributed as an entitlement to the German “Volk.” The German Jews were ordered to surrender all their weapons, and the police had the records on all who had registered them. Even those who gave up their weapons voluntarily were turned over to the Gestapo.

How the Nazis Used Gun Control | National Review

 

[shockedcanadian]

Hitler never took away their guns. In fact, the Nazis REPEALLED the Weimar era gun laws.

And this funny thing happened. Not a single German rushed out to stop the SS from rounding up the Jews. Nor did they form mass groups against the Nazis. Nope, they took those guns they were allowed to keep and they formed "Volksgrenadier" brigades made up of old men and little boys to fight to the last man for their Fuhrer.

Conversely, when the US started rounding up Japanese-Americans in 1942, not a single American rushed out with their guns and opposed it.

That's the reality.

I know some suggest that being armed is to confront a tyrannic government, but I really don't buy it. I'm not saying it's not a cosideration but it was certainly more viable and accurate at the time it was written into your Constitution, but it's far fetched in 2022.

As I see it, the reason Americans want guns today is for self defense, protection of their loved ones and for those who hunt. That's it. It's as legitimate as any, there is no need to suggest the rising up of people against the government, though in more desperate times anything is possible.

You'd be far better off with the support of your military in the event of tyranny. This is why military and their leaders must remain a reflection of a nations most patriotic and those loyal to your Constitution.

 

[JoeB131]

Who voted “no” in the poll - and would NOT have warned Jews to hold onto their guns?

Um, probably wouldn't have done any good.

Hey, Goldstein has a gun and the SS has a tank. Um... yeah, Tank beats gun.

Lets leave aside that most of the Jews of Germany and Austria survived the war, because they either fled the country before the war started or they were considered just German enough to not be killed. So 75% of the pre-war German and Austrian Jews survived.

Most of the ones who did get killed were from countries that the Germans defeated (especially Poland) or countries that allied with Germany that were happy to rid themselves of their Jewish populations (Like Hungary and Romania).

 

[JoeB131]

That's the reality.

I know some suggest that being armed is to confront a tyrannic government, but I really don't buy it. I'm not saying it's not a cosideration but it was certainly more viable and accurate at the time it was written into your Constitution, but it's far fetched in 2022.

As I see it, the reason Americans want guns today is for self defense, protection of their loved ones and for those who hunt. That's it. It's as legitimate as any, there is no need to suggest the rising up of people against the government, though in more desperate times anything is possible.

You'd be far better off with the support of your military in the event of tyranny. This is why military and their leaders must remain a reflection of a nations most patriotic and those loyal to your Constitution.

Four years of Trump has convinced me that American Democracy is a façade. A guy the majority never wanted is STILL reeking havoc on our political institutions. The Generals didn't stand up to Trump unless he suggested doing something really crazy, like shooting protestors.

Wanting a gun to fight the government is stupid. The government has tanks and bombers.
Wanting a gun to defend your home is equally stupid. A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.
Wanting a gun to hunt just shows you are a fucking psychopath who enjoys murdering animals.

As for what the dead Slave Rapists wanted... 1) Who cares? and 2) They didn't want armed mobs running around, either. That's why the Second Amendment specifies WELL_REGULATED MILITIAS. When angry mobs started showing up with guns, the Founding Slave Rapists went in with their militias and put them down, such as Shay's Rebellion or the Whiskey Rebellion.

 

[22lcidw]

If we give the government the power to take away our guns, there will be another holocaust.

We are the last nation or at least part of it where the globalists have not taken complete control because of guns. They are finding other ways around it. They have been patient, but they see blood and are going in for the kill. We get tested like with Ukraine by them and at first, we citizens backed Ukraine up. We are malleable.

 

[candycorn]

If we give the government the power to take away our guns, there will be another holocaust.

There really doesn't need to be another holocaust, gun nuts are rubbing people out by the truckload daily. And we chalk it up to "freedom" in this nation.

 

[Moonglow]

If we give the government the power to take away our guns, there will be another holocaust.

Hitler did not take away guns of Germans, only Jews.

 

[Moonglow]

There really doesn't need to be another holocaust, gun nuts are rubbing people out by the truckload daily. And we chalk it up to "freedom" in this nation.

You mean the same freedoms enjoyed no matter which party is in power?

 

[Moonglow]

We are the last nation or at least part of it where the globalists have not taken complete control because of guns. They are finding other ways around it. They have been patient, but they see blood and are going in for the kill. We get tested like with Ukraine by them and at first, we citizens backed Ukraine up. We are malleable.

They have guns in other nations, where do you get your misinformation?

 

[cnm]

Conversely, when the US started rounding up Japanese-Americans in 1942, not a single American rushed out with their guns and opposed it.

Citizen. Please. Let's not bring historical facts into this discussion.

 

[cnm]

We are the last nation or at least part of it where the globalists have not taken complete control because of guns.

The wilful parochial ignorance really starts to hurt after a while.

Oh well.

 

[AZrailwhale]

There really doesn't need to be another holocaust, gun nuts are rubbing people out by the truckload daily. And we chalk it up to "freedom" in this nation.

Show me where a "gun nut" has murdered anyone? the people doing almost all of the murdering are real nuts who should be locked up in asylums and convicted criminals who should be locked up in prisons for their prior actions. Your typical "gun nut" has his very valuable weapons safely stored to protect them from theft, goes to the range to terrorize paper targets, or hunts animals for food or "sport" (personally I'm against most "sport" hunting, but it's a free country and some people find shooting a deer from several hundred meters a challenge. I used to know an NCO who was a real sport hunter. He bow-hunted bear. He refused to carry a backup pistol. That means he stalked an animal that was faster, stronger and had better senses than he did. That's sport, it's giving the bear an even chance or even an advantage.

 

[candycorn]

Show me where a "gun nut" has murdered anyone?

Uvalde, Buffalo, Santa Fe, TX, Las Vegas, San Antonio, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Sandy Hook, Columbine,

the people doing almost all of the murdering are real nuts who should be locked up in asylums and convicted criminals who should be locked up in prisons for their prior actions. Your typical "gun nut" has his very valuable weapons safely stored to protect them from theft, goes to the range to terrorize paper targets, or hunts animals for food or "sport" (personally I'm against most "sport" hunting, but it's a free country and some people find shooting a deer from several hundred meters a challenge.

Until someone pisses them off or a woman has the audacity to tell them, "no".

I used to know an NCO who was a real sport hunter. He bow-hunted bear. He refused to carry a backup pistol. That means he stalked an animal that was faster, stronger and had better senses than he did. That's sport, it's giving the bear an even chance or even an advantage.

 

[TNHarley]

Hitler did not take away guns of Germans, only Jews.

Most of the Jews were German, you freaking idiot