Poles angry as German tanks are junk

[ESay]

That I live is only a kind of collateral damage. In WW1+2 the USA and their allies murdered millions of Germans and wiped out many German nations. Reason for: still unknown. I guess "you" liked to eliminate the German speaking minority in the USA.

What I would like is to remind you in a hundredth time that I have nothing to do with the US.

 

[ESay]

It's hard to say who were the bigger anti-semites, the germans or the poles. Do you know what fate of the most of the prisoners of Sobibor, who escaped from the death camp after the uprising had? Almost all of them were caught and handed over to germans or killed by polish peasants. Moreover, after the war, AFTER, the poles killed the few surviving Jews who returned home, with the slogans "Let's finish what Hitler didn't finish"

It is the matter between the Poles and Jews. And they should find a way to get over that. You in Russia had better mind your own business.

 

[Ringo]

August 18, 2022 Polskie Radio Original Jedynka - polskieradio.pl

Poland can seize the political initiative from the current European leader — Germany, said Polish professor Piotr Grohmalski. In an interview with Polskie Radio, he noted that Poland is increasing its military potential and will soon ensure the security of NATO's eastern flank. The army is a "currency of influence" that will allow Poland to take a place on the European landscape alongside Germany and France, the scientist believes.

The German newspaper Die Welt writes that today Poland is stronger than ever, and the military conflict in Ukraine has turned it into a central player in European politics. Polish professor Piotr Grohmalski calls this diagnosis correct, only somewhat belated. The expert recalls that the economic miracle in Germany after 2004 was directly led by the accession of Poland and Central European countries to the EU. "Only then did the German economy get back on its feet," he stressed in an interview with Polskie Radio.
According to the professor, today it is Poland and the Visegrad Group* that are responsible for most of Germany's trade turnover. "The Visegrad Group is, in principle, the most important for the functioning of the German and European economies," he added.

Grohmalsky noted that for German journalists, the news that Poland with a population of 38 million is one of the largest EU countries is not particularly pleasant. Soon, with the most powerful army in Europe, Poland will be able to secure the eastern flank of NATO. "... And they would like Poland to be at their complete disposal...", he explained.

The fact that Poland has become the central partner of US security policy in Europe, according to the professor, is already clearly visible. The attitude towards Poland in the international arena is also changing, its "currency of influence" is the army, and everyone understands that it has the potential to stand next to the key EU countries — Germany and France. "Hence the concern of Brussels and this aggressive policy," he stressed.

"Germany relied on economic domination, but this model in the situation of confrontation with aggressive Russia turned out to be wrong. Should the European States to expect that Germany will urge Russia to pacifism? The bitter truth is much more important now. At the moment, Russia is a real threat ...", — stated the professor.
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For a while I tried to remember what it reminds me of.
Then I remembered - this:

...And during 1934, Poland completely stopped military cooperation with France — all Polish military orders were transferred to Sweden and England.
The Polish ambassador to France Lipsky then said:
"From now on Poland does not need France. She also regrets that she agreed to accept French aid at the time, in view of the price she will have to pay for it."..

And this:

"... The official Polish military doctrine, prepared in 1938, read as follows:
"The dismemberment of Russia is at the heart of Polish policy in the East... Therefore, our possible position will be reduced to the following formula: who will take part in the section. Poland should not remain passive at this remarkable historical moment. The task is to prepare well in advance physically and spiritually... The main goal is to weaken and defeat Russia"..."

And this:

"...Here is what German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop wrote after a meeting in January 1939 with his Polish counterpart Jozef Beck: "Mr. Beck does not hide that Poland claims Soviet Ukraine and access to the Black Sea..."

And most importantly - this:

"The national triumph in Poland on the occasion of the capture of the Tesha region resembled the ancient Roman one! Jozef Beck was awarded the Order of the White Eagle, in addition, the "grateful" Polish intelligentsia awarded him the title of honorary doctor of the Warsaw and Lviv Universities. Polish propaganda was choking with delight. On October 9, 1938, Gazeta Polska wrote: “... the road open before us to a sovereign, leading role in our part of Europe requires enormous efforts and the resolution of incredibly difficult tasks in the near future”…

One-on-one practically with the current Polish dreamers.
It is not for nothing that the current Poland considers itself the successor of the one, as the Poles themselves call it, the "Second Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth".
In general, Poland is STRONG!!!
Somehow it is even inconvenient to remind that then "the road open before us to a sovereign, leading role in our part of Europe" less than a year after the publication of these boastful lines ended with another disappearance of Poland from the map in political geography...

 

[zaangalewa]

What I would like is to remind you in a hundredth time that I have nothing to do with the US.

And what do you have to do with Poland, Germany and/or Europe and the rest of the world?

 

[zaangalewa]

August 18, 2022 Polskie Radio Original Jedynka - polskieradio.pl

Poland can seize the political initiative from the current European leader — Germany, said Polish professor Piotr Grohmalski. ...

What a bullshit. The idea that someone is able to lead Europe is nothing else than bullshit. Germany for sure never had been the leader of Europe. Europe is the leader of Europe. So whatever Poland likes to seize has absolutelly nothing to do with Germany.

The German newspaper Die Welt writes ...

"Die Welt" is part of the Springer-press - or with other words: a newpaper which is 100% loyal to the USA and 1% loyal to Germany. And this article here from Piotr Grohmalski speaks about to let the USA defend the EU - with the mighty leading nation Poland on their side. But for the people in the USA it is totally unimportant when Europe will sink down into a nuclear hell. So what likes Mr. Grohmalski to defend? A neverending war? Europe needs Russia - Russia needs Europe. And we need a free Ukraine ... And Europe needs to continue the peaceful way of Europe ... Poland is on its own not a very good example for a free country and needs more freedom. And if Donald Trump will win in 2024 and become the first roi-soleil of the USA then freedom in the USA and the rest of the world will become a very rare good.

 

[ESay]

And what do you have to do with Poland, Germany and/or Europe and the rest of the world?

With Poland and Germany? Nothing. Except the fact that I think my country should form a common defence alliance with Poland to confront Russia.

 

[zaangalewa]

With Poland and Germany? Nothing. Except the fact that I think my country should form a common defence alliance with Poland to confront Russia.

So your country is not a member of the NATO and likes to become a member of the NATO. A defence alliance is by the way defending and not confronting. And nothing else did do the NATO. The NATO not had been agressive. Russia is an aggressor and this means now a shield goes high and a sword is ready to use.

The best solution now is Russia will leave the Ukraine and we all will forget this stupid and senseless intermezzo because Putin likes not to accept his own personal evanescene - which he is not able to compensate with a nice gravestone or a white pyramid filled with dead slaves. What a poor tragedy did you cause for so many innocent people, Putin!!! On what damned reason, asshole??? Also Russian soldiers have mothers, idiot!!!

 

[Ringo]

The NATO not had been agressive.

What planet are you came from so recently?

 

[zaangalewa]

What planet are you came from so recently?

The NATO is a defense alliance. A very strong defense alliance protecting hundreds of millions people. Nations ask the NATO to become a member. The NATO not conquers other countries. What do you call aggression in case of the NATO? The red lines it makes which no one has to overstep? Who attacks any member of the NATO attacks all members of the NATO.

 

[Ringo]

What do you call aggression in case of the NATO?

Yugoslavia, Lybia as most disgusting cases of NATO aggression. And don't tell me about "protection". Even Hitler began his aggression under the cover of protection of the germans in Czechoslovakia.

 

[zaangalewa]

Yugoslavia,

I never understood what really had happened in Yugoslavia - but I know an old German soldier who told me long long years before it had happened what will happen there when Tito will die. And it came exactly in this way. Nevertheless had to be stopped the mass-murdering crimes in Yugoslavia. Whoelse was able to try to do so except the NATO?

Lybia as most disgusting cases of NATO aggression.

No idea what had happened in Lybia. ... One moment ... Whatever had happened in Lybia I'm able to see in a short view that all important nations and institutions of the world had been envolved. So I only don't know what was going wrong there. Very dissapointing for me is in this context that many Arabian countries tried to establish democracies in a movement which is known under the expression "Arabian spring". But the movements of the people there failed or lost - and now exist in all of this countries autocracies or tyrannies. And if I see what is happening now in the moment in Mali where Russia works together with a new military dictatorship to strengthen the power of Islamists there and to make impossible an UNO-intervention then I ask myselve what's wrong with Russia in general.

And what for heavens sake is this strange Russian military organisation "Wagner"? And do you like to provoke a world war? Why this silly attacks on a nuclear power plant in the Ukraine? Do you play with the perverted idea to produce a kind of "innocent" nuclear attack within Europe?

And don't tell me about "protection". Even Hitler began his aggression under the cover of protection of the germans in Czechoslovakia.

What was not an incorrect interpretation of the situation in Czechoslovakia how you can see very well in the name "Chechoslovakia" on its own. The normal name had to be "Czechogermanoslovakia". The Germans had been the second biggest group of people at this moment of history. But Germans had lived in this area a long time before the first Slaws arrived there. When Germans ruled this area the Slaws always had been able to use their own language - also in front of judges and everything else what had to do with government - for long long centuries. The use of the German language in Chechoslovakia was suddenly forbidden because of an unmotivated hate of the Slaws against the Germans there. This mad situation - which the allies of world war 1 had created - made specially in this region many Germans to extremists who supported the Nazis. After world war 2 the Bohemians and others had been murdered and/or displaced. One of the oldest and most important German tribes was dead. Afterwards the Czechs and the Slovaks - meanwhile also seperated because they hate each other - learned "to love" the Russians - specially in 1968 when the Soviets occupied Czechoslovakia to fight against their "socialism with a human face". Question: Is anything else than hate on the political way of the Russians?