Planned Parenthood receives record amount of Fed support. $542 Million.

[koshergrl]

45 percent of PP's funding comes via taxes.

"
Planned Parenthood reported receiving a record $542 million in taxpayer support in fiscal 2012, marking a steady increase in government funding despite Republican-led efforts at the state and federal levels to cut off that stream.


The funding figures were included in the abortion provider's annual report released Monday. The numbers showed roughly 45 percent of Planned Parenthood's budget now comes from taxpayer dollars. "

"The latest annual report also showed Planned Parenthood performed nearly 334,000 abortions in 2011, which The Susan B. Anthony List said was a record."

""Planned Parenthood has spent much of the last few years demanding that taxpayers add millions more to their coffers, citing their non-profit status and so-called focus on women's health. What have we received for our money? While government subsidies to Planned Parenthood have reached an all time high, so too has the number of lives ended by this profit-driven abortion business..."

Planned Parenthood receives record amount of taxpayer support | Fox News

Pro-abortion ghouls claim that the money doesn't go towards abortions..that it's used for the OTHER services...

Which happen as addendums to abortions.

Lol. Nice racket, if you can get in. Get government $$$$ for killing babies and exploiting, lying to, and abusing women. Awesome!

 

[HenryBHough]

If human sacrifice and abortion are interchangeable terms then PP is a religion and here comes that pesky constitutional issue.

Or it would come if we still had a constitution.

 

[hazlnut]

With all the Women's Health Clinics being closed in Red States, I say we give Planned Parenthood $500 Billion so they can open clinics at every state line and mobile clinics that make trips to high schools and junior colleges delivering crates of Plan B.

I'm for drive-thu abortion clinics.

I believe this is a conservative stance. If we can not feed a child, provide proper care, and if we don't have enough jobs for 8% of our population -- why would we bring more children into the world?

Conservatism means safe and sensible. Logical economics. Allowing poor women to terminate their pregnancy makes conservative sense.

The belief that every baby should just be born and we'll figure out how to care for them and maintain them for a lifetime is a fantasy -- which, IMO, is liberal overly compassionate thinking. Every life is sacred is liberal thinking -- not mature grown up conservatism.

 

[kaz]

Conservatism means safe and sensible. Logical economics. Allowing poor women to terminate their pregnancy makes conservative sense.

However, government funding it is not conservative. Government paying for people to subvert their personal responsibility is not going to teach people personal responsibility no matter how you slice it.

 

[HenryBHough]

If people started accepting responsibility for their actions The Democrat Party would go out of business.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Conservatism means safe and sensible. Logical economics. Allowing poor women to terminate their pregnancy makes conservative sense.

However, government funding it is not conservative. Government paying for people to subvert their personal responsibility is not going to teach people personal responsibility no matter how you slice it.

In addition, funding abortion with taxpayer money isn't conservative either. Though, I hear pro-choice advocates wanting to "keep the government from between the legs" but are happily taking in government subsidies. Quite the conundrum to be honest.

 

[koshergrl]

"Planned Parenthood's “billing policies routinely instructed clinic staff to enter billing codes for certain services, regardless of whether patients' charts recorded that such service was actually provided.”

That's how they use the federal $$.

It's for abortion. But they lie and say it's for services that are not actually provided. Like STD screenings, mammograms, stuff like that.

The funny thing..they still CHARGE women for the ABORTION, claiming that there is no federal funding for abortion.

So they get money from the women...and then they get money from the government for stuff they don't actually do.

Planned Parenthood Pays Hefty Settlement in Texas Medicaid Fraud Case

 

[hazlnut]

Conservatism means safe and sensible. Logical economics. Allowing poor women to terminate their pregnancy makes conservative sense.

However, government funding it is not conservative. Government paying for people to subvert their personal responsibility is not going to teach people personal responsibility no matter how you slice it.

Conservative means practical, getting the most bang for your buck. Maximum efficiency. No waste.

Conservative means dealing with reality like an adult -- not buying into some fantasy "abstinence only" education program.

We are sexual beings. We are hard-wired to have sex and make more babies. If the first story in the bible teaches us anything it's that people, especially young people, WILL have sex no matter what the consequences. If GOD himself can not dissuade horny teens from screwing, then how insanely arrogant of man to think that we will do a better job than God.

I'm all for allowing every baby to be born, but then we need to change the way we look at welfare in this country. People have to become okay with creating a larger dependency class that will never work at a meaningful occupation or make any real contribution to society. We have to be okay with supporting a greater number of those people either via welfare or through prisons.

My position is based on the fact that most Anti-Abortion hardliners are coming from a religious perspective-- cherry-picking (as always) lines of scripture to justify their furious rage towards abortion clinics and passion for the unborn.

If you take the bible and religion out of it, and deal solely with the numbers, this is what's left:

1) Abstinence only education approach is a proven failure -- people will always have sex even when they know they are acting irresponsibly or against the wishes of their caretakers -- just like Adam and Eve.

2) an abortion procedure costs us nothing compared to a lifetime of welfare or prison housing. Unwanted children end up in the juvenile justice system and then the adult justice system -- costing us hundreds of thousands if not millions per habitual offender / repeat offender.

Why not prevent pregnancies with Plan B and stop the underclasses from overbreeding by offering free abortions on demand within legal parameters of viability. Stop the underclass from having babies that are neglected and abused.

That is the conservative approach -- sensible and compassionate.

Note: I would define the underclass as any person or any color living below or near the poverty line -- unable to care for a child with minimal government assistance.

 

[koshergrl]

Nobody says that people shouldn't have sex.

We just object to the state killing babies. That's the long and short of it.

 

[hazlnut]

In addition, funding abortion with taxpayer money isn't conservative either.

Your statement is false.

Funding abortions is not in line with what "Religious Conservatives" believe-- like many of their beliefs, they are contrary to the notion of a true conservative thinker.

But take liberal religion and liberal-minded fantasy thinking out of it and deal strictly with the economics of poverty and unwanted children and a REAL conservative knows that fully funding every abortion is pragmatic and sensible.

 

[chikenwing]

With all the Women's Health Clinics being closed in Red States, I say we give Planned Parenthood $500 Billion so they can open clinics at every state line and mobile clinics that make trips to high schools and junior colleges delivering crates of Plan B.

I'm for drive-thu abortion clinics.

I believe this is a conservative stance. If we can not feed a child, provide proper care, and if we don't have enough jobs for 8% of our population -- why would we bring more children into the world?

Conservatism means safe and sensible. Logical economics. Allowing poor women to terminate their pregnancy makes conservative sense.

The belief that every baby should just be born and we'll figure out how to care for them and maintain them for a lifetime is a fantasy -- which, IMO, is liberal overly compassionate thinking. Every life is sacred is liberal thinking -- not mature grown up conservatism.

wow you are one scary person,bet you wouldn't like if we said your not economically worth being alive.

 

[koshergrl]

In addition, funding abortion with taxpayer money isn't conservative either.

Your statement is false.

Funding abortions is not in line with what "Religious Conservatives" believe-- like many of their beliefs, they are contrary to the notion of a true conservative thinker.

But take liberal religion and liberal-minded fantasy thinking out of it and deal strictly with the economics of poverty and unwanted children and a REAL conservative knows that fully funding every abortion is pragmatic and sensible.

The only people who don't want poor minorities to have babies are the leftist ghouls like you.

Sorry, you don't get to use the government to do your dirty work. If you want to kill babies, you'll just have to go to school and become an abortion clinician!

 

[koshergrl]

Oh..wait..no schooling needed.

 

[Kosh]

With all the Women's Health Clinics being closed in Red States, I say we give Planned Parenthood $500 Billion so they can open clinics at every state line and mobile clinics that make trips to high schools and junior colleges delivering crates of Plan B.

I'm for drive-thu abortion clinics.

I believe this is a conservative stance. If we can not feed a child, provide proper care, and if we don't have enough jobs for 8% of our population -- why would we bring more children into the world?

Conservatism means safe and sensible. Logical economics. Allowing poor women to terminate their pregnancy makes conservative sense.

The belief that every baby should just be born and we'll figure out how to care for them and maintain them for a lifetime is a fantasy -- which, IMO, is liberal overly compassionate thinking. Every life is sacred is liberal thinking -- not mature grown up conservatism.

Far left propaganda!

 

[Kosh]

In addition, funding abortion with taxpayer money isn't conservative either.

Your statement is false.

Funding abortions is not in line with what "Religious Conservatives" believe-- like many of their beliefs, they are contrary to the notion of a true conservative thinker.

But take liberal religion and liberal-minded fantasy thinking out of it and deal strictly with the economics of poverty and unwanted children and a REAL conservative knows that fully funding every abortion is pragmatic and sensible.

Even more far left propaganda!

 

[kaz]

If you take the bible and religion out of it, and deal solely with the numbers, this is what's left:

1) Abstinence only education approach is a proven failure -- people will always have sex even when they know they are acting irresponsibly or against the wishes of their caretakers -- just like Adam and Eve.

2) an abortion procedure costs us nothing compared to a lifetime of welfare or prison housing. Unwanted children end up in the juvenile justice system and then the adult justice system -- costing us hundreds of thousands if not millions per habitual offender / repeat offender.

You're mixing abortions and government funding abortions. What I said, and meant, is that you don't teach personal responsibility by taking people's personal responsibility away from them. There is nothing conservative about going in and saying wow, you didn't keep your legs together, you didn't use birth control, now you don't want the baby? Well, government will take care of that for you...

 

[hazlnut]

Nobody says that people shouldn't have sex.

We just object to the state killing babies. That's the long and short of it.

Again, you're applying that overly sensitive liberal religious thinking when you say "killing babies" -- like the liberal demanding more money for food stamps and school lunches your appealing to peoples adoration of babies, infants, and children in general to make your case.

We all love kids, they're beautiful and no one wants to harm them. However, let's deal with some facts:

Abortions within the parameters of viability do not result in any infant deaths. Just a compassionate medical procedure that terminates the pregnancy. Often not pleasant, but usually quick and relatively painless.

Plan B isn't even messy. -- Plan B should be Plan A for young women all over this country.


Abortion on demand could drastically reduce the cycle of domestic violence in this country -- unwanted children are abused and grow to procreate and abuse their own unwanted children. One generation after another of unfit parents abusing innocent children because that's how they were raised. God's will? Hardly.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Conservative means practical, getting the most bang for your buck. Maximum efficiency. No waste.

As opposed to liberal, which means being impractical, getting no bang for big bucks. Maximum inefficiency. Lots of waste.

Conservative means dealing with reality like an adult -- not buying into some fantasy "abstinence only" education program.

Liberal means dealing with reality like a teenager, "the world owes ME something" they say. Back in my grandmother's day, they were all about jobs, not funding irresponsibility.

We are sexual beings. We are hard-wired to have sex and make more babies. If the first story in the bible teaches us anything it's that people, especially young people, WILL have sex no matter what the consequences. If GOD himself can not dissuade horny teens from screwing, then how insanely arrogant of man to think that we will do a better job than God.

Oddly enough, I think this society is oversexed. Obsessed with sex. You statement doesn't speak for the thousands of women who get raped, just because humans happen to be "sexual" beings. It doesn't speak for all the folks who have one night stands in hotel rooms and having children that they don't want to take care of. Ya know, in Leviticus, the penalty for rape was death, not a stint in jail.

 

[kaz]

Abortion on demand could drastically reduce the cycle of domestic violence in this country -- unwanted children are abused and grow to procreate and abuse their own unwanted children. One generation after another of unfit parents abusing innocent children because that's how they were raised. God's will? Hardly.

I totally disagree with this. We are training another sector of the country that if they don't take responsibility for their own actions then government will do it for them. You are increasing the "need" for abortions by doing that, and many of them won't get them so you're increasing welfare recipients at the same time. You've come up with a lose-lose plan...

 

[kaz]

Conservative means practical, getting the most bang for your buck. Maximum efficiency. No waste.

As opposed to liberal, which means being impractical, getting no bang for big bucks. Maximum inefficiency. Lots of waste.

I always like the, you're not a true libertarian/conservative because you're not a liberal argument...