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You'r pitiful. Bye.Im just trying to educate you. You didn’t know that H1N1 was influenza. It happens.Move on. Pitiful.Incorrect. H1N1 was just one of many influenza viruses.It's not the same as the common flu virus, that's why there are two distinct numbers for deaths. You got caught cheating. Typical leftist asswipe liar.H1N1 is an influenza virus. You’re confused.You're confused. You've confused the H1N1 death numbers with influenza numbers. Try again.You're confused.34000 > 12000 is it not?More than that died from the flu when Obungo was President. You're hilariousNope, I'm blaming Obungo for doing nothing and being responsible for over 12,000 American deaths.Are you blaming Trump for saving lives?Correct. He didn't do shit. He was leading from behind. That's why thousands of Americans died.I don’t know. Obama didn’t need a $2 trillion stimulus to deal with H1N1. Did he?And Obama totally failed with the H1N1 virus compared to Trump.Just because it moved out of the country of origin, doesn’t mean it isn’t containable. You can contain the few that slip through the cracks. You can’t do that when you let anybody who wants to come over from an outbreak region. Do you not see why that would be a problem? It wasn’t just a problem for the either, that shit came over to New York, our biggest hub for European travel, and now NY is looking at 3000 cases that’s gonna probably be 10000 in a couple of days.Oh Jesus, Italy has more elderly, and the family units are stronger. A lot of grandparents live with the family and if they don’t they are visited more often. Also, some politicians in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a “hug a Chinese person day” during a pandemic to show how woke you are. That obviously didn’t work out for a lot of people. Goes to show you how seriously some of the politicians were taking this, they weren't, they were trying to score political points...a lot like the OP topic. And wrong again, the entire EU is being rocked. Italy is just the most staggering example of what happens when politicians don’t take shit seriously.For that to have worked for Italy, the entire EU would’ve had to restrict travel. Europe is a pandemics wet dream. Tons of public transport, that’s used often, people with money and time to travel, hostels, tightly packed cities, tons of tourist attractions. Italy’s travel ban was useless. Which is why I said the EU needed too. I mean I shouldn’t have to say what I just said because one should be able to pretty easily logically deduce why a travel ban worked in USA but not in Italy. Just look at the evidence staring you in the face. You can contain the few carriers that slip through the cracks of the flights banned to a region that came through other regions...you can’t contain the 30 or so carriers a day traveling coming in from direct flights to your region.Not exactly.You're a liar. The President shut down travel from China on January 31st and Democrats criticized him for it.Right...trump caused a global economic collapse...used his narcissism to will a brand new disease to jump from bats to humans...and then used inception to go into the dreams of the Chinese and leaders of the EU and plant the idea that they should wait a month too late to ban travel because it would be seen as racist. Good analysisI think it’s unanimous that the Dims are betting on a total collapse to further their political agenda, however, it’s a two sided sword which will come back and cut deep. One can only hope voters recognize this when they cast their vote.
Funny how when it’s time to bailout Autos, banks, big business, it’s the American thing to do when Dim sits at the desk.
The collapse is already here. Putins boy asswipe made it happen. I warned you and yours about him, but you wouldn't listen. CORPORATE RACKETEERS MAKE VERY BAD PRESIDENTS.....
Asswipe didn't address the problem early enough. He was more concerned about his reelection.
He restricted foreign nationals from entering the country who had been to the affected region. Americans and immediate family of Americans who are foreign nationals were allowed to travel back and forth. They were not legally prevented from doing so.
Flights continued between the two countries.
You know who did ban flights in and out of China on that exact same day? Italy.
COVID had almost certainly taken hold in Italy prior to the declaration.
No travel ban (or attempted ban) was effective. If you want to blame Italy’s situation on lack of a ban, then the entire EU would be suffering the same fate, and they aren’t.
The point is that the disease was global by Jan 31. No travel restrictions absent completely shutting the border was going to be effective. The rest of the EU is not affected to the same degree and many no more so than us.
Talking about scoring political points is exactly what Trump has been doing this whole time.
If it was containable, we clearly didn’t do it given our burden of disease here.
Like I said, you’d have to do a LOT more than what Trump did.
Thousands of Americans die every year from influenza. Are you blaming him for not shutting down the economy?
I said nothing of the sort. Are you blaming Obama for not shutting down the economy?
Hells bells man, 34,000 people died of Influenza last year and Trump did nothing, so he’s responsible for way worse, then isn’t he?
Not really. You’re saying Obama failed to do anything about 12000 flu deaths in 2009 but can’t seem to say the same about 34000 flu deaths in 2018.
Why don’t you care?
