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Lol, as a person who used to be active for a short time in Libertarian Party politics, I know that there are typically four kinds of libertarians.
Really? I'd like to see your evidence of that because no libertarian I know, including myself, would vote for an ultra conservative nut like Cruz.
1. Randian Objectivists who basically run the Libertarian Party. That is why they got really pissed at Bob Barr when he got the party nomination in 2008 as he is not an Objectivist.
2. Constitutionalists who are the vast majority in that party.
3. Anarchists who really dont get into party activity but think of themselves as Libertarian because the word has more respectability. They are regular no shows and thus largely in effect irrelevant.
4. Christian Libertarians who are most often also Constitutional Libertarians and are too disorganized to represent much of anything other than showing up for a meeting.
In the several county level meetings I showed up to in Maryland and Virginia, almost everyone there were Christian/Constitutionalists, while the leaders were all Randian Objectivists and the Anarchists are no shows, as always.
You sound like an anarchist, dude, lol.
I know that Ted Cruz would have been wildly popular at these meetings except among the leadership. Objectivists seem to have a maxim that if the party is becoming effective, then it isnt pure ideologically enough and then parrying things down. They want free coffee more than winning it seems
Again, show me your evidence that Cruz is their second choice. Otherwise, stop pulling shit out of your ass.
If you would educate yourself on the issues instead of demanding that everyone do your reading and thinking for you you wouldnt have to repeat yourself so much like a brain addled parrot, dude.
First of all, you made the claim. The onus is on you to provide the evidence, not me to go out and find it.
Second, a few examples of former Paul supporters backing Cruz is not evidence that sentiment is wide spread throughout the libertarian movement. Not everybody who supported Rand's presidential campaign was libertarian. There are also a lot of conservatives who falsely identify themselves as libertarians, like Glenn Beck, for example, which is an absolute joke. A true libertarian is not going to line up behind the most ultra conservative guy running for president. There are far too many differences between mainstream libertarianism and the philosophies of Ted Cruz. Many libertarians will now vote for Gary Johnson, which is what I will likely do and what I did in 2012, and many others will simply not vote. Some will roll over to the Republican candidate or possibly even Bernie Sanders if he is the nominee.
