Parliamentarian cuts minimum wage from stimulus due to obscure rule requiring poor citizens to needlessly suffer!

[DrLove]

WASHINGTON—Citing the long-standing practice of maintaining boundaries between the classes, Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough asked Democrats to cut a minimum wage increase from their stimulus package Friday due to an obscure rule requiring poor citizens to needlessly suffer.​

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“Raising the minimum wage would violate an 1834 statue put in place to inflict arbitrary pain on the nation’s most vulnerable groups,” said MacDonough, explaining that the rule was used as precedent to stop the 95th Congress from increasing the minimum wage to $2.50 in 1977.​

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“There’s only one interpretation of this rule as it clearly states that providing relief for impoverished Americans is not to be included in any budgetary legislation. These policies exist for a reason. Punishing the lower class is a non-partisan issue. There’s no need to be frustrated with either party—take up your gripes with the Andrew Jackson administration and the 23rd United States Congress.”​

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At press time, the stimulus package was in limbo while the Senate Parliamentarian determined if it was within the country’s purview to help the unemployed.​

Parliamentarian Cuts Minimum Wage From Stimulus Due To Obscure Rule Requiring Poor Citizens To Needlessly Suffer

WASHINGTON—Citing the long-standing practice of maintaining boundaries between the classes, Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough asked Democrats to cut a minimum wage increase from their stimulus package Friday due to an obscure rule requiring poor citizens to needlessly suffer. “Raising...

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[saveliberty]

Parliamentarians are not party affiliated. Here's a quote from Biden before the ruling, "The hike is "not going to occur because of the rules of the United States Senate."

Congressional Democrats opted to use the procedural maneuver known as budget reconciliation to pass the bill, allowing it to be approved by only a simple majority in the Senate. Most legislation requires 60 votes in the Senate to advance, so the budget reconciliation process allows Democrats — who hold a 50-seat majority — to pass the bill without any Republican votes.

There are strict rules for utilizing the budget reconciliation process, such as the "Byrd rule," which requires that all provisions in the bill be budget-related, and must not increase the federal deficit after a 10-year budget window. Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough ruled that the minimum wage hike did not fit the parameters for budget reconciliation.

Some Democrats had already expressed opposition to including a $15 minimum wage provision in the relief bill. Senator Joe Manchin told reporters this week that he believed a $15 minimum wage by 2025 was too high, and would be damaging for more rural states like his own West Virginia. - CBS News

Lefties tried to cheat and failed.

 

[Meathead]

Parliamentarians are not party affiliated. Here's a quote from Biden before the ruling, "The hike is "not going to occur because of the rules of the United States Senate."

Congressional Democrats opted to use the procedural maneuver known as budget reconciliation to pass the bill, allowing it to be approved by only a simple majority in the Senate. Most legislation requires 60 votes in the Senate to advance, so the budget reconciliation process allows Democrats — who hold a 50-seat majority — to pass the bill without any Republican votes.

There are strict rules for utilizing the budget reconciliation process, such as the "Byrd rule," which requires that all provisions in the bill be budget-related, and must not increase the federal deficit after a 10-year budget window. Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough ruled that the minimum wage hike did not fit the parameters for budget reconciliation.

Some Democrats had already expressed opposition to including a $15 minimum wage provision in the relief bill. Senator Joe Manchin told reporters this week that he believed a $15 minimum wage by 2025 was too high, and would be damaging for more rural states like his own West Virginia. - CBS News

Lefties tried to cheat and failed.

She did Biden a favor.

 

[WinterBorn]

There should be a new rule in the Senate for all legislation.

If it does not directly apply to the subject of the legislation it cannot be added or put in as a rider. Time to stop stuffing bills with pork.

 

[AFrench2]

There should be a new rule in the Senate for all legislation.

If it does not directly apply to the subject of the legislation it cannot be added or put in as a rider. Time to stop stuffing bills with pork.

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

 

[WinterBorn]

There should be a new rule in the Senate for all legislation.

If it does not directly apply to the subject of the legislation it cannot be added or put in as a rider. Time to stop stuffing bills with pork.

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

I would be giving no one a gift with this.

I am not saying the $15 minimum wage is good or bad. I am saying it should not be in a bill that has nothing to do with minimum wage.

Both parties are guilty of padding bills with crap that does not apply to the actual bill. That is why several presidents have wanted a line item veto.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It looks like Dr Love is a disappointed that he isn't getting a raise.

The beleaguered owners of small businesses targeted by the Democrat hate machine are getting a small reprieve from receiving the final death blow.

 

[saveliberty]

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

How is it not a gift to the American people?

 

[saveliberty]

Is it a requirement that liberal congressional members not own a business? I have rarely witnessed a group of people making such critical decisions for others with such limited understanding of the subject or the consequences of their actions.

 

[Oddball]

Is it a requirement that liberal congressional members not own a business? I have rarely witnessed a group of people making such critical decisions for others with such limited understanding of the subject or the consequences of their actions.

 

[saveliberty]

Feb 22, 2021 · Each year the United States Congress considers about 5,000 bills and resolutions, but of those only about 7% will become law. Congress works in two-year legislative sessions tied to the elections. The current session is called the 117 th Congress and it began on Jan 3, 2021. All bills not enacted by the end of the session on Jan 3, 2023 die ...

A bit more than ten Skippy.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Is it a requirement that liberal congressional members not own a business? I have rarely witnessed a group of people making such critical decisions for others with such limited understanding of the subject or the consequences of their actions.

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It took me at least ten minutes to read that.

For some reason, my eyes had a hard time staying on the text.

 

[WinterBorn]

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

How is it not a gift to the American people?

Congress is not about giving gifts. Or at least it shouldn't be.

Again, I said NOTHING about the relative merits of raising minimum wage. What I said was that it should not be added as a rider to another bill. Especially if that bill is providing needed relief. It means the rider does not get debated based on it's own merits. It gets passed because the actual bill is needed.

 

[AFrench2]

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

How is it not a gift to the American people?

Congress is not about giving gifts. Or at least it shouldn't be.

Again, I said NOTHING about the relative merits of raising minimum wage. What I said was that it should not be added as a rider to another bill. Especially if that bill is providing needed relief. It means the rider does not get debated based on it's own merits. It gets passed because the actual bill is needed.

Why do you hate the poor and downtrodden?

 

[WinterBorn]

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

How is it not a gift to the American people?

Congress is not about giving gifts. Or at least it shouldn't be.

Again, I said NOTHING about the relative merits of raising minimum wage. What I said was that it should not be added as a rider to another bill. Especially if that bill is providing needed relief. It means the rider does not get debated based on it's own merits. It gets passed because the actual bill is needed.

Why do you hate the poor and downtrodden?

LMAO!!

Please point out anything I said against the poor?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

How is it not a gift to the American people?

Congress is not about giving gifts. Or at least it shouldn't be.

Again, I said NOTHING about the relative merits of raising minimum wage. What I said was that it should not be added as a rider to another bill. Especially if that bill is providing needed relief. It means the rider does not get debated based on it's own merits. It gets passed because the actual bill is needed.

Why do you hate the poor and downtrodden?

Have you even read a word he said, child?

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

How is it not a gift to the American people?

Congress is not about giving gifts. Or at least it shouldn't be.

Again, I said NOTHING about the relative merits of raising minimum wage. What I said was that it should not be added as a rider to another bill. Especially if that bill is providing needed relief. It means the rider does not get debated based on it's own merits. It gets passed because the actual bill is needed.

Why do you hate the poor and downtrodden?

LMAO!!

Please point out anything I said against the poor?

I think he might just be fulfilling some requirements for his Junior year social justice warrior class.

You comments have been nothing but measured and rational, and you didn't even HINT at such.

 

[WinterBorn]

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

How is it not a gift to the American people?

Congress is not about giving gifts. Or at least it shouldn't be.

Again, I said NOTHING about the relative merits of raising minimum wage. What I said was that it should not be added as a rider to another bill. Especially if that bill is providing needed relief. It means the rider does not get debated based on it's own merits. It gets passed because the actual bill is needed.

Why do you hate the poor and downtrodden?

Have you even read a word he said, child?

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

How is it not a gift to the American people?

Congress is not about giving gifts. Or at least it shouldn't be.

Again, I said NOTHING about the relative merits of raising minimum wage. What I said was that it should not be added as a rider to another bill. Especially if that bill is providing needed relief. It means the rider does not get debated based on it's own merits. It gets passed because the actual bill is needed.

Why do you hate the poor and downtrodden?

LMAO!!

Please point out anything I said against the poor?

I think he might just be fulfilling some requirements for his Junior year social justice warrior class.

You comments have been nothing but measured and rational, and you didn't even HINT at such.

Thank you.

Of course, any time I see "why do you hate ________?" I know it is just cliche liberalism.

 

[Utilitarian]

WASHINGTON—Citing the long-standing practice of maintaining boundaries between the classes, Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough asked Democrats to cut a minimum wage increase from their stimulus package Friday due to an obscure rule requiring poor citizens to needlessly suffer.​

​

“Raising the minimum wage would violate an 1834 statue put in place to inflict arbitrary pain on the nation’s most vulnerable groups,” said MacDonough, explaining that the rule was used as precedent to stop the 95th Congress from increasing the minimum wage to $2.50 in 1977.​

​

“There’s only one interpretation of this rule as it clearly states that providing relief for impoverished Americans is not to be included in any budgetary legislation. These policies exist for a reason. Punishing the lower class is a non-partisan issue. There’s no need to be frustrated with either party—take up your gripes with the Andrew Jackson administration and the 23rd United States Congress.”​

​

At press time, the stimulus package was in limbo while the Senate Parliamentarian determined if it was within the country’s purview to help the unemployed.​

Parliamentarian Cuts Minimum Wage From Stimulus Due To Obscure Rule Requiring Poor Citizens To Needlessly Suffer

WASHINGTON—Citing the long-standing practice of maintaining boundaries between the classes, Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough asked Democrats to cut a minimum wage increase from their stimulus package Friday due to an obscure rule requiring poor citizens to needlessly suffer. “Raising...

politics.theonion.com

The Onion is typical of a lot of left-leaning humor. The writers really don't have a clue about economics.

A minimum wage naturally occurs in the market when you don't have illegal labor available. Most Americans won't work below a certain wage. If illegals are available, they will work for lower because of a different frame of reference.

If you have a situation where illegals are available AND you have a government-mandated minimum wage raise, then that actually makes it more likely for 2 things to occur:

1) the hiring of more illegals for low skill work
2) an increased rate of automation in low skill work

So, what actually causes the poor to suffer is twofold:

1) not having effective border control to keep out illegals
2) making it less attractive to hire low skill citizen labor

 

[Utilitarian]

Is it a requirement that liberal congressional members not own a business? I have rarely witnessed a group of people making such critical decisions for others with such limited understanding of the subject or the consequences of their actions.

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I love the "Hayek" memes. lol

 

[jknowgood]

You would be giving the Republican party a major gift with this.

How is it not a gift to the American people?

Congress is not about giving gifts. Or at least it shouldn't be.

Again, I said NOTHING about the relative merits of raising minimum wage. What I said was that it should not be added as a rider to another bill. Especially if that bill is providing needed relief. It means the rider does not get debated based on it's own merits. It gets passed because the actual bill is needed.

Why do you hate the poor and downtrodden?

You do realize a $15.00 minimum wage will put those people in a higher tax bracket? Which will cost them more in taxes? They will lose their tax credits and will start paying taxes at the end of the year.