OK.....Lets keep the Confederate Statues

[rightwinger]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

 

[miketx]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Love it!

 

[Siete]

random statues .. meh

removing historical monuments depicting people/events that have meaning to the country and remind future generations who we once were ? HELL NO !

PC/POLITICAL OPINIONS BE DAMNED ... deal with it.

 

[Tank]

You can tear them all down, if it will get the blacks to behave better

 

[Doc1]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Go build them yourself, raise the money, hire the artists and get them out there. You don't get to erase history that you find repugnant.

 

[rightwinger]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Go build them yourself, raise the money, hire the artists and get them out there. You don't get to erase history that you find repugnant.

Nobody is erasing history

But you do not honor history that is repugnant. If we have statues about the confederacy, lets tell the WHOLE story

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

If it helps people feel better, why not? Wouldn't images of celebrations on June 19, 1865 make a bigger impact? Less depressing? Symbols of victory?

 

[Valerie]

Go build them yourself, raise the money, hire the artists and get them out there. You don't get to erase history that you find repugnant.

Most counties in Mississippi have Confederate monuments outside or near their courthouses. In Brooksville in Noxubee County, a Confederate soldier stands along the railroad tracks that separate the white part of town from the black, almost as if to guard against integration.

Opinion | We should treat Confederate monuments the way Moscow and Budapest have treated communist statues

I’ve since reported numerous stories about injustices in the South, many of which involved racial bias, and in nearly every instance, the criminal-justice system that adjudicated those cases did so in courtrooms or police departments or district attorney’s offices or city halls that stand in the shadow of taxpayer-funded monuments celebrating the fight to keep black people as slaves.

[Confederate or not, which monuments should stay or go? We asked, you answered.]


Perhaps we’re too accustomed to it to notice the absurdity, but it is unquestionably absurd: Each day, thousands of black, shackled defendants appear before judges in courthouses guarded by memorials to a cause that believed those defendants’ ancestors were little more than livestock. The symbolism is inescapable. If a totalitarian country were to try members of an oppressed minority in a courtroom flanked by monuments to those who did the oppressing, we’d rightly call them show trials. Yet we’ve been doing exactly this in wide swaths of the South for more than a century.


Supporters of keeping Confederate monuments in place argue that they’re not about celebrating slavery or oppression, but about acknowledging heritage and the past. They argue that to remove the monuments is an attempt to rewrite history. But that isn’t quite right. No one is suggesting we remove the Confederate army from the history of Bull Run or Gettysburg. The objection is to the monuments and memorials that celebrate or glorify the Confederacy, or that explicitly honor those most known for fighting to keep black people from obtaining the legal rights of citizens.

The Battle of Liberty Place monument that was recently removed from New Orleans amid much controversy is a good example. This was literally a monument to a bloody Reconstruction-era rebellion against the state government staged by a white supremacist group. It wasn’t erected after the Civil War, but in 1891, as Reconstruction ended and Louisiana was actively oppressing, terrorizing and disenfranchising black people. The city added a plaque celebrating white supremacy in 1932, nearly 70 years after the Civil War and nearly 60 years after the battle itself.

In fact, the “history and heritage” argument is a hard sell for a lot of the Confederate monuments and memorials.

 

[Valerie]

USA Today reported in May that in North Carolina alone, 35 Confederate monuments have been built since the year 2000. It’s hard to argue that those monuments are about history and heritage.

The paper also points out that Kentucky is saturated with Confederate memorials — far more than, say, Union memorials — even though Kentuckians fought for the Union by a 2-1 margin.

A recent Phoenix New Times report found that half of the six Confederate memorials in Arizona were built in 1999 or later, the most recent in 2010. The oldest of the six was erected nearly 80 years after the Civil War, during which Arizona wasn’t yet a state.




^ modern day small government 'conservatives' spend public funds on confederate monuments WHY?

 

[miketx]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Go build them yourself, raise the money, hire the artists and get them out there. You don't get to erase history that you find repugnant.

Nobody is erasing history

But you do not honor history that is repugnant. If we have statues about the confederacy, lets tell the WHOLE story

Once you have destroyed Confederate history, what will you want to destroy next.

 

[Valerie]

poor southern lily white snowflakes are SO ascared their treasured traitorous history will be DESTROYED.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Go build them yourself, raise the money, hire the artists and get them out there. You don't get to erase history that you find repugnant.

Nobody is erasing history

But you do not honor history that is repugnant. If we have statues about the confederacy, lets tell the WHOLE story

We already know the whole story... good grief.

 

[sartre play]

Think about it for awhile, history good or bad is part of who we have been & who we are now. keep the statues, they are both history &art.

 

[Doc1]

Go build them yourself, raise the money, hire the artists and get them out there. You don't get to erase history that you find repugnant.

Most counties in Mississippi have Confederate monuments outside or near their courthouses. In Brooksville in Noxubee County, a Confederate soldier stands along the railroad tracks that separate the white part of town from the black, almost as if to guard against integration.

Opinion | We should treat Confederate monuments the way Moscow and Budapest have treated communist statues

I’ve since reported numerous stories about injustices in the South, many of which involved racial bias, and in nearly every instance, the criminal-justice system that adjudicated those cases did so in courtrooms or police departments or district attorney’s offices or city halls that stand in the shadow of taxpayer-funded monuments celebrating the fight to keep black people as slaves.

[Confederate or not, which monuments should stay or go? We asked, you answered.]


Perhaps we’re too accustomed to it to notice the absurdity, but it is unquestionably absurd: Each day, thousands of black, shackled defendants appear before judges in courthouses guarded by memorials to a cause that believed those defendants’ ancestors were little more than livestock. The symbolism is inescapable. If a totalitarian country were to try members of an oppressed minority in a courtroom flanked by monuments to those who did the oppressing, we’d rightly call them show trials. Yet we’ve been doing exactly this in wide swaths of the South for more than a century.


Supporters of keeping Confederate monuments in place argue that they’re not about celebrating slavery or oppression, but about acknowledging heritage and the past. They argue that to remove the monuments is an attempt to rewrite history. But that isn’t quite right. No one is suggesting we remove the Confederate army from the history of Bull Run or Gettysburg. The objection is to the monuments and memorials that celebrate or glorify the Confederacy, or that explicitly honor those most known for fighting to keep black people from obtaining the legal rights of citizens.

The Battle of Liberty Place monument that was recently removed from New Orleans amid much controversy is a good example. This was literally a monument to a bloody Reconstruction-era rebellion against the state government staged by a white supremacist group. It wasn’t erected after the Civil War, but in 1891, as Reconstruction ended and Louisiana was actively oppressing, terrorizing and disenfranchising black people. The city added a plaque celebrating white supremacy in 1932, nearly 70 years after the Civil War and nearly 60 years after the battle itself.

In fact, the “history and heritage” argument is a hard sell for a lot of the Confederate monuments and memorials.

Only to the totalitarian intent on shutting down everything they don't like.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Stupid fucking Mitch Mitch Landrieu can't even manage pumping stations, but he can remove statues and crime continues to rise.

 

[Doc1]

poor southern lily white snowflakes are SO ascared their treasured traitorous history will be DESTROYED.

Nobody is afraid of anything, we're just standing against the tyranny of the snowflakes.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

poor southern lily white snowflakes are SO ascared their treasured traitorous history will be DESTROYED.

Nobody is afraid of anything, we're just standing against the tyranny of the snowflakes.

He probably actually thinks that we are all decedents old southern slave-owners...

 

[Valerie]

poor southern lily white snowflakes are SO ascared their treasured traitorous history will be DESTROYED.

Nobody is afraid of anything, we're just standing against the tyranny of the snowflakes.

uh huh.. you keep tell yourself that, s0n.

The 82nd Airborne Division fought several campaigns against Nazi Germany during World War II. So after a man in a hat bearing the elite Army paratrooper unit’s insignia was pictured throwing a Ku Klux Klan salute (which resembles and is sometimes mistaken for a Nazi salute) during the weekend’s Charlottesville protests, the division delivered a pointed message.


The elite paratrooper unit continues to battle fascism -- but now on American soil.



White Supremacist In Charlottesville Wearing 82nd Airborne Hat Gets Called Out... By 82nd Airborne

 

[WaitingFor2020]

But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context

Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck

Love it!

That's what Donald Trump Jr. said when he got the email about the Russian who had dirt on Hillary.

 

[miketx]

^ Val, all that proves is regressive liberal antifa were once in that group.